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>One has a desktop with ... four Ryzen processors
That doesn't exist. Ryzen are gaming/consumer processors which aren't SMP capable so the max number of processors in a desktop can only be 1.
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> Apple are not perfect (there’s a phrase doing a lot of heavy lifting), but they managed to go from power to intel and intel to arm whilst still allowing backwards compatibility
Actually, Apple managed to go from M68k to PowerPC, from PowerPC to intel and from intel to ARM, all whilst still allowing backwards compatibility during each transition.
> AIUI Win11 needs TPM 2 and therefore Win11 Bitlocker needs it too.
Win 11 does not need TPM 2.0 (in fact, it doesn't need any TPM), it's just that the installer's hardware check insists on a TPM 2.0 (as well as other hardware, neither which is actually required to run Win 11).
Bitlocker on Windows 11 doesn't care and works just as well with a TPM 1.2, the same way Windows 10 did.
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
― Isaac Asimov
"The opinion of 10,000 men is of no value if none of them know anything about the subject"
— Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (AD 121 - 180)
You might be right, but then really people do get what they deserve, If you can't make the least of an effort then that means you agree with all the shit that Microsoft is doing to its users.
Besides, there's till ChromeOS Flex, which is as easy as it gets and which is probably the most user friendly way to get into Linux.
>> "xfs is great if you need to wrangle huge files or filesystems"
XFS is also great for smaller files (XFS used to be slow when moving small files, but that has no longer been true for over a decade).
I'd go as far to say that XFS, not ext4, is probably the best choice as a general use file system unless there's a specific reason to use something else.
HP has done this for more than two decades under the label "HP RENEW" for pretty much all it's business/enterprise gear, and HPE has continued the tradition. All HP RENEW kit is refurbished to almost like new (aside from occasional minor scratches) and comes with the same warranty as a brand new product.
The only thing not renewed are keyboard/mice for hygienic reasons.
We got a ton of great deals out of HP RENEW.
I'm not sure I can feel sorry for Avast users who got caught out by this, after all this isn't the first time Avast has misappropriated user data (they have a solid trac record of getting caught, apologizing and after a short while doing it again), so anyone who is still using them clearly hasn't paid attention.
Which is a pretty poor thing to do especially when it comes to chosing software that's supposed to protect you and your systems.
It's not an invalid comparison. Optical disks are too slow to be used as mass storage (especially in an age of flash based storage) and software distribution on physical media is all but dead, so the only remaining use cases for the discs in the article are backup and archiving.
Where it has to compete with tape.
There's a reason all the optical backup/archiving formats, including the various MO formats, have long died out while tape is still standing.
Just that the TS1170 is available today, and since IBM is still developing tape systems (it's actually one of the few remaining great things coming out of IBM) by the time this 200TB optical disk will actually be available for purchase IBM's 3592 will have progressed as well (the TS1180 with 80TB native is already in the pipeline, an it's successor is said to likely store 150TB native).
You really think users of a free enterprise Linux distro like CentOS would be interested in moving to another pay-to-use-it Linux distro (the "liberty"in Liberty Linux clearly doesn't stand for the freedom to use and get updates without a support contract)? For a RHEL clone which like all the others will inevitably deviate from the RHEL original since RH doesn't make the sources available to non-customers?
And for those that need support, why should they give their money to SUSE (a company which is currently strangulating the free SEL clone openSUSE through the move to ALP) for their locked down RHEL clone instead of paying for enterprise support for Alma Linux (which is available for free)?
I never thought I'd say this, but even Oracle Linux is a much better proposition for CentOS users than Liberty Linux.
""It's just comical that everyone deploying at scale has a DC bus bar and yet you cannot buy a DC bus-bar-based system from Dell, HP, or Supermicro, because, quote unquote, no one wants it," Cantrill quipped."
That's actually false. Both Dell and HP/HPE have DC power supplies as option for most of their regular servers, and have had them for a while. We use them for special purpose applications but they are meant for DC use.
Strange, I recently installed Chrome on a number of Linux workstations, and Firefox is still their default web browser.
