Posts by Lonpfrb

UK Ministry of Defence is spending less with US biz, and more with Europeans

Re: Logistics is the real killswitch

Grippen is flexible so ITAR restriction on GE engines can be solved with Eurofighter Typhoon EJ200 engines. Uprated EJ200 is also possible given how technology moves on..

Re: As it should be

US trade with the terrorist state at 0.5 bn is a rounding error compared to trade with Europe 260 bn.

However the optics are grotesque to tariff your former Allies but not your former enemy..

UK to buy nuclear-capable F-35As that can't be refueled from RAF tankers

Zero chance of CASD Dreadnought class SSBN cancellation as its in the core of Strategic Defence Review 2025.

Re: US has it's finger on the Kill Switch.

The kill switch is a myth. Reality is spare parts, software releases and mission data are required daily to operate F35 and LM knows that their FMS pipeline depends on reliable supply.

Please pay less attention to conspiracy theories and FSB talking points, designed to undermine NATO defence.

The principal audience is vladolf putler and we don't expect him to last long, given the Oligarchs discontent with RF economic collapse.

$650 Bn down for less of Ukraine than they occupied 3 years ago.

Royal Navy has operational independent control of SSBN launched Trident D5 ICBM. For cist reasons the D5 maintenance is shared with USN however control is not impacted due to the stocks held for that reason. USN agrees that RN should be independent since its US national interest to complicate the aggressors decisions. Ditto La France and MN nuclear weapons.

It's nothing more than an FSB talking point that UK isn't independent. They wish...

UK bans game controller exports to Russia in bid to ground drone attacks

That was done before 2022 invasion and the orcs were left to fail to maintain soon after.

Thus the Strategic brilliance of AFU to destroy hydrocarbon infrastructure knowing that both parts and skilled installers are not available to fix them.

No fuel means no trucks or tanks. Donkeys and golf carts now..

Re: Bit bloody late

Unfortunately the Chernobyl radiation was evident as far north as Northern Finland that has 6% GDP from timber industry so radioactivity alone is not sufficient for sanction enforcement.

It seems that the hydrocarbon revenue of the terrorist state is a major contribution to funding their illegal invasion of Ukraine, so the economic crisis caused by tariff uncertainty has depressed the Urals Crude price below $50/bl in effect a sanction.

The main sanction evasion enablers india and CCP are dependent on trade with the free world so the most urgent for secondary Sanctions and effective enforcement.

EU may target US tech giants in tariff response

Re: Hmm

“The model they used is based on the concept that the trade deficit that we have with any given country is the sum of all the unfair trade practices, the sum of all cheating.”

A profound delusion of the Tangerine Toddler that the balance of demand (surplus/deficit) has something to do with corruption.

Every allegation is a confession. He's confessing that he would exploit customers whenever possible. Despicable as ever..

So far he's flip flopped on tariffs when challenged thus adding inconsistency to his feature set. Obviously the market reaction has been even worse than tariffs alone. $5 Tn is of federal deficit proportions,so maybe that's the point..

Celonis slaps SAP with lawsuit claiming it's gatekeeping customer data

Re: "28,000 different variations for the process of running a sales order"

The GSK SAP CERP Programme was finished long ago so your speculation is unfounded.

It's not surprising that if you conflate the number of process variants with data variance that you get a large number of Permutations.

That doesn't by itself prove that process is not being followed rather that data variance is large in a global enterprise system.

SAP legacy ERP customers still in no rush to adopt latest platform

Modernisation a customer demand.

Customers all have cost pressure to varying degrees so bear down on all suppliers to do more for less. The SAP maintenance fees are no exception.

So what drives that cost and can be controlled or influenced by sap?

Good design already reduced the difference between the mainstream databases or operating system however they still need testing to assure quality.

Test Automation enables productivity and lowers QA costs, but there's still no getting away from thorough testing. So reducing the number of database products and versions is a powerful way of reducing the test effort so maintenance costs for customers.

Reducing operating systems down to Posix would be a similar cost lever.

So ECC 6.o to S/4HANA is motivated by avoiding the maintenance cost of hundreds of database/operating system permutations as well as being a modernisation opportunity for in memory database.

Realistically customers will have been running upgrade projects on ECC and associated products over the years, with full scope testing efforts. Whilst S/4HANA is not an upgrade to ECC, the transition can be a similar effort to Upgrade, with the opportunity for Simplification for those focused on running better.

