* Posts by Cynical Pie

78 posts • joined 25 Jan 2018


PC printer problems and enraged execs: When the answer to 'Hand over that floppy disk' is 'No'

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Re: Ah IT 'managers'

AH but @PM from Hell your cheaper (and probably better) consultants probably don't have marketing budgets and the chance to take Execs on Golf days or the like.

Less common these days I know but still important to remember

Couple wrongly arrested over Gatwick Airport drone debacle score £200k payout from cops

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Re: Payout, but no justice.

Well given they were released without charge I doubt the CPS ever got involved so not quite sure how they have any culpability in this.

This is 100% a balls up by the Rozzers in Sussex, no one else

The only way is bork for the UK's embattled rail travellers

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Re: Remember the 6P rule

As evidenced by this example that has 7Ps

Legal complaint lodged with UK data watchdog over claims coronavirus Test and Trace programme flouts GDPR

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Re: Conspiracy time?

Slight red herring there on document length (albeit very slight) as GDPR doesn't include data being processed for law enforcement and national security purposes.

The 2018 DPA includes both GDPR and the EU Law Enforcement Directive that does the Data Protection stuff for the rozzers and the security services.

That said the 2018 DPA is poorly drafted and a bugger to use!

Spending watchdog doubts UK is capable of managing Brexit and coronavirus info campaigns at the same time

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Re: Naysayers

You forgot ' Check-Out-eyes'

Hooray! It's IT Day! Let's hear it for the lukewarm mugs of dirty water that everyone seems to like so much

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Try working in the Fire Service.

In a previous life I worked for a Fire Service in the NW of England and as a civilian employee shared an office with uniformed staff.

The average brew count was 4 per hour including several occasions of one being made and not even started before another brew was offered.

In essence I had fresh tea on tap and its a legacy of the uniformed staff being on station so always grabbing a brew as they never knew if theyd get to finish one by being called out.

Its a legacy that persists after they leave too. A good friend is a retired London Fireman and even now after being retired for 15 years he still manage 3 brews an hour and gets the DTs if he doesn't have his mid morning toast between 10-10.30am and a brew and some cake between 3 and 3.30om :)

Wanna force granny to take down that family photo from the internet? No problem. Europe's GDPR to the rescue

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Re: GDPR is a joke....

Births, marriages and deaths are a matter of public record so not quite sure what the issue is with Google using them.

I notice no one bitching about Ancestry.com or the like using exactly the same data in the same way and then charging you for the privilege of accessing them.

I'm no fan of Google but in terms of the use of public records I suspect you are aiming your ire at the wrong target

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Re: GDPR is a joke....

As someone who has been doing Information Governance as a gig for the last 20 yrs or so I cannot stress enough that GDPR and Data Protection law historically is not about privacy and it never has been,

Anyone who thinks it is has their head up their backside.

Yes there are privacy aspects but the primary concern is the fair and lawful use of personal information, not privacy.

Personally I think the Dutch court has it wrong, a grandmother posting a picture of her grandchild is personal use - she might have been doing it with the subconscious intention of pi$$ing her daughter off but its nothing other than personal use.

Has she posted the same picture and said 'look at his jumper, I made that, would someone like to buy one' then she is clearly straying away from personal into commercial use.

The problem with Data Protection is the way the laws are written allow for the nuance that is necessary in dealing for the day to day use of information and sometimes it creates daft situations like this.

Comms giant Telefonica confirms O2 in talks to merge with Virgin Media

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As a VM customer for Mobile and Tv/Broadband/Fixed Line their Mobile Customer Service isn't too bad, certainly no worse than any of the other providers all of whom I have been with over the years.

Less said about their TV etc side of the biz although on the one occasion we had a problem it was sorted reasonably quickly and we received compensation for a loss of service. Still a nightmare trying to speak to anyone though

Square peg of modem won't fit into round hole of PC? I saw to it, bloke tells horrified mate

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Re: DIMM Slots

Other basic engineering maxims include 'if it doesn't move and it should use WD40 and if it does move and it shouldn't use gaffer tape'

Three things in life are certain: Death, taxes, and cloud-based IoT gear bricked by vendors. Looking at you, Belkin

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Re: Never buy IoT kit

I think its more the case that the vast majority of the drones in places selling theses pieces of kit (CPW I'm looking at you) don't have the first effing clue how this stuff works themselves.

Microsoft staff giggle beneath the weight of a 52,000-person Reply-All email storm

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Re: Cursed to Live in Interesting Times

Have an Upvote for the Sir Pterry reference

World's smallest violin to be played for opportunistic sellers banned from eBay and Amazon for price gouging

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what complete and absolute b@*£ocks.

Academics call for UK's Computer Misuse Act 1990 to be reformed

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Piers is that you?