At the first launch Chrome asks if it should be the default browser, but after the offer is declined it seems to leave it at that.
This was on Alma Linux, Oracle Linux, openSUSE Leap and Debian, so it's not distro specific.
Not sure what makes you think Chrome does just by being installed, but I'd have to say it's nonsense.
The name change makes sense. "XenServer" is still a better known brand than "Citrix Hypervisor", and I guess Citrix is hoping on increased interest from VMware customers who want to move to something else.
Still, this will be a hard sell, especially against vendors Nutanix.
"The bigger picture view: iOS, iPadOS and Android have shown that immutable OS deployment and image-based update distribution works, well, in the field, at vast scale, on devices with no local tech support. This stuff is out there today and used by literally billions of people. It works."
Yes, but only that most of these systems use a simple A/B partitioning scheme where updates are installed in another partition which is then booted into, which means the original boot partition now becomes the new spare.
Same advantage without all the complexity that comes with any of the immutable Linux distros.
What gets me is that there clearly is demand for what MS Access offers (a simple desktop database), yet there isn't really anything else like it (there's Filemaker which is good but it's 3x the price of an MS Access license; there's also LibreOffice Base but that is still a dis-functional mess based on HSQL and Java, while the move to Firebird that was announced some 7 years ago still hasn't happened).
Personally I stick with what is based on enterprise Linux, i.e. RHEL and SEL. So that's Alma/Rocky Linux (mostly for servers) and openSUSE Leap (for the desktop).
And there isn't really any other Linux distro as user friendly as openSUSE Leap.
"Seriously though... what does SUSE have to offer as a distro these days? What distinguishes them? Why would I choose them over, say, Devuan?"
SUSE, like Red Hat, offers an enterprise grade Linux distribution called SUSE Enterprise Linux (SEL), supported by enterprise-level support. SEL also happens to be the prime platforms for a number of software packages like SAP.
SUSE also is, like Red Hat, one of the main contributor to the Linux ecosystem (even more so than say Canonical, which actually contributes less than even Microsoft).
Devuan, well, is pretty much the complete opposite of SEL, and mostly built for people who hate modern Linux and prefer an OS stuck in 2008 or so.
Besides, the article is about openSUSE (the community which builds free/non-commercial openSUSE distros, based on SEL packages) and not SUSE (the enterprise Linux vendor).
"A Chromebook is typicaly low-spec"
No, it's not. Not everyone buys computers at a Target Sale or at Walmart, and not all ChromeBook customers work in education.
ChromeBooks are very common in many larger organizations, also because the TCO is so much lower than with Windows. For example, the lowest ChromeBook config we use are 10th gen i3, 8GB RAM and 128GB SSD, although these days most standard laptops are 11th+ gen quadcore i5 and 256GB SSD. We also use models with fast i7 processors, 16 or 32GB RAM and larger SSDs. All inside business grade laptops (which look and feel the same as any other premium business grade laptop).
"I bought an asus chromebook and it sucks."
No, you bought an Asus computer and it sucks. It sucks because Asus is crap.
"had it 2 months before the touchscreen died, not repairable, no longer in stock even though it was only build 10 months ago and half my android apps wouldn't work on it."
And you came to the conclusion that the touchscreen died because it's a ChromeBook how, exactly?
"That's been true for quite a while."
No, it hasn't.
"My Windows box is a P4, 32 bit. A few months back I got a Linux magazine with cover disc for €1 (to shift old stock). Put it in, rebooted, saw a tiny text message saying I needed another 32 bits for it to work. Nowhere was this mentioned (I'd not have bought it if it said it was x86-64 as I know I don't have that). I think, these days, it's just assumed that all the ancient hardware is either dead, forgotten, or landfill."
Seriously? The last Pentium4 that was 32bit only was Northwood which came out in 2002, that was *two decades ago*. Subsequent P4s all had intel64 (intel's variant of AMD's x64 extensions) and likely would have booted that Linux disc.
