* Posts by Updraft102

1624 posts • joined 31 May 2015

Not a GNOME fan, and like the look of Windows? Try KDE Plasma or Cinnamon


Re: Similarly, if you have a touchscreen

"It's innate. Monkey see, monkey do."

Indeed, but if the monkey had seen the older monkey using a touchpad or mouse, younger monkey would be imitating that instead.

"Given that we are basically all now accustomed to finger-pokey phones and tablets (and, yes, cash machines and so on), then if it doesn't cost much more to put it on a laptop as well, why not?"

And there is the issue. For the record, I would not accept a touchscreen on a PC even if there was zero cost difference. It adds weight, screen reflection, and power consumption, and if I am not going to use it (and I'm not), why should I accept the burden?

The real cost, though, is not in the hardware. The cost is in the UI compromises that have to be made to accommodate touch. Windows went from having a very good GUI to that horrible "I don't know if I am a phone or a PC" mess that came with Windows 8, and it hasn't gotten much better in Windows 10.

Touch capability means the UI that is carefully crafted to work with a discrete pointing device is upended, and suddenly everything shifts to the touch paradigm, with its lack of hover effects, huge controls, and disappearing UI elements. What used to take a few clicks now takes many, and the useful toolbars that used to have single-step functionality for all your most-used features are hidden away behind hamburgers, and that lack of intuitive information scent slows you down, as does the greater effort to get to those things.

Everywhere you look, compromises are being made for touch that have negative effects for those of us who use pointing devices that actually make sense on a PC form factor (mouse or touchpad). Firefox recently got rid of its "compact" UI mode in favor of their touch-friendly, pixel-hogging versions, only to have the feedback be so resoundingly bad that they (in a rare turn of events) reversed themselves, but only if you edit the hidden pref to enable it first, and even then they felt the need to put "not supported" in the UI density dropdown, to passive-aggressively let you know You're Holding It Wrong. Ah, Mozilla... you can always be counted on to let your users know just how inconvenient they are.

That's the harm touch causes. A UI cannot simultaneously be optimal for touch and mouse, and if it tries to be, it will end up being crap on both of them. I am no Apple fan, but Tim Cook got it right when asked about this.

One thing I have always liked about my chosen desktop environment (KDE Plasma) is that it makes no compromises for touch, but there are signs that even that may be succumbing, with several changes coming along that are all about benefitting touch. If these things were beneficial to mouse users, one might wonder if they would have been added when mouse users were the only consideration.

How did you mourn Internet Explorer's passing?


I never did use IE, except to perform Windows Updates when that required IE. For browsing purposes, I went from Netscape (from the beginning through 4.x), then to Mozilla (now Seamonkey) 1.1, then to Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox once it was released, which I have used for the next couple of decades. Chrome and IE need not apply... no room for browsers from the corporate giants attempting to own the web.

Microsoft: You own the best software keyboard there is. Please let us buy it


I don't use keyboards that don't actually have keys or boards, but I have long been mentally asking MS to take my money for Streets and Trips. It was IMO the best of the consumer mapping programs for PC, and they won't take my money for that either. I use 2013, the most recent version, in a perpetual trial version in a VM (where I roll it back to the not-yet-run state after each use). It's the best I can do when the ability to pay for it does not exist.

Sick of Windows but can't afford a Mac? Consult our cynic's guide to desktop Linux


Re: Happy with Windows

Reading any given Windows forum reminds me of why I switched to Linux years ago, and why I haven't for a moment ever considered that it was the wrong decision.


Re: Control Your Own Upgrades

It doesn't really matter. Just grab one of the ones that frequently gets cited as good for beginners and get started. You can't begin to learn what your own preferences are in terms of a distro until you at least have a basis for comparison. You need a fixed reference point before you can start asking for changes that are relative. If you let yourself be paralyzed by indecision, you'll never get anywhere!


Re: Control Your Own Upgrades

Is this your home?


Re: Control Your Own Upgrades

22.04 has been flawless. 20.04 and 18.04 had their issues, but 22.04 is just fantastic IMO.


Re: Not be happy ... to reinstall my OS from scratch every year or two

Agreed. I used to do that in the Win 95 days. Since XP, my policy is one and done on installations.


Re: Not be happy ... to reinstall my OS from scratch every year or two

The downvotes are the opinions, clearly.


