Too Late
I predict that by the time there is any sort of agreed standard for bot behaviour that allows web sites the control to allow or disallow bots as appropriate, it'll be too late to protect anything.
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"Meanwhile, the company reported yesterday that it had surpassed $10 billion in annual recurring revenue"
I dunno what's worse, that they're getting paid for this snake oil or that some have been persuaded to part with money for it.
Still, you know what's said about a fool and their money....
Many years ago, back in the 8086 days, I managed to fry a multi-io board in a machine simply by releasing the static charge by touching the mouse. The hard drive led went solid red and the machine became unresponsive. New multi-io board required.
Even more years ago, back in the physics class, it was our classroom show-offs turn to have sticky-up hair with his hand on the Van De Graff generator whilst stood on the insulating box. He thought it might be a laugh if he reached out with his finger to touch the teacher but as he leaned forward, his wedding tackle got too close to the gas tap on the bench....
The following shit-show was a number of years ago now but for the avoidance of doubt, bulkmailprovider was Mailchimp
So, the back story here is that a member of staff where I work could not subscribe to a particular mailing list for an organisation whose activities were very relevant to her job.
The organisation uses a bulk email service for distribution of said emails. I couldn't subscribe either, in fact no one could and another staff member was now no longer in receipt of a regular e-bulletin which was also distributed by this bulk mail service. Confused, I got in touch with them and the correspondence is below. I have changed names to protect the innocent and the ridiculous alike because you couldn't make this up.
RWG said: (Via their web page)
Hi.
I'm at a bit of a loss to explain this error message (That e-mail address has been banned) when some of our people attempt to subscribe to a mailing list you operate on behalf of the 'Important Public Organisation'.
I've made sure that 'BulkMailProviders' server addresses have been added to our mail filter white list but our users can still not successfully subscribe and another, who was previously receiving an E-bulletin, also delivered by yourselves on behalf of 'Another Important Organisation', is now no longer receiving that.
We use a 'ReputableMake' firewall with built in mail filtering.
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'BulkMailProvider' replied:
Hey RWG,
Thanks for getting in touch with us about this! I can definitely understand your concern here, and I'd be more than happy to help you get started in the right direction.
When an email address returns the banned error message, it is because somebody at that domain has requested to no longer receive emails from 'BulkMailProvider'.
We would recommend reaching out to our Compliance team for further information. They can be reached at compliance@bulkmailprovider.com
If there's anything else we can help you with, don't hesitate to get back in touch with us and we'll be happy to assist you.
Have a good one!
Thank you,
Igor
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RWG responded:
Hello
I was given your mail address by Igor. I understand from him, that the reason some of our users are unable to subscribe to e-bulletins and newsletters, from organisations that use your service for delivery, is because someone at our mail domain has requested not to receive any further communications from an organisation that uses your service. Can you advise how we might resolve this?
Regards
RWG
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'BulkMailProvider' replied:
Hi RWG and thank you for reaching out to us. In order to resubscribe the 'wherethisishappening' domain we just need the original person who requested to block to reach out to us. They can send an email to compliance@bulkmailprovider.com requesting the domain be resubscribed. While we are unable to provide the details of the individual who requested the block we can say it was submitted to us on November 19, 2013. Hopefully this will get you going in the right direction.
Feel free to contact us if you have any other specific questions or comments that we can assist you with.
Thank you,
Mel
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RWG asked:
Hi Mel
Thanks for getting back to me. I'm afraid your explanation, while understandable, is less helpful than I had hoped for. Unfortunately, it is not practical to interrogate the mail system, or our employees in order to determine who may have selected to unsubscribe.
Even if it were possible discover whom it may have been, it could be of little use, as if any one individual wishes to opt out of communications for which 'BulkMailProvider' is the service provider, then the entire mail domain is subsequently excluded. That strikes me to be a strange policy although no doubt the reasoning is sound. Could you offer some explanation on that? I'm sure our users here would be most interested, as would I.
Regards
RWG
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'BulkMailProvider' replied:
Hello RWG,
Thank you for writing back in. The domain @wherethisishappening has been removed from the blacklist. It will now be possible to add subscribers from this domain. Please note that it may take 24-48 hours for this to take effect.
If you have any additional questions, please let us know.
Thank you,
Tony
Blasted Generative AI. Worse than useless. We asked it to generate a picture of a pole-dancing Donald Trump having dollar bills slipped into his thong by MAGA-hat wearing men.
It refused. Guard rails or some safeguards or whatever. These tech companies have spent billions on this stuff and it refuses to co-operate. We want to mock!
Back in the 90's, that cracked case issue cost Compaq millions. The laptops were sent back to local service centres for the countries of origin, dismantled and the faulty plastic with I/O board was shipped to one of two places for replacement. One was in Houston, Texas the other was in Stirling, Scotland. We replaced the poor Japanese plastic with US plastic, refitted the I/O board and repacked them, often with different keyboards depending on the destination country.
I've never used the ISP supplied router as they're always built to a cost. I've also moved away from using an appliance as my router as if it dies (and that has happened before) I'm stuffed. I've now retired the little Fortigate in favour of a small PC with pfSense. Neither of these are for non-technical people but like many people who comment here, I'm not non-technical.
The Fortigate was great but unfortunately, there is zero support for the second user market either in firmware or feature licences. I know many would say it's overkill for a domestic set up and they might be right but the more robust my security, the more attractive the low-hanging fruit is. Of course if you really want overkill, try out Mikrotik.
Can't remember the board maker but think they had hdd and fdd direct attached by ribbon cables. Parallel and serial ribbons to a separate slot. They could support 2 x hdd and 2 x fdd and some even came with a game port - 15 pin D type. The machines were beige boxes branded Wren. Originally started out as 486DX-33 but we upgrade them to 486DX-66 (wow!) and fitted a cooler for the CPU. So sad that I can remember all that :(
This story reminds me of an event many years ago. I was performing some routine maintenance on multiple 486 machines running Windows 3.1. Walking back and forth across the carpet a few times was enough to build sufficient a static charge in me that when I reached for the mouse of one machine, I felt the zap of the escaping 'angry pixies' and watched as the machines hdd led came on and stayed on. I had fried a vital component of the multi-io board (remember them?) and the box was now totally unresponsive and unable to boot.
While awaiting the delivery of a replacement multi-io board, I placed a note on the monitor which read "Under treatment". I kept tropical fish as a hobby at the time. One of the other staff members added "Nil by mouse" to it. Amused by this I agreed she could submit it to The Readers Digest. They published it in one of their end of article fillers and we shared the spoils.