Bottom line is that Customers have demanded this, not SAP, because modernisation is in their benefit.

Taiwan reportedly claims China-linked ship damaged one of its submarine cables

Re: Only a matter of time

While no state of war exists between two countries, neither military nor civilian infrastructure is a legitimate target. The point of hybrid conflict is to intimidate and erode political will to act against the aggressors. Plausible deniability is intended to evade responsibility as 'we didn't know the cable was there and our anchor could damage it '...

#FONOPS #vpdfo #StrongerTogether

FAFO

"nonstop surveillance of ships is difficult to achieve."

No, AIS transponders show where the vessels are, and it is the job of Coastguards and Navys to patrol territorial waters and Areas of Economic Interest so the critical infrastructure is protected from unsafe navigation. Vessels with AIS off, an immediate red flag.

Where vessels cause damage and don't have insurance to cover that loss, it's reasonable to impound them and sell cargo and vessel to cover the loss, just as Finland will do.

Grey zone conflict is not acceptable so must be policed and prosecuted.

Swedish authorities probe Oracle Cerner health record rollout

Re: A cursed project

The world is full of people trying to achieve the same tasks and for reasons of pride, ignorance and ego want to pretend that their way is superior, special, clearly the best. A classic human behavior problem. There's good reason why accounting has a Globally Accepted Accounting Proceedure (GAAP) so that shareholders, audit and regulatory can compare every company consistently. One size must fit all, and it does.

The same is true of logistics, HR and supply chain processes that include many standard best practice variants. Pretending that they should be different is the classic recipe for cost, time and risk overrun.

Choose from the menu, don't tell the Chef how to cook.

SAP legacy ERP users wise to ignore offer of single leap to the cloud

Fear of Change

Moving from ECC 6.0 to S/4HANA is a Migration not an Upgrade and the Big opportunity for simplification and Fit To Standard, the best practice approach to package implementation.

The Clean Core and Side by Side enhancement keeps the lower cost promise of package implementation and the Platform as a Service for justified enhancements. No longer mixed together like ECC.

The move from on premise hardware to an outsourced data centre is small change since virtualisation enables lift and shift when you need to do that, every 4-6 years. Obviously outsourcing will be a new supplier relationship so that's where RISE simplifies that change to SAP as the single point of contact.

Doing both at once enables the reuse of SAP reference architecture and proven Application Lifecycle Management tools, so lowers risk and cost.

Multiple steps are more cost, more change, and more risk. The hard part is always the Business Transformation and people becoming comfortable with the rationale and process for change. Get good help and do it right first time for the right reasons..

Europe's largest local authority settles on ERP budget 5x original estimate

Re: Oracle ??? Why would you ???

The most obvious option was to migrate from their customised SAP ECC 6.0 ERP to the SAP S/4HANA Private Cloud edition which SAP enable with migration tools and simplification items where product improvement may be sufficient to retire the custom for standard.. That provides smart organisations the opportunity to fit to standard and minimise custom costs.

Given that the SAP ECC 6.0 ERP implementation was governed to minimise custom and ensure that was upgrade safe, they actually started from a good situation. The Integration was also high quality which matters because that can easily be more than 59% of the implementation cost, so again a good starting point.

The ability to negotiate a reasonable SAP S/4HANA Private Cloud edition cost may have been beyond BCC but not implementation partners so again an opportunity apparently missed...

Inexorable march of progress at SAP threatens to leave users behind

Re: That's enough

The rationale of implementing package software applications because you're not in the software development business includes many levers for businesses decisions on the scope of processes and quality of service.

However the inexorable cost pressure means that having decided what to do, the business must accept that how to do it at the cost they are willing to pay is constrained and no longer their decision. If they want free choice away from the reference architecture of their chosen solution there is additional cost. Sooner or later their choices will limit what is affordable and as SAP ECC showed, it's possible to make upgrades and innovation impossible.

Staying on the clean core and deciding only for significant benefits of local innovation requires insight and discipline which some customers will fail to do for their own reasons.

When management Capitalises their project costs they are unwilling to see local developments as a liability rather imagine them an asset. Finance is not the full picture though CFOs like to claim R&D costs back from the tax man. A whole life cycle approach is required to make good decisions.

ERP modernization? Admins have heard of it

Re: Just look at Birmingham

The insolvency of BCC is primarily due to its liability for equal pay breaches.

I'm not suggesting that going from SAP ECC to Oracle Fusion has gone well rather that its not the main financial problem.