The Ubuntu flavors that have better desktops than the original (that is, all of them) aren't niche distros. They're still Ubuntu, and most of the help stuff still applies, just as it does in Mint. Kubuntu's the best one.

GTK? Get outta here with that... until it has a file load dlalog that a newbie can figure out how to paste into. They're not going to know about CTRL-L. They're not meant to by the devs, and that's the issue. If they think that something as basic as that is disposable (they call the CTRL-L thing an Easter egg, not a feature, if you can believe that), it's not fit for purpose.


Re: Control Your Own Upgrades

A second computer on hand?

There are nine in the room I am in right now! (No, fondleslabs do not count)

The sad state of Linux desktop diversity: 21 environments, just 2 designs


KDE Plasma 5 had a rough start, but it's fantastic now. GNOME 3, could not agree more.


"But there's a problem – there is almost no diversity of design."

There is a reason that Linux desktops are either configured by default, more or less, in a Mac pattern or a Windows pattern. The large majority of people starting on Linux come from Mac or Windows. People who know how to use Windows or Mac can sit down and know how to use Linux if it is in a pattern they recognize. It isn't a problem unless what you are looking for isn't available. If that's the case, then what, exactly, is it that you are looking for?

The Windows 95 pattern is one that works, and works well, for a large number of people. Changing things just because you want to be different doesn't accomplish anything, and just annoys people. If you have what you believe is a better idea, by all means, run it up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes. Ubuntu tried that with Unity, and it didn't catch on. Change that actually moves things forward is good, but change just because of some vague idea that things should be more different is not helpful, and is not welcomed by most users.

Every car out there has more or less the same user interface. The wheel in front of the driver is always there, and always has the same function. The pedals on the floor are always there, and work the same in every car. The turn signal switch is always in the same place, and each one has a handle you can pull to engage the parking brake too. They all have a horn, windshield wipers, headlights, heating systems, and the controls for them are usually quite similar in function and placement. There are really only two basic variations... automatic and manual transmission.

There are hundreds of models of cars, and there's no diversity of [UI] design!

(Of course, there is a ton of variety in car designs, but they all share the same UI patterns. Same's true of the Linux desktops, except for one thing: you generally can't reconfigure a car UI if you don't like it.)

"There are hotkeys for opening menus, navigating them, and closing them...

These work inconsistently across Linux desktops."

Wait, I thought you were saying that Linux desktops are all the same, and that's bad. Now you're saying they're all different, and that's bad too!

If you are a keyboard-centric user, then certainly you would want to use one of the desktop environments that has keystrokes for all of the important functions. If there are those that don't have a keybind for a given action, those are not a good fit for you. Perhaps they're not all the same after all!

Now, if those keystroke combos happen to be different than in Windows... If you were willing to learn a new way of using a PC than the Mac pattern or the Windows pattern, why is it too much to ask to learn a new way of using the keyboard? Or, conversely, if you expect your Windows experience as far as hotkeys to be carried over to Linux, what is wrong with most distros defaulting to the Windows UI paradigm so that others can make use of their Windows experience as well?


Re: The curse of overchoice

If they are that paralyzed by choice, how do they ever settle on anything?

There are tons of choices of cars. If you search "best car for" anything, you get tons of answers, often conflicting with one another.

There are tons of choices of smartphones, and for the cellular carriers they use.

When you are buying a house, or renting a flat, there are tons of choices, and each in a neighborhood, which is also its own choice.

If you need a recommendation on a blender, a smart thermostat, or any other such thing, it's just like anything else: you get a ton of choices and conflicting opinions about which is best.

Just about everything in life is like that. Yet the people muddle through, don't they? And in doing so, they learn about the thing in question and their own preferences therein. They learn what they like and don't like about a given car, and what things they want in the next one. They learn whether iOS or Android is for them, or if they would rather have a different carrier than the one they chose.

Sometimes it just takes jumping in and getting the learning out of the way. When you don't have any experience with a given category of product, this phenomenon is always going to be there. It's no different with a flavor of Linux, except that with Linux, you didn't have to pay anything to buy the thing you're no longer going to be using, nor will you have to pay for the next one.

Mozilla browser Firefox hits the big 100


Re: Firefox 100 also detects if your OS is set to a different language

Indeed it did. It was too close to what a lot of others have argued to immediately be recognized as such. Surely you've seen these people who think that the web should cater to their tiny handheld toys. But yes, you're right, I didn't read the message very carefully.


