GCHQ is having problems meeting Osborne's 2020 recruitment target Blighty's surveillance and security agency GCHQ is facing significant challenges in meeting the government's targets for recruitment over the next four years. Last year the chancellor promised that 1,900 new recruits would be hired by the intelligence agencies by 2020 – with the lion's share expected to head to GCHQ in …
"Specific pay and reward details cannot be disclosed for national security reasons,"
That's a brilliant way of handling things. Just smother any unpleasant facts with the blanket of "national security". No-one will notice.
Could it be that they have something to hide?
Like crap pay and prospects.
PR?
They might know how to spell it, but don't ask, it's probably a secret.
"Specific pay and reward details cannot be disclosed for national security reasons,"That's a brilliant way of handling things.
Especially when you consider that specific pay and reward details are on their website...
The vacancies I've looked at before don't exactly fill me with the deire to apply.
Vic.
Twice applied and twice turned down. They are getting on average 35 applicants a day. Their HR dept is overwhelmed that they have had to recruit temps in. The doughnut according to a senior manager there is full to capacity. They have opened a new site in Manchester which just seems to be filled with hackers and script kiddies. They only seem interested in graduates who they can pay £25k to programme.
Knowing that they only stay on to gain experience then jump ship and get paid x4 the amount at somewhere like Google, Microsoft et al. Even though you can't put it in so many words on your CV that you have worked there.
To take someone on at GCHQ costs about £10K including all the clearances.
Oh and then there is the drugs test they conduct which usually consists of a 'hair sample' (not pubic) which also means they have a sample of your DNA on file.
Oh and then there is the drugs test they conduct which usually consists of a 'hair sample' (not pubic) which also means they have a sample of your DNA on file.
Not necessarily, a straight hair cutting is dodgy for accurate DNA profiling even with modern techniques, although it will reveal a history of drug use. Moral - go hairless :-)
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Howdy, energystar,
Crack Coders and Script Genii are more than just an opportunity and solution for sub-prime Key Intelligence Community Supply Chains ….. Spooky Intellectually Challenged Dark Web Networks, which may or may not be GCHQ type systems default ……. and that is a global vulnerability available for exploit and expansion and monetisation and export?
Yes, such sure is.
ha, maybe the government should re-evaluate pay.... , there are people that have the skills GCHQ needs but these people also know their value which is something the government fails to address . Around this time last year i remember looking at the careers page for one of the Intel agencies in London , they were looking for essentially a pretty senior pen-tester/red team member. The salary offered was in the range of 35K which is absolutely crap. Someone with the skillet they wanted could easily get 60K in the private sector so why on earth would they ever go to work for the government?
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Philby was on the fringes of the British upper classes. Despite which and despite working for SIS, he preferred to be a double agent for the USSR, and was especially proud that he had spied on the Americans for the USSR but also passed on the information to SIS.
I think that says quite a lot about the British establishment, and the events of the last week show that when it comes to "love of country" the Establishment still knows all about it, and where its country can stick it.
I recall Jacob Appelbaum describing the attempt of GCHQ to recruit him. He mentioned (paraphrasing) that they view themselves as the deciders, but they also mentioned that he shouldn't worry because all their hires are cleared through NSA (Jacobs an American).
I can't find it quickly again (long videos). It was in either this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNsePZj_Yks
Or this one (a must watch*):
http://boingboing.net/2013/12/31/jacob-appelbaums-must-watch.html
But that is an issue, because its in the interests of the NSA to spy on its friends and ensure they stay on USA message. GCHQ's duty is to protect UK from such surveillance. So there's a conflict of interests there. And it would mean NSA would get to reject people who might view their surveillance activities as detrimental to the UK.
So is that the case, does NSA vet GCHQ hires? Because that's an issue of UK security!
* Note (off this topic) the 15 years part at 18:44 in this video, this is a video from 2013, 15 years is 1998. This surveillance began before 911 before the Patriot act, they were drag netting content and metadata.
It was the late 90s when it was reaffirmed that the NSA could only monitor offshore, so they and GCHQ came up with the deal to spy for each other.
However Echelon was well established anyway and the Five Eyes had been working together since the war and sharing most things.
"GCHQ is having problems meeting recruitment targets because no one wants to work for a third rate bunch of crypto fascists."
FTFY
GCHQ can't offer the best money or best opportunities out of the intelligence agencies, let alone private sector.
A US based "get out of jail free" card is probably of more use than a UK one.