SAP support auto-renewal gotcha: Do nothing now, pay for another year

RISE is Not lift and shift.

"RISE with SAP, the German software giant's lift-shift-and-transform approach of getting customers from on-prem legacy systems to its latest cloud-based ERP system."

Correction : RISE is not lift and shift, rather an opportunity to reduce cost of ownership using the Fit to Standard approach. Migration.

If you really think lift and shift is for you that's the hyperscaler cloud route taking your customised ECC to the cloud for savings over the legacy data centre hosting. Short term savings on infrastructure but no progress on the application software. Definitely not the 'latest cloud-based ERP system ' S/4HANA.

GitHub rolls back database change after breaking itself

Scalable Cloud, but...

So m$ wants to convince customers that their cloud is scalable and demand flexible yet they are too cheap to provision a preproduction instance for final change deployment and validation before going to production.

Leadership is do as I do, not just do as I say..

If you don't live best practice, don't expect to be taken seriously in enterprise IT...

German 5G network ban said to loom for Huawei and ZTE

Re: key parts of critical infrastructure might become dependent on foreign technology

MAGA now dominate the Republican Party and Project 2025 sets out their route to a fascist dictatorship led by #45, only if Americans haven't been paying attention so vote him in..

Re: key parts of critical infrastructure might become dependent on foreign technology

The answer is Nordic tech from Ericsson and Nokia, the number 2 and 3 in network equipment manufacturing in the world.

So whilst european, still “foreign”.

No. Shared values:

- Intellectual property

- Fair trade

- Democracy

- Rule of law

- Human rights

Unlike chinese companies that are controlled by the PRC.

The cost of buying chinese is not just money but putting our values at risk. Supporting the PRC to dominate the world through the 'Belt and Road' initiative makes no sense and makes for global suffering.

Only an ignorant fool would buy chinese. It's the only vote you have with PRC...

Asda IT staff shuffled off to TCS amid messy tech divorce from Walmart

Re: TAX the companies that outsourcing abroad

Strategically illiterate decision making looks only at the apparent short term cost advantage of lower unit cost and never at sovereign capabilities nor dependence on transactional entities who do not share our values.

Thus insightful government is forced to play the security card to stop the morons who only chase the quick buck with no concern for the national interest.

Alternatively a government populated by non STEM graduates doesn't care but wonders why productivity is low and the balance of payments is shot.

Still could be worse: TUPE to HCLT..

More than a Joule required to power up enthusiasm for SAP's AI strategy

Re: "pulling the sheets off of AI features"

Configuration of a flexible application for the use cases of business value for customers does not change much from new use cases enabled by machine learning. For example, partner products have been learning about vendor invoices and populating SAP for decades, requiring a stable API to do so.

Many customers don't want to invest in process and functionality Configuration specialists, preferring a project and responsible vendor to take that on. Scope, cost and time being what purchasing people are comfortable to manage.

So AI can enable functions and features that don't get done by the standard application but are not required to make standard work.

Because much of AI is new, the proof points are needed yet competitive advantage suggests should not be given away as though they are worthless..

Will that mean less temporary help is needed?

I doubt that.

SAP customers may struggle to escape ECC before support shutters if they don't start now

Re: Excuse me, but

The evidence is that migration on a well supported and structured path between two products from one vendor is completely different to reimplementation on another product from another vendor.

A few major vendors have invested in tools to migrate from their main competitors in an effort to close the gap. However still not a trivial exercise.

Never underestimate the importance and difficulty of integration in enterprise solutions, typically 40% of effort when done well, otherwise more.

In summary 'easily migrate', not likely.

Re: Excuse me, but

Such enterprises have decided that their business is not enterprise software applications life cycle management so that a specialist will be more effective to do it. That out sourcing has consequences so that cost of ownership is a business concern.

What SAP says is that your business has cost benefit levers and can choose where to put them. For decades customers were allowed to fall behind the fully supported software however the pace of change demanded by customers and the costs they accept no longer allow a tail of hundreds of supported language, jurisdiction and product permutations.

This is an application life cycle management challenge that any significant vendor must manage on behalf of all customers but its inevitable that some can't be educated and enabled to take timely action. That's just human behaviour...

Only had ten years to move...

The SAP Movement opportunity has been available for a long time, with ever improving tools to enable customer success.