Re: Firefox is dead

95% in ~2002.


Re: Firefox is dead

As long as Firefox is maintained and updated, it is not dead. I don't care about market share. I upgraded from an OS that had 90% of the PC market to one that has 2% of the market in 2015, and that OS is by no means "dead."


Firefox remains the only usable browser on (non-MacOS) desktops and especially laptops, IMO. For all of the damage that has been done to it in the name of making it just as bad as Chrome, it still remains the only one I can stand to use. All the Chromium browsers have such horrible scrolling that stutters and judders all over the place, especially with touchpads, that I end up running right back to Firefox within the hour. I"ve tried to condition myself to Vivaldi, as it seems inevitable that Firefox will one day cross the line and remove something I will not live without, but they're just all so awful. All of the Chromium browsers suffer from this.


Re: Firefox 100 also detects if your OS is set to a different language

99% of monitors?

Phones are not monitors. They're also not 99% of web users.

The last time I tried to use a phone to browse, it was held the correct way, landscape.

Apple to bin apps that go three years without updates


"I can, today at least, install apps from the App Store for it - so they’re still handy devices for the kids to play with. I assume that this stunt will remove all that old software and, in doing so, turn all those old 32 bit devices into paperweights."

Apple wants you to buy a new one. Old ones being e-waste paperweights has long been part of Apple's business model.


Re: So you wrote it, and it works

Yes. You have to show due deference to Apple's self-described "innovations." How can your dusty old app show deference to these innovations when it was last updated before the innovations were innovated? To the dungeon with you!


Re: So you wrote it, and it works

Sometimes an app's developer has washed his hands of the whole thing, so there's not going to be any of that effort to keep the thing in the App Store, but it could still work just fine. The users who would benefit from having that option will be the losers here.

I know I am wary of software that is that old, and usually if it is that old with no updates, it has been abandoned or at least put on the very back burner by its developer, but sometimes it still works quite well.

Fedora starts to simplify Linux graphics handling


I don't use Fedora, but just about anything from the Core 2 Duo through Nehalem era would have a dual core, 2GHz plus CPU and not UEFI. Quite a few of those still in use.

Debian faces firmware furore from FOSS freedom fighters


"Probably the only real ROM in your computer is the main one on the motherboard – formerly the BIOS, and more recently UEFI – because without it, your computer won't boot. All the other firmware is loaded when it's needed."

Far from it.

My laptop has the system UEFI as you describe, but the SSD has its own non-volatile, persistent firmware too. So does the touchpad. So does the LCD panel. So does the external mouse I use when I don't want to faff around with the touchpad. So does the external keyboard. So does the printer. And if it was my desktop that has a discrete GPU card, it would have one as well.

I've updated the onboard firmware in all of these things. The LCD panel was the one that was the biggest surprise, but yeah, Dell put out an update for that too to solve a flickering panel issue.

The updater for the LCD panel, as well as the ones for the touchpad and the SSD, are in .exe format and do not have Linux versions, so I have an external (USB 3.1 10GBPS) SSD with Winders on it that I use for those rare occasions. For the USB devices, my VM is sufficient, so no need for the external SSD there.

Ubuntu 22.04 LTS arrives on everything from a 2GB Pi to AWS Graviton


What will be different about Canonical when it is floating?

Also... Gnome? Ew. Kubuntu's better.

The first step to data privacy is admitting you have a problem, Google


Re: "Let's tackle that by assuming good faith"

If it has no Google on it, it is no longer an Android phone, but a degoogled AOSP phone. It's the Google bits on top of AOSP that make it Android.

ITC judge recommends banning toner imports that infringe Canon's IP


Re: Interesting Article - Not Fact Checked

There was one paragraph right before the one you cited:

The profits on the initial hardware sale are generally very modest but the profits on the supplies that follow are usually very high. If the manufacturer loses market share on the supplies, then its business model will be compromised.

Without the downstream profits on ink and toner cartridges, there would be no incentive to invest in new hardware so innovation in new office printing devices would be significantly cut back.

There's another obvious solution. Change the business model in the first cited paragraph back to the way it used to be, where the profit was made primarily on the printer, not the supplies. They cite the business model as if it is somehow unchangeable and that anything that breaks it will have [insert parade of horribles here].

