Re: The Swiss are in it
Except for the fact that the UK is the fourth biggest contributor. A whopping 4 1/2p per person in the EU per day. Hardly a "milch cow" for the EU.
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1 Doesn't need to save anything just needs to break even.....
The UK cannot break even after leaving. There are 34 agencies that the UK will need to replicate or have other agencies take over the tasks. There's numerous issues from customs to pharmaceutical testing to maintaining alignment with EU regulations (and providing proof for exporters) so the UK can export to the EU (and now Japan, which has taken on EU regulations and standards, as have many other parts ot the world). There are 57 FTA's to be renegotiated all with possible penalties that the UK may have to pay. There's new infrastructure which will have to be built to accommodate being out of the EU.
2. That's why there are two years of negotiations before the full details will be agreed....
The first phase of negotiations has made almost no progress and it's 4 1/2 months into the negotiations. Now it looks as though the architecture for a trade agreement won't even be on the agenda until December.
Two years to untangle 40 years of integration, good luck. Lord Kerr the author of Article 50 has stated he made it an impossible thing to accomplish on purpose...
3. It will have some impact: reduction in "benefit tourism", and the UK won't be subject to EU quotas for non-EU immigration,..
Study after study shows that there is "no benefit tourism". The EU has no say and no quotas for non-EU immigration to the UK and never has. As to immigration and NHS failing to collect for use by EU immigrants (benefit tourism) blame that on Theresa May's failed Home Office IT projects (at a waste of almost £1 billion) to track immigration and use of Government services by immigrant. which has meant the UK can't apply EU law on freedom of movement or bill for NHS usage. What your complaining about is an "own goal". Nothing to do with the EU.
Yes the EU's about to implode which is why it's growing twice as fast as the UK. Austerity has nothing to do with the EU, it's based on each EU countries government's actions, as it is in the UK.
What you reference (Caesar to Napoleon...) is rubbish. Rome controlled most of Europe for almost 500 years and only failed due to outside invasions. What is different and why your point's misdirection is that the EU has not been created by military action but by EU nations voluntarily joining together. In fact it's so successful at it's primary purpose that it won the 2012 Nobel Peaxe Prize and Europa has had the longest period in it's history without a major war.
Yes 65 million negotiating with 350 million or 1.38 billion or 1.32 billion or 550 million or 300 million. I can see that level footing. EU standards and policies are now adopted and used around the world, So much to not being limited. Yes a sinking ship that's the largest market in the world.
Proof that that you're in the minority.
Theresa May losing her majority and becoming a minority government, when she asked the electorate to increase her mandate to make Brexit easier and the electorate rejected that.
What gives you the right to demand that i make Brexit work, when your poin sition has led to an abrogation of my rights without compensation or compassion. How do I trust you not to take away more of my rights, particularly as the current Government, with full knowledge, attempted to bypass democracy and Parliamentary Sovereignty and continues to force the issue (No Queen's speech in 2018 as there's no time for it but the PM can take an extra weeks holiday abroad?) with parliamentary tricks and bribes (£1.5 billion)
The referendum result was not legally binding so it's neither legitimate or illegitimate, so there was nothing to undo. As Parliament stated it was a non- legally binding advisory vote or in other words a Government sponsored opinion poll. Even the Supreme Court held that position. I think it's reasonable to moan when the Government undemocratically attempts to misuse "the Royal Prerogative" and discount Parliamentary Sovereignty.
Please provide the an outline for a workable solution to the NI/EU border question. A solution within the timeframe for Defra's problem multiplied across a government of 405,000 civil service employees whose IT systems now need to be completely revamped, rewritten, created, tested from scratch within 20 months, while dealing with a moving target and not even knowing the basis for the systems. This is a perfect storm of a disaster and any assistance to this unnecessarily self inflicted disaster is the equivalent of going below decks on the Titanic with a bucket and a sponge.
a) It's not going to end in a disaster, it already is one. (just look up VC funding issues in the UK due to Brexit).
b)I really don't care if those who are sponging water off the Titanic's decks "get pissed at me" just so long as they pay at least a minimum of twice my current rates (I like being paid significantly more than inept Theresa May) to waste my time on impossible and unrealistic projects, which have as much chance to succeed as did the Immigration IT initiatives that TM bolluxed and wasted almost £1 billion on.
If your not willing to work towards the solution (reversing Brexit), at least try not to be part of the problem (acting for Brexit). Please
Nissan in Sunderland is about 1/3 of the UK car industry. But it's not just Nissan, it's the Renault-Nissan Alliance, which turned down a French Government effort in December of 2015 to have them move their factory to France. Now they may change their mind if TM and co don't have a free trade/common market deal.