Posts by rakooi

Vanished global warming may not return – UK Met Office

Re: @ h4rm0ny

As a career scientist (bachelor of science degree in engineering from UC Berkeley; Ph.D. in oceanography from MIT) with a thorough grasp of research related to climate change and experience working side-by-side with climate scientists for decades (at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, Scripps Institution of Oceanography and UCSB), I personally know some of the 3 percent. While a few of them do not have good intentions (for example, there are some scientists in the 3 percent who also worked for tobacco companies to cover up the link between smoking and lung cancer), many among the 3 percent have their own scientific reasons for being doubters or “naysayers.”

Within the scientific community, there is an important role played by these contrarians, who continue to probe and ask tough questions about prevailing theories. Their role is especially critical where popular important theories are concerned, because these scientists push the rest of the science community to test and re-test their ideas using better data and methods. The end result is usually stronger scientific theories, which have been improved to agree with new information. However, some scientists get attached to the contrarian role and get a bit stubborn about moving on even after the evidence becomes overwhelming.

Besides the contrarians and those with private agendas, there is a third group in the 3 percent holding sincere beliefs that run counter to the scientific evidence. After all, scientists are people, too, and even though as a group they tend to be very rational, some may hold close to beliefs based on culture, religion or other influences

Re: record temperatures every year, who said it stopped and why the biased article title?

Even nations totally dependent upon oil....understand the Existential Threat of man made Global Warming.

Headlines:

"Islamic Leaders Call For Phasing Out Global Fossil Fuels"

by Jack Jenkins Aug 18, 2015 9:48am

***Warming atmosphere....warms the oceans leading, by itself, to raise sea levels ((with TRILLIONS of dollars of infrastructure; ports & port cities, RR, airports etc))

***Warming atmosphere....melts ice sheets and glaciers world wide and raising sea levels....threatening 100-150 million people who live within 3 feet of sea level.

Headlines:

" Friday, Jun 19, 2015 10:39 AM CST

Alaska’s climate hell: Record heat, wildfires and melting glaciers signal a scary new normal

The Arctic state is battling two major blazes against a backdrop of rapid warming "

***Warming atmosphere from man made global warming leads to vast areas of the earth turning into deserts....The Amazon is well on its way to being a desert....the Asian deserts are increasing....while Northern Africa is actually Greening A Bit.

Re: @ h4rm0ny

I have seen 4 Different surveys of Science WITH credentials....all point to a near unanimous oppinion that Trace Gases: C2, methane and water vapor work hand in hand.....much like glass in a greenhouse....to absorb solar energy and increase temperature.....Green houses, have ventilators to help with their heat......WE DO NOT have that on Earth....WE have to exercise SELF CONTROL to be good caretakers of God's creation.

My High School Science Teacher in 1964, Mr. Andrews gave a wonderful & spot on accurate lecture on CO2 buildup in the atmosphere, primarily from burning Carbon based Fuels.

Tumultuously changeable and unpredictable weather patterns, rising temperatures that Will melt ice packs and glaciers, world wide. These melts would lead to sea level rise threatening ports and millions of lives in port cities.

***And So it is.

And now we see, The Industry ABSOLUTELY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING to our well being and the health of our children...and successive generations...who WILL pay a price.

*****"Exxon's Own Research Confirmed Fossil Fuels' Role in Global Warming Decades Ago !

*****"Top executives were warned of possible catastrophe from greenhouse effect, then led efforts to block solutions.

"By Neela Banerjee, Lisa Song and David Hasemyer

Sep 16, 2015

"Exxon's

Richard Werthamer (right) and Edward Garvey (left) are aboard the

company's Esso Atlantic tanker working on a project to measure the

carbon dioxide levels in the ocean and atmosphere.

"The project ran from 1979 to 1982. (Credit: Richard Werthamer)

At a meeting in Exxon Corporation's headquarters,

a senior company scientist named James F. Black addressed an audience of powerful oilmen. Speaking without a text as he flipped through detailed slides, Black

delivered a sobering message:

****"carbon dioxide from the world's use of fossil fuels would warm the planet and could eventually endanger humanity."

"In the first place, there is general scientific agreement that the most likely manner in which mankind is influencing the global climate is through carbon dioxide release

from the burning of fossil fuels,"

Black told Exxon's Management Committee, according to a written version he recorded later.

It was July 1977 when Exxon's leaders received this blunt assessment, well before most of the world had heard of the looming climate crisis.

"A year later, Black,

******a top technical expert in Exxon's Research & Engineering division, took an updated version of his presentation to a broader audience.

******He warned Exxon scientists and managers that independent researchers estimated a doubling of the carbon dioxide (CO2) concentration in the atmosphere would increase average global temperatures by 2 to 3 degrees Celsius

******(4 to 5 degrees Fahrenheit), and as much as 10 degrees Celsius

(18 degrees Fahrenheit) at the poles. Rainfall might get heavier in some regions, and other places might turn to desert.

"Some countries would benefit but others would have their agricultural output reduced or destroyed," Black said, in the written summary of his 1978 talk.

"His presentations reflected uncertainty running through scientific circles about the details of climate change, such as the role the oceans played in absorbing emissions. Still, Black estimated quick action was needed.

******"Present thinking," he wrote in the 1978 summary, "holds that man has a time window of five to ten years before the need for hard decisions regarding changes in energy strategies might become critical."

