* Posts by Cragdoo

2 publicly visible posts • joined 19 Jun 2017

We grill high-end backup kid on its cloudy data protection stake

Cragdoo

You quote Veeam's own text, which at no point uses the phrase media server. If you're going to educate people at least use the correct terminology. The correct term you're looking for is Repository.

"Based on common industry parlance, the target-side Veeam Data Mover Service is referred to as a media server."

Not sure you can call a single service a server. A service, well lots of services actually, typically run on a server.

"However, while this might have been sufficient in an earlier generation, today’s RTOs and RPOs demand an application to be up and running from a fine-grained restore without the application user having to browse files and stitch things together."

Oh you mean like SQL database restores? https://helpcenter.veeam.com/backup/howtosql/how2_sql_restore_with_vesql.html

Restore database to the original or different location, to the state as in the selected restore point of SQL Server VM.

Restore database to the selected point in time.

Restore database to the state prior to undesired transaction table

I'll rescind the final statement, having read it again.

Cragdoo

"Veeam is based on a media server architecture where data is piped from VMWare (or equivalent servers) to target agents on the media server with attached storage. The deduplication is done partly on the source and partly on the target."

VMWare ...sigh and there is no such thing as a media server in Veeam

Here are the key differences with Veeam:

"All protected data must flow through Veeam media servers and this approach will not scale in a geo-distributed multi-cloud world. The media servers will become a choke point and the use of attached storage is 10 times more expensive in a cloud deployment model."

there it is again, media server ....doesn't exist, so will be difficult to compare.

"Veeam primarily deals with opaque blocks and files and thereby cannot provide fine-grained data protection or advanced data management services such as search."

Not true, Veeam has both application aware processing/explorers, to allow for fine-grained protection, and indexing on VMs for search functionality.

"While Veeam benefits from application transactional consistency from the use of VSS, this cannot be termed application-centric as Veeam does not have any insight into the structure of the data being protected."

Contradiction to the previous satement, now Veeam does have application transactional consistent backups??