* Posts by bombastic bob

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Developing for Windows 11: Like developing for Windows 10, but with rounded corners?

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Re: "Rounded geometry is a design element that traverses every corner of Windows 11"

In another language his last name 'Baca' sounds like the word for "idiot". Yes, it's the first thing that entered my head.

Then again, in yet another language from the same region of the world, my IRL first name sounds like the word for "simple" which COULD mean 'idiot'...

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Ill be the judge of that... (apostrophe left out for effect)

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Re: New here

thanks for quoting me. But I think you missed the point. Linux is STILL a "desktop OS" because of how it's used. Windows is what it is because Micros~1 MADE it that way. And Micros~1 *STILL* does NOT respect what CUSTOMERS want, which is to have their OS be what THEY want it to be, and *NOT* what Micros~1 wants them to HAVE (by force, if necessary).

Those complaints would disappear if Micros~1 would just STOP being so TYRANNICAL (one size fits all users, no exceptions), and *ALLOW* *USER* *CUSTOMIZATION* *AGAIN*, including the COMPLETE removal of spyware, NOT being forced to update, the Windows 7/XP/2000/9x appearance, "control panel only" vs Schizoid-Settings, and, my favorite, 3D SKEUOMORPHIC (or for the FLATTY fans, all 12 of them, that too. as an option, NOT default).

Micros~1 lost touch with what sold Windows "as a desktop" back in the 90's. It had been available since the mid 80's, but nobody really wanted it. It wasn't until it went 3D SKEUOMORPHIC and had built-in games like Solitaire that people jammed the stores wanting to buy it. Micros~1 forgot that.

At first, they EMBRACED what the public wanted.

Then, they EXTENDED it to become 2k and XP, F'd up with Vista, but restored most of that in 7.

Then they EXTINGUISHED the best parts, until it became 10.

Whereas with OSS desktops, you have absolute FREEDOM as to how you want it to look and behave... by forking your own version, if there's not already enough to choose from.

And, worth mentioning, I get MORE work done using FreeBSD or Linux than I've ever been able to do with Windows, even though I nearly always install Cygwin, which WSL has tried to compete with for some reason, I might add... ANYWAY, I somewhat-recently brought a ~17 year old laptop into a new contract where they had no Linux machines available, even though I had a W10 machine available to me, and was able to work FASTER and GET MORE DONE even though it only had 500mb of RAM and a 1Ghz processor - so 2 days later I was handed a spare W10 CPU box and I took it home and put Linux on it for them (installer running while I played games), brought it back the next day, and used it for on-site dev work for months, and it is still running at the moment for remote-in things. WSL on the W10 box did not help much at all.

Yes. Linux _IS_ a "desktop OS" when it is used that way. And more.

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Re: I'm impressed .... NOT !!!

but if they hype the marketing for LONG ENOUGH, they can announce something new+shiny (that's really just trivial) with great fanfare like it's truly an epic event, with shock and awe and hordes of newly converted fanboi customers stampeding to the local retailer to purchase it...

(Or so it MIGHT be if they MADE IT LOOK LIKE WINDOWS 7 and got rid of "SETTINGS" and the SPYING and the ADS, though keeping the 'rounded corners' would be allowable)

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Hubble memory errors persist despite NASA booting long-idle backup payload computer

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Re: Have they tried

yeah those "El Cheapo" power supplies never last very long, do they?

Maybe they could blow it all out with some canned air, and put a desktop fan on it to help keep it cool...

The world has a plastics shortage, and PC makers may be responding with a little greenwashing

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Re: Define 'plastic'

I've been using PLA to 3D print things. PLA has the advantage of being made from plants [as I recall] and is very biodegradable. Downside, it's biodegradable, meaning it'll fall apart after a while. But for testing designs, it works pretty well.

An online search shows that there are PLA food containers and single-use water bottles out there. This is definitely a good step in the right direction, in my bombastic opinion.

In the mean time there seem to be a lot of electronics recyclers. Occasionally they'll pick stuff up that you put out on the curb (at least in my area). So when the manufacturer cannot use PLA (due to lack of durability or some other reason) those can still be recycled through the usual places. And if it's convenient and easy, EVERYONE will recycle [more ore less]. In my bombastic opinion, at least.

So for the purposes of plastic pollution of the ocean and recycling plastics to make ABS and other structural things, I will assume that PLA is not included in that particular definition.