One presumes also that a highly competent engineer with a deep love of their country would be better off serving the intelligence agencies whilst working at Slurpygooglebook.
the kind of person who has the desired talent/skills is already aware that they can make a much better living as one of the very people the TLAs would like them to track down.
Or perhaps they're smart enough to know that they'll get easier access to the kind of info/intel that will make them rich while they play-act being underappreciated/underpaid TLA drones.
Wheels within wheels within wheels, perhaps?
Doing it won't make you rich -not even financially 'stable'-. Neither build you 'a career'. Here you'll find the same b&$#&*%& you'll find everywhere. And the 'serviceable' 'fast-trackers' also [the most dangerous kind of Service Men]. And the 'self-serving' also.
But at no other job you'll have a better chance to do the right thing, for the right reason. And no, nobody will force you to do the wrong thing -I assure you-. And yes, I have a my tin foil hat well placed, also.
And no, I you don't come and help, nobody will.
You can throw me the rocks now.
And GCHQ still have an abiding elephant in the room problem which guarantees they will always be chasing and searching for star quality talent rather than showcasing and reaping the benefits from its engagement ..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Gareth_Williams
But at no other job you'll have a better chance to do the right thing, for the right reason. And no, nobody will force you to do the wrong thing -I assure you-. And yes, I have a my tin foil hat well placed, also. .... energystar
Doing the right thing is always risky, energystar, whenever so many are wedded to the wrong things.
And the farcical pantomimes and dark webbed tragic comedies of errors and missteps continue .... ad infinitum/nauseam ....... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/09/spies-set-to-start-vetting-chilcot-inquiry-report-next-prompting/
* Clouds Hosting Advanced Operating Systems
You do realise that somebody/something makes all of this up, and Multi Functional Media and ICT trail and trial it for mass consumption and perception management. IT's a Great IntelAIgents Game and although Essentially in the Same Format as the Old Phormer Great Game, Fundamentally Entirely Different and Better with AI Betas in Virtual Machine Command and Control of Systems and SCADA Executive Office Administrations.
Welcome ..... to Virtually Real Worlds with Open Source Marketing Spaces for Controlling Places.
Some years ago. A new generation of US diplomatics at the Vatican... Scandalized about the generalized lack of digital 'assistants'. Work to do. The classic way. Oh God! [No THAT God inside Saint Peter, of course].
No need to be an insider, to perceive intention.
And no, it's not Matrix [Is this just youth, or plain arrogance?]. You know people feel and hates this ambiance.
Perception Management... What are you teaching at those 'elite' centers?
Hi, Omar,
You might like this ....... https://youtu.be/J5pFf27OtPM
There's a lot going on out there here and in cyberspaces, which are virtually real places and haunting and daunting command and control centres which do not suffer fools' ways and means and crazy memes ....... and to battle to oppose and/or depose the very best of them is to tilt at windmills and prove yourself mad as a hatter and totally unfit for Future Greater IntelAIgent Games purpose.
I had an interview there years ago, years of pay freeze and rubbish pension.
HR were like scared rabbits and the electric wheelchairs they had sat in a corner with dead batteries and flat tyres, they had been like that for God knows how long. I reported it and was ignored.
Then all the internal politics and racism...
GCHQ hits back after claims it won’t meet recruitment targets
Mon, 11 Apr 2016
Intelligence agency Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) has refuted claims it is having difficulty hitting its target of 1,900 new recruits by 2020.
News website The Register, quoting independent sources close to GCHQ, [Mrs Goggins?] reported the intelligence agency is struggling to land the best candidates for roles, with one source claiming they simply didn't know where new talent was going to come from.
But a GCHQ spokesperson said in a statement the agency has a “very healthy” recruitment pipeline, with a “large number” of talented applicants for available vacancies.
However, the spokesperson added the agency was not resting on its laurels and did acknowledge that the graduate jobs market is becoming increasingly competitive.
GCHQ attributes this to the private sector’s ability to offer higher pay, and a lack of available talent in some specialist fields.
In order to tackle this problem, the spokesperson said GCHQ is working with universities and training providers to ensure recruits are equipped to work at the agency.
GCHQ is also increasing pre-graduate recruitment, via its higher apprenticeship schemes, undergraduate placements and internships.
allegedly, according to
http://www.recruiter.co.uk/news/2016/04/gchq-hits-back-after-claims-it-wont-meet-recruitment-targets/
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