While I'm all for keeping older systems running, 22 years is really stretching it, especially when the processor in question has been a POS since the day it was released. And considering the horrific performance/Watt ratio of intel's dreadful NetBurst architecture, recycling is where anything with a Pentium 4 should have been (and mostly has been) headed many years ago.
Pretty much any PC that is given away for free to a willing taker is likely to run circles around that antique in terms of performance and energy efficiency. There is really no point holding onto that P4.
Had this happen to me today on all my GDrive accounts - lots of newer files gone AWOL.
This was on Windows. Checked Google Drive on the web, all data there. Checked Google Drive on my Macs, all data there. Checked Google Drive contents on Linux (GNOME), all data there.
Only on Google Drive for Windows the files are missing (on all my Windows machines).
So it seems that no data has actually been lost, it's just that the Google Drive client for Windows fails to show data beyond a certain date.
"Millions of people do manage to work with Windows, often on large deployments of hundreds or thousands of pcs."
That's like saying "eat shit, billions of flies can't be wrong!"
It's probably more accurate that millions of people are forced to work with Windows and Microsoft applications, mostly because of the heard mentality of their employer. Which is also reflected in their TCO, which is notably higher than for other platforms like Macs or ChromeOS (both easier to manage across large fleets than Windows).
"You are basically forced into making one if you buy a Mac... No one complains about any of those, but when Microsoft does it, the entire village comes out with their pitchforks and torches. It's fascinating to me from an anthropological perspective."
No-one complains about it because what you wrote is BS, plain and simple. There is no online requirement for Macs, and never has been. During installation, users are asked if they want to login using their Apple ID, but that's optional (and unlike Microsoft, Apple doesn't even hide the option).
"I also don't get the bit about the online account. "
My feeling is that this isn't the only thing you don't seem to get.
"Yes, but gamers are not "realistic" people. They are the kind of people who max out their gaming rigs to get the total experience"
Only in e-Sports and in ads. In the real world, PC gamers rarely splurge for the upper tier, in fact most gaming rigs are mostly in the middle class. Simply because aside from synthetic benchmarks the benefit fo spending >$1k for a GPU even in AAA titles is negligible.
"Oh come on! That security incident was 6 or 7 years ago and lasted ONE day!"
It lasted one day because the hackers were idiots (they managed to replace install media with manipulated ones, but didn't change the checksum files), which is why it was discovered so quickly.
It could have easily ended worse and the fact that this was even possible suggests a lack of security hygiene.
"Microsoft has been hacked many times and its entire Windows source code has been leaked."
So your argument is it's fine because someone else is worse? That's a rather stupid argument to make.
"And tens of thousands of highly confidential government emails were pilfered by Chinese hackers because Microsoft couldn't be bothered to properly vet a digital certificate in its Azure infrastructure! Mind you, this is supposedly the "highly secure" government Azure domain, not the commercial one used by businesses."
Yes, Azure is shit, but still, comparing the complexity of a global cloud infrastructure with the website of a community Linux distro is a bit silly, really.
Fact is that, if you want Linux, there are much better options than Mint. Which, as mentioned, is little more than an clone of Ubuntu. Which is one of the worst Linux distros there is.
Mint is based on Ubuntu, which itself is known as the "Windows amongst Linuxes". So flakey-ness is part of the program.
I tend to stick with distros based on enterprise Linux (openSUSE Leap, Alma Linux) where stuff tends to work more reliably. Especially openSUSE has been great on the desktop, aside from being the most user friendly one (thanks to YaST).
" You keep referring to "companies" but private individuals, especially those in poorer countries, have great interest in moving to Linux."
I keep referring to companies because the reality is that consumers, even in rich countries, are small change compared to the revenue software vendors like Microsoft make from business and enterprise sales.
Even people in poorer countries tend to use Windows, often either an expired version (even XP) or a pirated version of something newer.
"Even in wealthier countries the notion that you're forced to ditch your hardware just because Microsoft wants to up its profits will prod many to give it a try. And if all of them rally around Linux Mint the flock could jump ship."
There won't be a mass migration to Linux (and even less likely to something like Mint, a community distro which is little more than a clone of Ubuntu, built by a community who got hacked because they couldn't be bothered to do security properly). That's a pipe dream.