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Re: The world has plenty of plastic

Unless I'm horribly mistaken, the USA and most western nations do NOT dump plastic into the oceans, at least not deliberately. This has been the case for DECADES as I understand it, starting with things like THIS.

I wonder who DOES dump all of that plastic?

If it's collecting in mats in the ocean on its own, so much the easier to dredge it. I wonder how much money you'd make recovering it... (or maybe just a worth-while charity that cleans the oceans up)

In any case, I'm of the opinion that when recycling is free and easy, EVERYONE will do it. I put the blue can out every other week, and rarely need to put the other one out. The fast majority of household trash (for me) is of the 'recyclable' variety - cardboard, plastics, etc. and that all goes into the blue can.

‘What are the odds someone will find and exploit this?’ Nice one — you just released an insecure app

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Re: Shift left? shift right?

i actually thought of a project management tool, like the old "Microsoft Project" which may or may not still exist. Shift to the left, get it done earlier. To the right, it's delayed. Something like that.

Managers like gantt charts, they can slide 'em around like those birthday party puzzles we played with as kids, and announce stuff in meetings (like new deadlines) based on their sliding things around.

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Re: Shift left? shift right?

Rocky Horror - and now you reminded me of the funniest thing the audience says:

"Meatloaf again? We had Meatloaf LAST week!"

(back in the 80's when midnight showings of RHPS were 'a thing')

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I can think of a few examples where shipping something "with a vulnerability" might be just fine. Here's one that I think epitomizes what I mean:

Let's say you ship embedded devices with Raspberry Pi and RPi OS on them, running your software and a touch screen interface. This is pretty popular from my observation.

You don't allow ssh or listening network services (except by using a special maintenance feature from the UI that end-users normally do not know about) but since the device DOES need to phone home to a server on the network, it has access to one. And the user/password is well known (say the default RPi user/password). because the screen logs in automatically on boot. Is THIS insecure? Or, because there are no listening services (and no way to add them via the UI) it's "secure enough" ?

Then you think about whether the latest polkit zero-day is worth LOTS OF EFFORT to patch right now because oh-my-god-it-can-be-exploited, or whether it can wait for the next round of maintenance updates several months from now... because there are NO listening ports! And, you have thousnds of pre-imaged SD cards on order, and you're shipping right now, and you STILL have SD cards that have not yet been delivered (in the pipeline), and you JUST heard of this vulnerability LAST WEEK.

and because of the nature of the devices, you don't want them using automatic package updates and ending up with the kinds of problems you see when a windows system failed to boot after doing this sort of thing... and the screen displays the error instead of the user interface. And so on. [controlled updates with a USB or download or by replacing the SD are acceptable because they've been tested]

Anyway, that throws a wrench into the works ("shipping with a vulnerability"), but in the case I outline, the system config already mitigates the vulnerabilities you need to patch at some point. If you can't ssh in, and can only view a UI that consists of pages written by the manufacturer [no external links], and it's not listening to incoming network traffic, nearly every possible vulnerability has been "dealt with". And exploiting a zero day (like with polkit) would require physical access. Might as well take the SD card out and muck with it from a laptop.

(yeah I'm kinda working on something similar to this)

BOFH: Oh for Pete’s sake. Don’t make a spectacle of yourself

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Re: Wow

I'll just take the old battery powered strobe-light power supply and the conductive 'Esc' key - along with a nice grounding mat to fit the entire desk surface.

Russia spoofed AIS data to fake British warship's course days before Crimea guns showdown

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Re: Diplomacy

He simply does not realise care that being on good terms with the west would do his country a LOT of good.

fixed it for ya. He's dictator for life (like Xi) after all.

Good job for the RN at dealing with this in the smartest way possible.

/me imagines Putie doing a "Line of Death" like Gaddafi. That would be both sad AND laughable at the same time.

What you need to know about Microsoft Windows 11: It will run Android apps

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no thanks. I still do NOT want it.

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Re: Limited compatibility

remember the worldwide RAM shortage when Windows '95 released?

graphics cards and TPM modules. Oh, joy.

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Re: So if it needs TPM 2.0

will we be able to run it in a VM?

VMWare appears to have TPM virtualization. VirtualBox does NOT, as far as I can tell.

In my search on this subject I have run across one or two TPM software solutions, particularly one on github.

I would expect VirtualBox to support this eventually, but it could end up being a PAYED ENHANCEMENT of some kind (and may not be supported on Linux, and PROBABLY NOT on FreeBSD). But we shall see. If the tech needs ilcensing, money will end up changing hands.

needless to say, if TPM 2 is required, and I can't run it in a virtualbox VM, I will NOT be testing it.

