
Re: Friends of the Earth?
You've got the wrong site - you're normally being quoted on http://ifyoulikeitsomuchwhydontyougolivethere.com/. Meanwhile, the "green" agenda isn't actually green at all - I've seen it, it's written on white paper. Lies!
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Jim
Look on the bright side - at least none of the comments so far are trotting out the idea that anyone researching the issues are protecting their research grants. There has been a little known rush of energy executives leaving their jobs to take up research grants into environmental issues, so great are the rewards.
OK, lets try again. It is an article: nonfiction prose.
I've no problem with someone asking questions as part of science. Even though it was in a news website. The problem is that if you're going to ask questions in science, it's normal to have some understanding of the field before you do so. Other posters have made it very clear why he's wrong in his basic assumptions. It's a pity you think freedom of speech is "dieing" (sic). Go and read some of the real science, and when you've educated yourself on the subject, you might be in a position to add something to the debate. Just don't expect to come along to a forum, post some twaddle without any understanding of the issues, and expect to be taken seriously.
OK, so...it was comment...not supposed to have any proof or scientific data. Then you say people are attacking the person and motives, not the science he presents. So you're a little confused there. over whether science is being presented or not. At least you're agreeing the article has no basis in science, can't be justified, and isn't adding anything to a debate on the matter.
So an "IT professional" is able to spout some twaddle about a field he doesn't understand? Bimey, the Reg is going downhill. OK: As others have pointed out, climate science didn't suddenly appear fully formed, it's based on solid science. It's not just about the climate models, those are based on the real data. It's a pity that someone calling themselves an IT professional clearly has no idea of real science. Obviously no-one has told the Royal Society that all these scientists don't believe it - but then why listen to an old-fashioned body of people who've actually achieved something, or read actual research papers?
Interesting also that the "It's all a green conspiracy" theorists are out in force - obviously articles like this written by a hack after a liquid lunch don't help, but neither do White House aides editing scientific reports to make it appear as if there's genuine consensus, or pseudo-independent think tanks funded by the oil industry duplicating the tobacco industry tactics to make it appear as if there's still a debate. Anyone out there really think the green lobby has more power than the oil companies? Anyone who believes that who isn't wearing a tinfoil hat? No, thought not.
Al Gore never claimed that he invented the Internet; he said:
"During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system"
Jeroen: Having a bit of a strop about facts you don't like? Go have some more of your happy pills, then ask someone to explain what 'science' is all about, in words of one syllable.