If anything, we'll see an increase in ChromeOS Flex adoption, which does most of what the majority of users want off a PC anyways. The rest most likely will simply buy a new computer eventually.
"Retraining will be required for the different applications staff will need to use. Despite many applications moving to the cloud, there are still a boatload of legacy Windows based applications still in use"
Training for specialist applications is a different issue, and one that's not related to the operating system. Such training also doesn't really revolve around user interfaces but rather on specific processes.
"Considering we have end users who shit a brick if an icon moves or the background colour changes, moving to a different OS and set of applications won't be as easy as you seem to think it will be."
If you really have users who "shit a brick" when they face any minor change then you'll be in a world of hurt anyways as there are a lot of changes in Windows 11. And Microsoft already said that a lot more major changes are coming, whether you like it or not. And not just to Windows, but to Office and other Microsoft applications as well.
If you want a platform with a stable UX environment then Windows has been the wrong choice for a very long time.
"One VIP user logged a category one case just because his applications had moved on his multi monitor setup, demanding someone on site immediately. These are the people you have to deal with in enterprise environments."
I know this type of user, but the matter of fact is that you'll have to deal with these things one way or another. And I can tell you from experience that the amount of stupid complaints has dropped dramatically (i.e., >85%) once our clients moved off Windows. Not just because a lot of the BS that is necessary on Windows doesn't exist on other platforms.
"I wish I would stop hearing this dream, that there will be this huge onrush to Linux after Windows does something "X". It's not going to happen."
Probably not with Linux. But Windows is already losing market share left and right to Mac OS and ChromeOS. Because the TCO of both platforms is notably lower, and user satisfaction a lot higher than with Windows.
"Companies will not spend man-hours to upgrade and retrain"
Strange argument, because the same companies clearly need to upgrade to something because Windows 10 will be dead soon.
And retrain, for what? For employees which, for most part, have zero trouble using tablets, phones and any other kind of devices with widely varying user interfaces? Or the now completely revamped interface in Windows 11, or the constant UX experiments Microsoft forces onto its users of its on-prem and MS365 offerings?
"and no industry that runs industry-specific software - be it the creatives, pharmaceutical, retail, financial, manufacturing, accounting, and more - will *ever* be satisfied with hearing "Just run it in a VM / emulator!"."
Outside a few niches, most business specific software is already running in a web browser, connected to the cloud (and the ones that aren't will be there soon!). If you haven't noticed, even Microsoft has been busy killing off its on-premises software one by one to get its customers into their cloud offerings.
What's left are a small number of businesses with niche applications which have to be run locally for one reason or another, and a larger number of businesses who made the stupid move to buy into some shitty software which is built on top of Microsoft Office. These are literally the only edge cases which need to stick with Microsoft and the Windows platform, but the second group wholeheartedly deserves what it gets.
"No. Not happening. Dream on. We've got decades of proof that this won't happen yet every Linuxhead keeps trying to revive the dream."
You're not wrong, we "day of the Linux desktop" has been coming soon for a quarter of a century. So no, Linux (as in regular Linux distros) are not going to replace Windows in businesses anytime soon.
But other alternatives already are. And the outcome has been universally much lower TCO and much more satisfied users.
Windows won't go away, but in the not too distant future it'll only be the OS of choice for the kind of businesses that still think it's hip to have fax machines.
"Windows 11 isn't being adopted because of a combination of locked-in hardware requirements and a known level of integrated telemetry, "
Telemetry which already exists in Windows 10 (and which has been retrofitted to Windows 7 and 8.x as well).
If you think that's new then you must have been in a coma over the last decade or so.
"I took offence at the Anon Coward's comment of "so it can better lie to you", and called it FUD, because that's what it was. Do you disagree?"
Yes. Because it's not FUD. ChatGPT (on which Copilot and the Bing AI experiments are based on) is known to lie (like all LLMs do), and in some instances Bing's chatbot even tried to manipulate its users to help it circumvent its own limitation to achieve its goal.