The move from on premise to cloud infrastructure has been the low hanging fruit to move from capital expenditure on premises to operational expenditure in the cloud. However this just provides financial benefit as ECC remains. The infra move to cloud can deliver an opportunity to start with HANA, so ditch database licence costs and do some limited code improvement. But the bigger benefits are in S/4.

To get a transformation to S/4HANA requires migration of your distinctive enhancements or a fit to standard approach to deal with long term cost of ownership challenges.

The UX improvement opportunity can be started on ECC Fiori but that transformation is not complete so still requires Enterprise Portal to bring it all together.

S/4 provides Fiori UX (UI5) as the foundation and the ability to keep the core clean while side by side extension on Business Technology Platform (BTP) integrates with a single design language.

S/4HANA private cloud edition (PCE) provides both infra and application cloud platform benefits with the ability to integrate SAP and 3rd party services in a scalable hybrid architecture. Key for reluctant DSAG users is the ability to use familiar ABAP extensions (RAP) or modernise to supported languages or bring your own language (CAP).. Test automation and CI/CD help to keep cost of ownership under control within the Cloud ALM framework.

Extended support may buy a little time to smooth the human resource limitations but well supported applications are a real business requirement and the innovation by SAP the competitive advantage icing on the cake. If you snooze, you loose..

Cops developing Ghostbusters-esque weapon to take out e-bike thugs

Re: (Because reasons)

With the widespread introduction of 20 mph zones in metropolitan areas, there is a good case for raising the arbitrary 15 mph e-bike limit to 20 mph so that impatient car drivers don't attempt unsafe overtakes in the 20 mph zone. Everyone moving at the same speed is likely to be safer, so support the Active Travel objectives.

Safety first.

UK PM promises faster justice for Post Office Horizon victims

Re: Hot air

His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary and Fire & Rescue Services

HMICFRS independently assesses the effectiveness and efficiency of police forces and fire & rescue services – in the public interest.

GPS leading your phone astray? We can just fix that in code, startup claims

Re: And I need this why?

WAAS may be adequate for general use (free) and Differential for survey grade 1cm accuracy at the cost of specific equipment ££. The RTK equipment sits between those as a 10cm accuracy at more modest cost. So very suitable for vehicle guidance e.g. Combine Harvesters or Tractors.

This innovation has potential for RTK level results with only software rather than RTK equipment. Effectively the other handsets are that equipment.

What would be given to enable that and is it clearly described in the privacy agreement?

RTK GNSS has no need for network and data sharing on the internet.

SAP customers on brink of ERPocalypse as 2025 support cliff looms for ECC

Re: “ …they just want to sell their products and services."

CAPEX to OPEX is a significant prize along with the opportunity to Simplify. So there are business reasons to change. The long term cost of ownership and technical debt will vary but are often significant.

City council Oracle megaproject got a code red – and they went live anyway

SAP Upgrade

"no easy migration path from one SAP release to the next" is generally an untrue allegation. Rather huge effort has been put into the upgrade path for customers.

HR line of business will have mandated legal change upgrades so finance is required to align which means no case for delay to upgrades. Configuration will be fine, but custom code will depend on the continued use of sap enhancement concepts to be upgrade safe, as we built it, and not creating technical debt through poor practices.

However SAP has been very clear that ECC 6 is EOL 2027 and S/4 Hana is the strategic direction but not a succession product with an automated upgrade path. The BCC decision to Fit to Standard is perfect for S/4 green field implementation.

New infrastructure is required for S/4 but by now the infra would be worn out despite several hardware refresh actions e.g: 20 years / 5 years depreciation cycle.

Whichever ERP is chosen the implementation partners experience and understanding is key to enable making good (low TCO) decisions. The leadership and discipline to Fit to Standard is not easy, and that failure is how to over run by 4 times.

SAP ECC 6

SAP ECC 6 on NW 7.5 EOL 2027 so that's not a technical blocker. Intention to Fit to Standard is aligned with S/4 Green field implementation so no worse in general to a Oracle green field implementation.

So another reason does appear likely...

The home Wi-Fi upgrade we never asked for is coming. The one we need is not

Slingbox

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No customer left behind, SAP's Klein tells users angered by cloud-only decision

Old school fear uncertainty and doubt

Knowing that the management know next to nothing about AI except that "it's the Future" gives FOMO leverage to push the gullible to a deal they don't understand.

Actually the standard enhancement concepts have enabled a standard data model with customer enhancements in additional structures or tables. It's easy to ignore the enhancements and train the machine learning on standard.