Its all well and good claiming public interest but the press in this country have a hard time differentiating between 'in the public interest' and what is interesting to the public (and sells papers/advertising space)

EU've been naughty: GDPR has netted bloc €114m in fines since 2018

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Re: France, Germany and Austria house the most offenders

A key consideration for use of legitimate interests is does it prejudice the rights and freedoms of the individual.

That the individual may not like it or object isn't necessarily enough to show it prejudices their rights or freedoms and so LI might still be applicable.

That said with all things DP context is everything and what works for one situation may not work for another identical type of processing due to the wider circumstances.

Worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable and royalty-free: Amazon's Alexa NHS contract released

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Re: This article is scaremongering a bjt

they aren't. The DoH aren't sharing personal data so there are zero data protection implications for them.

That Google may choose to profile is a matter for Google and they (Google) would be the data controller as they are the ones collecting and processing personal data.

Morrisons tells top court it's not liable for staffer who nicked payroll data of 100,000 employees

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Re: Depends if decent efforts at data security made by Morrisons

doesn't matter one iota what the DPA 208 says, this case is being considered under the 1998 Act

Who's the leakiest of them all? It's the UK's public sector, breach fine analysis reveals

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Re: Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics

And in my experience private sectors companies actively tried to avoid notifying the ICO (and despite the reporting requirements for GDPR that's probably still true)

GDP-arrrrrrgggghhh! A no-deal Brexit: So what are you going to do with all that lovely data?

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A more comprehensive analysis of our likely (in)adequacy in GDPR/DP terms can be found here, https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3441617

Uber, Lyft and DoorDash put $30m apiece into ballot battle fund to kill gig-economy employee benefits

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Re: "And they have the governor’s ear:"

Along with the head of Alfredo Garcia....

Talk about unintended consequences: GDPR is an identity thief's dream ticket to Europeans' data

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Sorry but the fault here isn't GDPR, its just p!ss poor data protection controls from these companies and I suspect they'd have been equally as rubbish before GDPR came into effect.

As someone who deals with SARs regularly our first task is always to verify the requestors ID and from what is in the article this seems to be the regular failing.

50 years ago today Apollo 11 slipped the surly bonds of Earth to put peeps on the Moon

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Re: BBC Podcast

+2... Listed to ep 11 (The actual 13 minutes in real time) on the way to work yesterday.

Truly spine tingling even though you know what happened!

Ex-Which? bod's £3bn Safari sueball has second shot at Google over UK data laws

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Re: But the judges were right ?

That's up to the victims to take the matter to court, the remedies are there but the onus is on the individual.

London cop illegally used police database to monitor investigation into himself

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Re: systemic flaw

Only when Havelock allows it...

Have an upvote for the Sir Pterry reference

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WHy wasn't he sacked?

I would assume he was on restricted duties while the court case took place and now he would be subject to internal disciplinary processes which will probably see him dismissed.

Crude oversimplification I know but if he was alleged to have done this, sacked before the case reached court and then found to be innocent by the courts then the Met would have been up the effluent creek without sufficient rowing equipment for unfair dismissal.

As an aside working with police as I occasionally do they actually do require quite broad access as connections are often made by looking at similar cases which can allow them to create patterns of behaviour to ID suspects.

Its far from a perfect system but the highly restricted and siloed access some are suggesting has the potential to be just as damaging as the current system, particularly in time sensitive cases.

UK watchdog fined firms £3m for data breaches last year – before its GDPR balls dropped

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Re: Trebles all round?

Not all of them... those at the station end of town are closer to the Porsche Showroom

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Re: Trebles all round?

The majority of ICO staff would struggle to afford a Mazda let alone a Maserati given the salaries they are paid.

That said the office is right next to an Aston Martin dealers so if they do have some spare cash...

Marriott's got 99 million problems and the ICO's one: Starwood hack mega-fine looms over

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Well given that GDPR/DPA 2018 makes Directors/CEOs personally liable (depending upon the circumstances) I'd wager the amount collected will be a far higher percentage than previously

Bonkers British MPs rant: 5G signals cause cancer

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by Professor Plum in the Library...

Having bank problems? I feel bad for you son: I've got 25 million problems, but a bulk upload ain't one

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Re: 10 minutes, not a second more...

I smell a life insurance claim

What price the Moon? Tips from the past might save the present

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Re: "at least one year in its 100x100km orbit"

Obligatory fruit based fondleslab 'are you holding it right' reference

To members of Pizza Hut's loyalty scheme: You really knead to stop reusing your passwords

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Breach Notification

Breach notification isn't mandatory under GDPR despite what some seem to believe. Its dependent on the nature of the breach, the information concerned and the risk of prejudice to the individual the data relates to.

Based on the information here I doubt its a mandatory report but Pizza Hut might report anyway, particularly if there is more to the story than has been disclosed

US Air Force probes targeted malware attack, blames... er, the US Navy? What?