How experimental was Microsoft's 'experimental banner' in File Explorer?


Re: Solitaire & FreeCell

They're available for download if you don't have them handy. One of the Windows sites has them packaged for installation. Not sure which anymore, but it's all out there.


Re: Why is easy

The easiest way to get Windows games to work on Linux is to use the Steam client and simply tick the box to use Proton when running them. Far easier than setting it all up manually in WINE, though Lutris makes that a lot more straightforward. I find the hassle of playing Windows games in Linux to be preferable to the hassle of running Windows and putting up with all that Microsoft has become. If we were talking about something like Windows XP or 7, that would be another story, but that era (where Windows was more or less meant to serve the customers' needs) has come and gone.


None of these "oops" moments from Microsoft are mistakes. They are trial balloons.


Re: Usual answer

Installing Windows isn't any better. It's considerably worse, in my experience.

I have installed many distros of Linux on many PCs, and the experience is pretty universally what you ask for. Boot the USB, tell it where you want it to go, let it do its thing, reboot, use. Maybe you have some hardware where this is not the case, but I can't say anything about that, since I don't know what that is.

As far as the nVidia drivers: In Ubuntu, you can go to the Driver Manager in the system settings (think Control Panel) and click the radio button for the latest nVidia driver (the one marked "recommended") and hit Apply. Other than that, Linux is ready to go when the install finishes.

Getting Windows set up is a lot more work than that. The last time I tried it, the Windows installer immediately told me a driver for something was missing, and that I had to tell it where the driver was before the installation could proceed. What thing that needed a driver was it talking about? Was it something simple that I could ignore and get sorted once Windows had been installed, or was it something that would block the installation? It didn't say.

I tried to get it to continue without installing anything, but that didn't work. It was something that would block the installation, and Windows couldn't be bothered to tell me anything about what the item was. If I had the PCI ID, I could search it and find the driver. If I had the "pretty" name for the thing, I could do the same. I had a pretty good idea what it was getting at (my NVMe SSD), but at this point your wish for a simple, easy install had already been thwarted.

That was on a three year old laptop, not some bleeding-edge thing whose drivers had not yet trickled into the base Windows install. By contrast, I'd installed Linux on it three years ago, when it was brand new, and not had any such problems.

The same laptop came with a crappy one-channel wifi card, so a year or two ago I swapped that for an Intel Wifi-6 (AX200) card. Booted Linux as usual, and my wifi connection authenticated and worked as it always had, with no delays or issues.

Then one time I decided to boot into Windows 10 for some reason. I didn't use Windows for anything beyond testing to see how things work in Windows so I could compare it with Linux, so it was surely something like that.

I tried to go to a web site to download some thing, only to discover that the wifi no longer worked. Windows had no driver for my new wifi card. I had to go download the driver, but normally I do the downloads via wifi, which wasn't working, so it was an extra layer of irritation. Of course, I have an ethernet cable (and USB A and C ethernet NICs) handy, so I used that to go to the Intel site, find the driver, then download and install it.

In Linux, all I had to do was turn the PC on after installing the card.

One of the first things I have always done after any Windows installation is go to the Device Manager and look at all of the ! icons that represent components with no driver. Sometimes you can go to the PC manufacturer's site and get reasonably up to date drivers for all of the bits, but not always. If you want something more recent, it's always been necessary to hunt down the driver packages for each component and download and install them, one by one. Windows Update has never been able to find enough drivers to make everything work in any of the Windows installations I have done.

When I upgraded my Asus F8 series laptop to Windows 7, I had to hunt down the drivers on the web, since Asus only provided drivers for the OS they supplied on it, which was Vista. I got everything working, in some cases using drivers packaged by Lenovo and HP (since many OEMs don't issue their generic drivers to the public, and those were the drivers I happened to find from non-questionable sources), but it was a lot more work than setting Linux up on the same machine, where everything worked on the first boot.

That doesn't matter to most people, though, as they don't need to install Windows. It's already there. There are Linux laptops too... my Dell XPS 13 is one of those, having come with Ubuntu. I replaced that with KDE Neon (an Ubuntu descendant).


Re: Usual answer

KDE Plasma isn't a heavy monster anymore. It's been on a diet. I used it and it worked quite nicely on my 4GB (non-upgradeable) laptop with a "speedy" Pentium N4200 CPU (a derivative of Atom).