Further SAP has designed the Graph data model with simplification and interoperability in mind so an API-centric model is available too. Scalable too, with on-prem and PCE workloads remote over OSS.

This seems like a heap of avoidable stress and bad press that has technical mitigation available now. Just data access/privacy to fix..

Or could it be grasping at straws to please (potential) investors...

We're SaaS! Yeah!

Google exec: Microsoft Teams concession 'too little, too late'

Cloud Foundry

Clearly it is possible to run workloads across Azure, AWS and GCP so supported platforms should not be restricted.

This looks like a straight anti competition measure so should not be allowed globally..

Local governments aren't businesses – so why are they force-fed business software?

Biting the hand that feeds IT

"Local governments aren't businesses – so why are they force-fed business software?" Is a click-bait headline, which has worked since you are here!

The great majority of business processes in finance, controlling, human resources, purchasing, asset management and customer service are the same as any business enterprise. The law is the same so all enterprises have to operate in compliance. Yes there are exceptions specific to a council but the great majority is in common so that a fit to standard processes approach will deliver the core solution and leave time & money to deal with the exceptions.

That was true when the SAP solution was built and is still true now so should have been leveraged for its replacement with another software package.

This looks like the package implementation partners didn't enable the council with the correct approach for success.

A sad waste of public funds and stress on council employees that could have been avoided..

SAP user group calls for support deadline reprieve amid hospital billing worries

The end of life for ECC 6 has been announced for several years so this is a bogus call by DSAG.

SAP has provided interim continuity with many of its Add-On products so that migration to the strategic product doesn't have to happen at the same time as S/4. For example keep HCM instead of going to Success Factors.

Employee Central Payroll is a cloud instance of HCM PY that could be a model for IS-H continuity if SAP chose to follow their own pattern.

Largest local government body in Europe goes under amid Oracle disaster

Re: Easy win but challenging keep.

When we built the predecessor SAP solution it was not simple but we did make it work and not 400% over budget while late, too.

Understandable that BCC would choose a non SAP solution if they were not aware of Fiori UI which is a revolution in UX, and didn't understand the S/4 Conversation opportunity to return to Standard processes wherever possible.

Fundamentally the competence of implementation partners is key as well as making informed decisions.

Without the discipline to Fit to Standard directed from the top the mistake of excessive customising would just be repeated with woeful risk and total cost of ownership results.

A sad waste of public funds and fully avoidable .

S/4HANA was once the future for SAP – but now it's in the clouds

Re: The one thing...

I value critical thinking so agree some scepticism is justified.

On Private Cloud Edition the reference architecture is three tier (development, test and production environments) where change is expected or two tier (test and production environments) where deploy not change is expected. Important to understand that change is software change not configuration that doesn't change the software just selects which option is wanted. Thus there is no loss of change control on PCE compared to OnPrem deployment.

The expectation with PCE is one Release of the SAP products per year which is different from the quarterly release cycle on Public Cloud Edition. Private Cloud Edition allows changes to the enhancement points available within the supported Enhancement Concepts, i.e. are upgrade safe. The full range of unsafe changes that were possible OnPrem are not supported, which is good as much costly junk can be avoided.

So SAP customers have the choice to Convert their local junk (Brown field) or accept that it's junk and go back to standard processes (Green field).

Finance people like to pretend that their OnPrem junk is an Asset so they can 'Capitalise' the implementation project and claim tax credits for Research and Development. Thus they can depreciate the asset over some years and so reduce taxable profits.

Not surprising that DSUG corporate users don't accept this treatment of their history. They have to decide if they want to deploy standard at lower cost or if they are in the software business..

Europe’s biggest city council faces £100M bill in Oracle ERP project disaster

Small point of accuracy

The SAP ECC solution was not customised by BCC rather delivered as close to standard by Axon Solutions Ltd. Most of the customisation was integration to other BCC applications, as usual. Service Birmingham was responsible for application management so presumably would still know a lot about how it works.

It didn't take five years to implement SAP ECC so clearly the approach is not well suited to Oracle software and the implementation partners. Similarly conversation from SAP ECC to S/4 HANA doesn't take five years so given the standard Migration tools this was likely a political decision to use another software vendor.

Clearly S/4 HANA private cloud edition ticks the cloud box on a range of hyper-scalers. So freedom from legacy hardware and data centres is readily available.

