Re: Hey Apple!
"If you have iCloud Photo Library (iCPL) turned on, photos get uploaded. If Apple did server-side scanning, you wouldn't have any more choice than you would have with on-device scanning, because iCPL uploads all photos, and always has."
Would it surprise you to here that, on my iPhone, ICPL is already turned off? Because it is. For other reasons, but I didn't want that on. As for other things scanning, I make decisions on whether to install apps based on the scanning they're going to do. WhatsApp is not to be found on my devices.
The difference is that, if they're scanning my content on their servers, then they need to take lots of steps to start scanning data I never put on their servers. If they're scanning on my device, it's a two-line change in their code to scan all of the photo library and a few more lines to start scanning everything else. The traffic would already be expected, the software couldn't be disabled, and therefore the risks are much higher. And as I said at the beginning, an encrypted backup where they can't scan either is still my ideal solution.
"So if the government mandates it, you could choose to not buy any more equipment, but if Apple does this, you still are required to buy an iPhone? Your control is not buying the product. You said it yourself, but then go on to claim that somehow because it's Apple you can't do anything about it."
Yeah, that was poorly phrased. I'll try again. If the government mandates it, then there is information which can permit it to be avoided. It is not forced on my equipment until the software update which includes it, which I can refuse. Whether a device does it or not can be determined when purchasing a device, and therefore it can be avoided. If Apple does it without any mandates, then it's sneaked into devices (like they've already done) and control is much less.
Another point is relevant in this part of the discussion, which is that no government has mandated this yet. I would prefer to deal with a government-mandated version than an Apple without-legitimacy version, but at the moment, we could deal with neither because the government hasn't passed any such law. You're making me choose between a -95% option and a -85% option when a 0% option is also available.
"And do you honestly think if it was a government-mandated thing it wouldn't be completely classified as to how it works and what it does,"
No, I don't. The law which inserts it has to be public. The system used doesn't have to be, but to mandate the installation of code requires a law which can be investigated and challenged. Some countries might try to push through something without telling anyone, except, oh right, they haven't.