Germany advises citizens to uninstall Kaspersky antivirus


I find gaming on Linux using Wine and Proton to be just fine. I just deleted Windows 10 from my gaming laptop a few months ago, after never having used it in the two years I had the thing. I kept Windows around just in case I needed it, but I never did, and I eventually decided the 45 GB I had not already reclaimed for Linux (I'd shrunk the Windows volume a few times) was more important than the possibility of running Windows. It's just not necessary.

It's not at all true that no people who run Linux exclusively "happen to be a gamer."

Why Nvidia sees a future in software and services: Recurring revenue


Re: turn on car features, such as driver assistance, through subscription services.

My car rolled off the assembly line during the Bush administration. And no, not "Dubya!"


Re: turn on car features, such as driver assistance, through subscription services.

Best not get into any car that has the capacity for OTA updates, or any other kind of wireless connectivity. Just as I get my PC's updates if and when I have personally approved them for my own use, I expect (no, demand) the same level of control when my physical safety is in question. I don't inherently trust computers all that much... I have way too much experience with them for that.

My car is not all mechanical, but its only onboard computer (probably less powerful than an Apple II) is the ECU, and it is running the same firmware revision from which it came from the factory decades ago. It's the only firmware ever released for my model, and it's not flashable.

The worst case scenario for a malfunction of the unit would be that it makes the engine stop running, and I'd have to use the vacuum remaining in the brake booster to come to a stop and call a tow truck. The throttle, the steering, the gear shift, the clutch pedal, the brakes, all are mechanical only... no software involved. The only way anyone's going to delete features is if they break in and physically remove something that is unequivocally mine.

The idea of riding around in an automotive version of Microsoft's "Windows as a service" just gives me the willies. Thanks, but no thanks; I will take a hard pass on that.


Re: Things / Ideas

In the even better past, you could buy a car and there was no software.

Americans far more willing to hand over personal data


Re: My own survey

1,2: Agree.

3. Hell no.

4. Of course.

5. I know _of_ them. I wouldn't consider them friends.

6. Not worth my concern to think about one way or another.

7. Yes and yes.


Re: Just as I thought...

Some more stupid than others. But does your adage hold that Brazilians are far more stupid still?


Re: Really??

So I am guessing the American sample didn't consist of you, exactly.


Re: "73% of users worldwide use their Google or Facebook accounts to log into other apps"

If you have the tools to easily and properly use strong, unique passwords just for the sites that matter, they're already there for you to use for the rest of the sites as well. It's easier to have the password manager create and send a unique, 14 or more character password to a new site for which you are creating a new account than to go look up the password you happen to be using for some other login you don't care about and use that. Very seldom is the password that is generated rejected for not following the rules of whatever site. It ticks all the boxes, and the only rejection would be from a site that demands less, not more-- and in that case it's easy enough to take the generated password and remove the offending bits by hand.

I've never seen most of my passwords, let alone typed them, and I am not about to begin now. It would take more work to do what you describe, not less.

Nobara Project brings whole bunch of extensions so you can frag noobs on Fedora 35


Re: Wine

Maybe you should try that... you might be surprised! I have tried WINE with something as complex and resource hungry as games (namely games themselves), and it works a treat. Over the past 6.5 years I have been using Linux as my only PC OS, I have racked up hundreds of hours in WINE on various titles, and it works very well.

If you get a game running under WINE to your satisfaction, there is no need to upgrade the WINE version on that title. Use what you know works! This is where Lutris becomes such an indispensable tool. You can assign any title (and it does not need to be games; I run other Windows software in WINE too) to any WINE version, WINE prefix, etc, easily. You don't just have to install one WINE version in Linux and hope that works for everything.

You can also just run the games from Steam (even if they did not originate there) and use Proton. I have never done that with anything that did not originate with Steam, but I do have a bunch of Steam titles (for Windows) that use Proton and work as seamlessly in Linux as they would from the Steam client in Windows. So much so that on my gaming laptop, I deleted the Windows partition about a year ago. I'd never used it for gaming or more serious work, but it came with the unit, so I kept it just in case until then.


Re: The Second...

I play many Windows games that are DirectX only on Linux, and with frame rates that are on par with Windows, and better in some cases.

KDE Community releases Plasma 5.24: It's eccentric, just like many old-timers


"So, is it just the stupid menu button only, or can you still disable it and use something useful?"