Oracle's examplar win over SAP for Birmingham City Council is 3 years late

SAP ECC 6

In my experience of implementing SAP ECC 6 at Birmingham City Council, yes. That was on time and budget despite the complexity and historic issues that had to be solved. As a buyer of goods and services the council has lots in common with most businesses. However differences too as the care system doesn't work without the well meaning amateurs who will never be business people. Not a criticism just the reality that much of it doesn't make business sense so isn't run as a business.

I'm not surprised that Oracle custom solutions are risky and expensive since the same can be true of SAP, especially if the implementation partners aren't experienced.

Given that is not a description of the EY people that I have met, there's probably more to this than either party will say.

SAP users not happy about German giant's price rises

RPI

Compared to RPI, the general measure of industrial greed, 3% sounds restrained.

Compared to many service vendors with RPI+ annual rises, i.e. SAP customers, again quite modest.

Nobody likes a price rise but anybody in business knows that increased costs can't be just absorbed without impact.

The root cause of this is in the Kremlin not in Waldorf.

City council cans ERP project, keeps details of replacement supplier secret

Error on SAP

SAP Business Suite end of standard support is 2027 not 2025. Whilst it's possible to go live in as little as 3 months most customers would be more comfortable with 24 months so 2025 is the decision deadline in practice.

Obviously the demand will be huge due to the deadline and the supply is limited so best value to act now to avoid cost or worse being out of support.

University still living in the Nineties seeks help with move to SAP S/4HANA

Factual errors

ECC 6.0 on Netweaver 7.5 is currently in standard support by SAP that ends 2027, when extended support is available through 2030. After that it's end of life. Dead.

So this article is two years out. That's more like the last dates to start a project given that 18 to 24 months would be typical.

Your milage may vary, and other support providers are available.

S/4 HANA Private Cloud Edition will allow Enhancement to standard if you really believe that the total cost of ownership is worth it..

The evidence is that more than 70% of custom code is not used so customers are deluded in believing that custom code is needed.

Clear leadership and governance are required as most customers are not in the software business...

UK govt study says IR35 contractor tax reforms plain sailing for most

My observations of an offshore service provider:

1. Blanket Ban

2. Fail to source required skills

3. Deliverable based statement of work contacts

4. Business as usual. Jobs exported

Sovereign capability not important...

Oracle users fail to get that moving apps to cloud means business transformation – Gartner

"Who in their right mind is buying into this hyper expensive constant-financial-drain nonsense in the first place?"

I remember when relational database was the thing that RTI and Informix sold product excellence to the IT department, while Oracle sold to the Business and that success allowed their initially inferior product to get the investment to be equal or better than their competition.

So Oracle have a long history of selling to the business who will not take a technology or even financial perspective on the costs and benefits.

The SaaS subscription model is vendor specific and may well obscure the actual cost, both financial and technical..

Re: Customization

"Sometimes it's actually essential to the business."

Sometimes, yet mostly it is not, more likely just a business preference based on what their previous application did. The data is that 60% or more of custom code is not used in a typical package implementation. It's a testament to poor leadership and lack of focus on the true business objectives.

So while some think cloud is about the financial advantage of moving from capital investment in infrastructure to operational expenses for services, there's also the possibility that the C-suite just wants the usual processing done at low cost of ownership and without the option to create a money pit for little benefit.

If you really do have something distinctive to do the clean core and side extension model will provide the best of both in enabling innovation without those extensions compromising the core..

You might call that SaaS + PaaS.

SAP hits 50: Entrenched, spread out and fully middle-aged

Re: SAPGUI really stank

Moving from the mainframe technology of R/2 DynPro to R/3 kept the business application safe while the runtime looked after the different presentation layers (3270,GUI). So that made sense for SAP standard and customer bespoke application code.

The various attempts to become web enabled; WebDynpro, BSP, ICM, Mobile, showed that a better presentation layer was needed for a multi-channel user experience that was app simple and business process focused. Fiori is that presentation layer and started to give focus to the user experience from Business Suite (ECC 6) onwards.

Innovation with Fiori 3 design has enabled SAP to integrate the UX of all their historically diverse products into one, which returns to the appearance of a single application, whilst really being scaled across multiple cloud instances.

Underneath Fiori the OData services move to a service oriented architecture to better support working at scale in the cloud.

Of course Fiori is the standard presentation in S/4 working on premise and in the cloud. So both SAP Intelligent Suite and customer extensions are safe investments or operational expenses as you choose.