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can't understand why things have to change.

"have to change" - WHY is that exactly?

the 'end all'/'be all' is NOT the OS, but rather getting your work done and/or having fun.

Any "have to change" that GETS IN THE WAY OF THAT is COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY and should NEVER happen.

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Re: So, SatNad...

oh do they want a CELL PHONE NUMBER now JUST to use a computer? As WELL as a cloudy login? Yeah no TRACKING there... no linking your cell phone to online (and offline) activities or anything.

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Re: TPM

so they don't want anyone running it in a VM, then? At least, not with VirtualBox...

(as far as I can tell VBox does not support TPM emulation, though it appears that VMWare _DOES_)

I guess this means I will NOT be trying out their new OS. Not like I *really* wanted to, though... (the last time around was JUST! TOO! DISAPPOINTING!!!)

Apple scrambles to quash iOS app sideloading demands with 'think of the children' defense

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or think of the developers HAVING TO PAY A TOLL to get cert signing or DRM tagging or whatever OTHER "security" scheme Apple comes up with, if they can't simply use the store to filter out what they do not like and get "a piece of the action" at the same time...

Side-loading MUST become possible WITHOUT certs and DRM crap. Otherwise it will be POINTLESS with Apple as the only gatekeeper. This is most important for independent developers and FOSS.

(Saying that removing Apple's exclusive gatekeeping would somehow HARM developers is BACKWARDS)

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Re: Apple English

"it was decided" a while back that the nicname should be "Micros~1", remember?

Three things that have vanished: $3.6bn in Bitcoin, a crypto investment biz, and the two brothers who ran it

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Re: Doubt they'll enjoy themselves

If you do not mind living in a 3rd world country where paying off politicians keeps you out of trouble, $1b each would probably go a VERY long way. Buy your own compound, or your own island, hire locals as guards in a paramilitary kind of way, private airstrip and aircraft, ship things in from all over the world, and so on.

Several nations in the equatorial and south pacific region come to mind, as do many Latin American countries. Even Cuba. And since they're from Africa, perhaps a few places on THAT continent wouldn't mind having them, either.

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Re: Sometimes, I just can't believe the gullibility of some people.

*facepalm*

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Re: How untraceable, exactly?

a dodgy character regardless of where your money really came from

A quicky online search shows that there are a number of Swiss bitcoin exchanges. I expect it would be possible to trade the $2b or so in (de-valued) bitcoin for something a bit more "depositable" in a Swiss bank account, and hide your money the same way that "a dodgy character" would have done it over the last century or so.

I'm not saying that Swiss authorities could not somehow trace that it was done, or where the perps were when they did it, but once it becomes hard cash and gets deposited in a bank in Switzerland, it may become extremely difficult to trace.

Similarly for Caiman Islands and other "hide your money" places around the world.

However, like many have already mentioned, crooks make mistakes and that's how they get caught.

Any global bounty hunters out there looking for a reward to catch them? I'm sure the investors wouldn't mind forking over a percentage to get the rest of their money back.

Intrepid squid mission may help in kraken riddle of why zero-g makes astronauts sick

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Re: Water in 0g

as I understand it surface tension on water tends to make it form a ball in 0g. So that would be relatively free of air bubbles, though oxygenating the water might be challenging... (might be fun to see how they solved that)

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Re: Clothes washing

when you consider how dry cleaning machines and front-load washers work, it shouldn't be THAT hard to design a front-loading spinny washing machine with sufficient artificial gravity to wash clothes... and a hyper-efficient extraction process that wastes very little water [and dries at low temperatures].

I'd expect the gunk and lint would end up in a disposable filter of some kind, and anything stinky could be burnt off by passing it through high temperature heating elements in the presence of air. [in the submarine world, that is called a 'burner']

where's the X prize for this? [I need to enter]

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Re: UMAMI

need to send up tempura batter, a zero-G fryer, and cocktail sauce to go with it (-ika)

Facebook granted patent for 'artificial reality' baseball cap. Repeat, an 'artificial reality' baseball cap

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Re: "hats solve the problem presented by AR glasses"

I had considered a motorcycle helmet with built-in gadgetry

(but I'd just build it for me)

prior art: space helmets

'Set it and forget it' attitude to open-source software has become a major security problem, says Veracode

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Re: It is not just open source

Python tries to solve the "3rd party component" problem with pip and virtual python environments.