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Re: How touching


Irish data cops are shoving a probe right into Google's ads

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Re: That woulda be a spicy tamale

It was transposed directly into national law, at least in the UK using the DPA 2018. The DPA 2018 also encompasses the Law Enforcement directive as GDPR doesn't cover processing for law enforcement purposes.

Home Office cops an earful for emergency network feck-ups - £3bn overbudget and 3 years late

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Oh they will...

its just it will be the front line staff rather than the bean counters and f@*£wits in government... I give you the Grenfell Enquiry as exhibit A

Motion detectors: say hello, wave goodbye and… flushhhhhh

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Re: The non delivery

FWIW I pay the minimal fee (about 50p) to get RM items delivered to the local post office rather than bugger about trying to get to the sorting office

Turn me up some: Smart speaker outfit Sonos blasted in complaint to UK privacy watchdog

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Explicit consent only applies to special category data (sensitive PD as was under the old act with a couple of extra bits like biometrics) but for uses of 'normal' category data assuming you don't have another condition for processing and you are going with consent then you need 'informed' consent i.e. make people aware of what they are consenting to and why.

Its at that point you need to provide the ability to opt out.

This is why the vast majority of data controllers are avoiding consent like the plague as they often have another basis for processing anyway.

Hello, tech support? Yes, I've run out of desk... Yes, DESK... space

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Re: Teaching

I seem to remember Nokia or some other company did a study back in the 90s/early 00s where they allowed 50% of their staff to use the pre-installed games on windows and the took them off the pcs of the rest when they refreshed their IT kit.

After an initial drop off the staff with the games ended up being more productive. Makes sense as without something to take your mind off the report your writing or the like you will find other ways to waste time whereas those with the games work far harder as they don't want to be seen to be wasting too much time gaming so put in extra effort to get their work done... well that was the theory anyway!

Fortune favours the Brave: Privacy browser chap takes gripes over adtech body's website to Irish data watchdog

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Re: "the law doesn't specifically say we can't so we obviously can"

I know the law does, I was referring to their defence... and the anon comment was added after my post :)

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Ah the old 'the law doesn't specifically say we can't so we obviously can' defence.

Newsflash - the law doesn't explicitly say you can't plant land mines in your front garden but I suspect the authorities would take a dim view if you did!!

Icon - well not my fault the postie stepped on to the grass...

Year 1 of GDPR: Over 200,000 cases reported, firms fined €56 meeelli... Oh, that's mostly Google

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Re: Companies going too far.

I'd call bull sh!t with your provider on that.

Details of a price rise wouldn't be marketing, it would be part of your terms of contract in the same way that a bill or statement would.

Amazon may finally get its hands on .amazon after world's DNS overseer loses patience

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It is I Leclerc...

Official science: Massive asteroids are so difficult to destroy, Bruce Willis wouldn't stand a chance

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Doomed, we're all doomed I tell you...

Housing biz made to pay £1.5k for sticking fingers in its ears when served a subject access request

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Actually not true, simply containing the name doesn=t make it personal data, the Durant ruling makes it quite clear that the information has to be biographical about the individual and the as snagging is about the house not the person, wouldn't make it the person's PD. The person's name would be PD but the stuff about the house wouldn't.

Your example of 'Fred' would be PD - its about him but just mention of a person in an email/document etc. doesn't make that their PD and to say it does is frankly nonsense but since you're playing on the experience and 'I know better than you card' here I guess my 15+ years as a DP Officer in the public sector doing SARs on a daily basis and with DP and FOI qualifications mean less than your experience doing IT in schools.

Mines the one with well thumbed and annotated copies of the DPA98, FOI, DPA2018 and GDPR in the pockets

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RTFA, the ICO didn't set the fines, the courts do in this instance.

In many ways the ICO isn't fit for purpose but blaming it for the failings of someone else is a bit much

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Re: example?

Snagging wouldn't be personal data so wouldn't be captured by a subject access request.

Only plebs use Office 2019 over Office 365, says Microsoft's weird new ad campaign

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What is wrong with the old adage if it ain't broke don't fix it?

Yes Office can be frustrating at times but I much prefer the 'out of the box' versions such as 2019 (still happily using 2010 at home) rather than the constantly updated (read as 'oh FFS where have the developers moved (insert function of choice) to now?' version that is 365.

There is also the fact that some users (ie the Boss AKA Mrs Cynical Pie) struggle to use 365 due to the lack of block colours for the tool bars etc. Office 365 may look all clean and modern and shiny but sometimes old school works.

German competition watchdog tells Facebook to stop combining user data without consent

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But But but....

we are doing this for the benefit of our product... I mean users... users, yes definitely users, not a product no, not at all ***phew think I got away with that and no one noticed***

Romford Station, smile! You're in London cops' final facial recog 'trial'

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I'm surprised no one in authority has trotted out the classic nothing to hide nothing to fear etc etc



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