You can definitely fix it and return to a useful setup. There's nothing particularly modern about the hamburger menu... it's a kludge for phones (toys) that has been mistaken for modernity and ported inappropriately to real computers by people who know nothing of UI design or usability, but who want things to conform to their particular view of what is "pretty" or "modern."

Three US states plus Washington DC sue Google for using UI design 'dark patterns' to harvest your location


Re: Secrets -- or turn to Custom-ROM

The device does not need to be rooted to run a custom ROM. Each time it is updated, it has to be rooted again.

Hasn't been a problem for me, though, and I use banking apps from three different banks. I use a custom rom with Micro-g. It's rooted with Magisk.

Amazon tells folks it will stop accepting UK Visa credit cards via weird empty email


Re: My email wasn't blank...

400% increase, not 1.2%. 1.2% / 0.3% = 4, so 400% increase.

Microsoft's problem child, Windows 11, is here. Will you run it? Can you run it? Do you even WANT to run it?


Windows doesn't measure up to KDE Plasma by a long shot. I want to do things the way I want... if I didn't, I probably would have gone to "you're holding it wrong" Apple. Using WIndows feels antiquated and annoying by comparison.

Android apps? Been running those on Linux for a while now. Can easily be done on Windows (all versions) too. It's a cute feature that saves the few minutes of installing an emulator, but how about that old feature people have been requesting for 6 years now... full update control? How about a master OFF for telemetry on all versions (and not that malicious compliance thing that enterprise versions have that doesn't even turn it all the way off)?

How about letting the user decide what colors will be used? Not just one of "light" or "dark" mode, but anything else, the way Windows had from the beginning through XP, and partially in Vista and 7 (if one used basic themes)? I've never liked dark mode, but white backgrounds are not compatible with my eyes. It's such a basic thing, but it's missing.

The march toward the phone-oriented "settings" rather than the superior Control Panel continues, even though MS gave up on phones. So few options compared to what there used to be, except sometimes it tosses you back to the good old Control Panel applets anyway (so what's the point?).

Windows 10 is the OS that made Windows 8 look good to me. Yes, it had a goofy UI at first, but it was fixable with aftermarket mods. Windows 10... it's a lost cause, especially when a new version comes along every 6 months, and you have to redo all the modifications.

So now there is Windows 11, and the additional restrictions and deleted features makes Windows 10 look good, which is a very impressive feat in itself.

Windows 8 was when Windows jumped the shark, and it's only gotten worse.


"As of yesterday there was Windows 10, which has evolved into a pretty good platform over the years."

No, it hasn't. Everything that made people avoid it six years ago is still in it. It still forces updates. It still has no OFF for telemetry. It still is a vehicle for whatever cockamamie scheme for monetization MS can come up with. It still can't decide if it is an OS for phones or for PCs, even years after MS quit with the phone efforts.

Windows 11 isn't any better, and is in some ways worse. I left Windows in late 2015 because of where "MIcrosoft wanted to go today" with my PC, and I sure don't see any reason to come back now. Win 11 is just another confirmation that my move to Linux was the right one.

Windows 11 will roll out from October 5 as Microsoft hypes new hardware


Re: Eh?

Interesting how the horrible Windows 10 that had everyone all up in arms (and rightly so) has suddenly become the "good old" Windows 10, now that an even worse Windows has darkened our collective doorstep. I wonder how bad Windows 12 will have to be to make Windows 11 look reasonable by contrast!

Microsoft does and doesn't want you to know it won't stop you manually installing Windows 11 on older PCs


"improve security by, among other things, encouraging password-less authentication "

And I suppose they want to increase automotive security by encouraging the removal of the brake calipers.

Start or Please Stop? Power users mourn features lost in Windows 11 'simplification'


Re: HCI - we've heard of it

Because minimalistic user interfaces are so coool and user friendly to people who try the thing out in the Apple store (and because MS just copies everyone else these days). Why, it has no controls at all! That's so friendly and non-intimidating looking! I must have it!

It's the same philosophy as GNOME. Assume every user is an imbecile who is afraid of computers and has exactly zero experience using anything electronic. Design everything around this person, and ignore that the person will stop being a complete neophyte soon after procuring the device and will spend the rest of their life as a non-neophyte that finds the "unintimidating" UI hopelessly sparse.


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