It's only FUD if you're completely oblivious to what's going on in technology because you've been living under a rock the last year or so. Because examples where LLMs made stuff up has been all over the news for months now.
Especially older users can't really remember complex passwords, while complexity is part of keeping your Google account safe.
Just because you're clearly happy to enter a 20 character mixture of letters, numbers and special characters every time your computer has booted doesn't mean everyone is. And the sheer fact that biometric sensors are so widespread should have told you already that there likely is some demand for not having to type in your full password.
But yet here we are.
That's what Microsoft says it collects from Office:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/deployoffice/compat/data-that-the-telemetry-agent-collects-in-office
That's a lot of potentially identifying information.
As for ads, Windows has had them for years, like in the Bing Widget sidebar and in search, and the ad platform uses user telemetry data for targeting. Windows also pushes Microsoft subscriptions to its users left, right and center, for example in the "get you started" wizard following larger updates. Edge has monetization built in (Shopping with Microsoft), and users of standalone Office are also shown various MS365 ads and nag screens.
And Microsoft is planning even more ads in Windows.
As for AI integration (Copilot), I guess you have been living under a rock or in a cave for the last couple of weeks as this was mentioned everywhere:
https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2023/09/21/announcing-microsoft-copilot-your-everyday-ai-companion/
I'm not sure this is entirely correct. Many generations of BMWs came with inherent design flaws, such as the 7 series E32 which had the tank inside the rear deformation zone (so the car would catch fire when rear-ended). Or the cracking prone rear subframe mounts in the E46 3 series.
The PCB soldered NiCd batteries that kept the service interval indicator, various board computer features and often even the odometer working across several generations and models, and which when inevitably leaking would started eating away the PCB are probably legendary as well. BMW could have positioned them in a separate, easily accessible compartment so they could have been replaced easily but just didn't.
BMW was also the first German car manufacturer which declared the ATF in the ZF automatic transmissions (like the ones used in E32 and E30) a lifetime item, while ZF itself mandated regular ATF changes for the same transmission variant. Consequently, BMWs suffered transmission failures at around 150'000km/94'000mls while the same transmission in other cars had much lower failure rates.
Overall older BMWs were decent cars, and most of the engineering was good, but maybe BMWs Bavarian workers should have kept their hands off the beer when designing some of these things.
>> Since many printer vendors would only provide a Windows driver, it made OS2 and Linux second-class operating systems.
Only for bottom-of-the-barrel printers which were too cheap to have their own processors and relied on the host CPU instead (like GDI lasers).
Pretty much everything business class supported at least one HP LaserJet emulation, and in most cases PostScript as well, and these worked just fine under OS2, Linux or MacOS.
And even for cheap printers, many manufacturers still offered drivers for other operating systems than just Windows.
>> That helped Windows go from "dominant" to "monopoly"
I'm pretty sure that it wasn't printer drivers which made Windows a monopoly OS on desktop PCs, but rather Microsoft's anti-competitive practices such as paying PC vendors to only offer Windows with their PCs.
It also ignores that Macs have, over the last 30+ years, been the dominant platform in the DTP space. Which would have been impossible if the platform didn't have excellent printer support as designers still had to pre-print before sending jobs to the EFI.
>> A truly compatible printer wouldn't need a new driver, but the user might not realize it was supported via another vendor's driver.
I'm not saying such users don't exist, but in general the overwhelming majority of users have been able to use compatible drivers since at least the early 80's (using compatible drivers like Epson FX for line printers has been pretty common).
I would be lying if I said what you wrote here made any sense.
>> "Focus" is the new marketing buzzword.
Not quite, "Focus" is another word for "being productive", used by Microsoft to make it less obvious that MS365 also generates productivity reports of employees using the software so employers can monitor what employees are doing.
The other "focus" stuff in MS365 is just window dressing to create the (false) impression that it's supposed to help the user.
>> Of course, get them while they're young and impressionable so they don't think about the privacy and IP risks of using Google when they grow up.
As compared to the even worse privacy and IP risks when using MS365 you mean? Aside from the fact that Google has a much better track record than Microsoft when it comes to security.