"Exxon responded swiftly. Within months the company launched its own extraordinary research into carbon dioxide from fossil fuels and its impact on the earth.

******Exxon's ambitious program included both empirical CO2 sampling and rigorous climate modeling. It assembled a brain trust that would spend more than a decade deepening the company's understanding of an environmental problem that posed an existential threat to the oil business.

"Then, toward the end of the 1980s,

******Exxon curtailed its carbon dioxide research. In the decades that followed, Exxon worked instead at the forefront of climate denial.

******"It put its muscle behind efforts to manufacture doubt about the reality of global warming its own scientists had once confirmed. It lobbied to block federal and international action to control greenhouse gas emissions.

******"It helped to erect a vast network of distortion and misinformation"..

.fake 'think tanks' (100+) designed to sow disinformation.

....and Front Web Sites (1000+) to propagate the disinformation.

.....including fake head lines, fake science articles which have been published in major news outlets and an amazingly ugly phone and e-mail campaign sowing fear in the minds of 100's of Scientists around the world.

Re: Article based on report from a government agency

We have been in a Weak Solar Energy Cycle for nearly 60 years, perhaps you could explain why we have not had YOUR predicted cooling ?...or, as some of you fellow denialists are predicting, a mini ice age..... as we enter a cycle of increased sun spot and solar energy releases....PLUS we are entering a huge El Nino event.......

....WHAT POSSIBLE DATA do you have for a prediction of a cooling trend?

Instead we have had steadily increasing temperatures....no pause....higher temperatures

....

Point of fact, the LAST Global COLD record was set in 1911 !

My High School Science Teacher in 1964, Mr. Andrews gave a wonderful & spot on accurate lecture on CO2 buildup in the atmosphere, primarily from burning Carbon based Fuels.

Tumultuously changeable and unpredictable weather patterns, rising temperatures that Will melt ice packs and glaciers, world wide. These melts would lead to sea level rise threatening ports and millions of lives in port cities.

***And So it is.

And now we see, The Industry ABSOLUTELY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING to our well being and the health of our children...and successive generations...who WILL pay a price.

*****"Exxon's Own Research Confirmed Fossil Fuels' Role in Global Warming Decades Ago !

*****"Top executives were warned of possible catastrophe from greenhouse effect, then led efforts to block solutions.

"By Neela Banerjee, Lisa Song and David Hasemyer

Sep 16, 2015

"Exxon's

Richard Werthamer (right) and Edward Garvey (left) are aboard the

company's Esso Atlantic tanker working on a project to measure the

carbon dioxide levels in the ocean and atmosphere.

"The project ran from 1979 to 1982. (Credit: Richard Werthamer)

At a meeting in Exxon Corporation's headquarters,

a senior company scientist named James F. Black addressed an audience of powerful oilmen. Speaking without a text as he flipped through detailed slides, Black

delivered a sobering message:

****"carbon dioxide from the world's use of fossil fuels would warm the planet and could eventually endanger humanity."

"In the first place, there is general scientific agreement that the most likely manner in which mankind is influencing the global climate is through carbon dioxide release

from the burning of fossil fuels,"

Black told Exxon's Management Committee, according to a written version he recorded later.

It was July 1977 when Exxon's leaders received this blunt assessment, well before most of the world had heard of the looming climate crisis.

"A year later, Black,

******a top technical expert in Exxon's Research & Engineering division, took an updated version of his presentation to a broader audience.

******He warned Exxon scientists and managers that independent researchers estimated a doubling of the carbon dioxide (CO2) concentration in the atmosphere would increase average global temperatures by 2 to 3 degrees Celsius

******(4 to 5 degrees Fahrenheit), and as much as 10 degrees Celsius

(18 degrees Fahrenheit) at the poles. Rainfall might get heavier in some regions, and other places might turn to desert.

"Some countries would benefit but others would have their agricultural output reduced or destroyed," Black said, in the written summary of his 1978 talk.

"His presentations reflected uncertainty running through scientific circles about the details of climate change, such as the role the oceans played in absorbing emissions. Still, Black estimated quick action was needed.

******"Present thinking," he wrote in the 1978 summary, "holds that man has a time window of five to ten years before the need for hard decisions regarding changes in energy strategies might become critical."

"Exxon responded swiftly. Within months the company launched its own extraordinary research into carbon dioxide from fossil fuels and its impact on the earth.

******Exxon's ambitious program included both empirical CO2 sampling and rigorous climate modeling. It assembled a brain trust that would spend more than a decade deepening the company's understanding of an environmental problem that posed an existential threat to the oil business.

"Then, toward the end of the 1980s,

******Exxon curtailed its carbon dioxide research. In the decades that followed, Exxon worked instead at the forefront of climate denial.

******"It put its muscle behind efforts to manufacture doubt about the reality of global warming its own scientists had once confirmed. It lobbied to block federal and international action to control greenhouse gas emissions.

******"It helped to erect a vast network of distortion and misinformation"..

.fake 'think tanks' (100+) designed to sow disinformation.

....and Front Web Sites (1000+) to propagate the disinformation.

.....including fake head lines, fake science articles which have been published in major news outlets and an amazingly ugly phone and e-mail campaign sowing fear in the minds of 100's of Scientists around the world.