It does not always work, however... (my experience dealing with DJango a few years ago proves this)

[I had to mirror a broken DJango system onto multiple Linux platforms in order to fix it, and "bleeding edge" version of some things just outright failed on some systems, but worked on others. Go fig.]

USA's efforts to stop relying on Russian-built rocket engines derailed by issues with Blue Origin's BE-4

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Yeah, the education topic is pretty *HOT* right now, especially in one part of the state of Virginia. I'll avoid going beyond 'a mention' in this forum so as not to derail the thread.

Some of what you say may be true, but it would seem to me that companies will just build products to make money and as such they will go with a market that has a future in order to have growth potential, enough to keep them from going bankrupt along the way. The "Find a Need and Meet It" mentality drives most of the successful companies. There are still enough smart people to make the engineering happen, and even poorly educated employees can be trained by the companies themselves, if needed.

Bezos' company just needs their engine to outperform the Russian one, that's all. "Resolve the Contradictions" and they'll get there. They probably just don't have the decades' worth of experience to get it done quicker. But they will. Eventually.

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Re: Capitlaism

30 years ago 'internationalization' was a big thing, other than for military and national security purposes. True it was short-sighted in light of the more recent behavior of those nations we were trying to normalize relations with, specifically Russia and China, but optimism about the future of the world was high, post Cold War.

Reality basically did not work out *quite* the way they saw things through their rose colored glasses.

In any case, getting U.S. companies to build engines better than the Russian ones just needs enough R&D time+money. And, are the Russian engine makers designing the next generation to remain competitive, or just sitting on what they've got and milking it for all it's worth?

It's 2021 and a printf format string in a wireless network's name can break iPhone Wi-Fi

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Re: How wide?

not just width but unspecified parameters too?

Like "%.*g" repeated a bunch of times...

To CAPTCHA or not to CAPTCHA? Gartner analyst says OK — but don’t be robotic about it

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Re: Street signs

I think Canada still paints their cop cars yellow, like U.S. cabs.

And the crosswalks they show are usually the striped kind like on that one Beatles album cover [those weren't painted like that in the USA until very recently, and not consistently either]

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Re: Causes problems when travelling

a while ago I needed to submit something to an out of state court for a case I'm indirectly a party to. i tried to use e-mail to contact the appropriate person to send the info to [basically proof that I received the paperwork]. But the e-mail form had a captcha that simply would NOT work (even when run in the special context using chromium, like I usually resort to when such things are needed).

So I dug around some more on the court's web site, and found a FAX number, and I FAX'd it, by placing the item in question on the glassy copy/scan part of the fax/scan/copy/printer I bought a while back, and dialing the phone number. THAT worked. (it's why I keep that second land line).

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Re: Complex CAPTCHA

yeah the ambiguous squares are the ones that get you a "try again" half the time, along with the faded/shadowy/grainy/too-tiny-too-see ones that might contain bicycles...

so it's "roll the dice" and hope the next one (after the 'try again') isn't one of those "slooowly fade out, slooowly fade in" types that *REALLY* irritate me...

(guess how I voted - see icon)

VMs were a fad fit for the Great Recession. Containers’ time has finally come

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Re: I wish I could find the cartoon on the origins of containers

couldn't you do the same thing by imaging the dev's computer into a VM?

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Re: Tempting

(re: commentard's name 'Admiral Grace Hopper')

I actually saw (the original) Grace Hopper when she was a Captain, at the Orlando RTC [she was in charge of the recruit training base as they trained the women there and it made sense]. Didn't say hello but may have saluted her (can't recall exactly).

Thinking of commentards, El Reg _could_ review some of the better ones and see if any of those tend towards meeting their selection criteria. No doubt there are zillions of examples. Or maybe they did already and none were deemed 'worthy' enough for a job offer in an e-mail

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Re: The dirty secret of FOSS

I would not consider that "exploitation" but rather 'participation'. FOSS development is usually voluntary, and I know I've volunteered here and there with various submissions, patches, etc.. [I think of it as 'giving back' or 'my license fee' for all of the FOSS stuff I use daily]. I'm sure that corporations also pay people to do the same thing for the same reasons, especially if they are staking some of their income on a particular project.

I think you may have an inaccurate perspective on the concepts of revenue, cost, profit, and loss. Perhaps a few years doing data analysis and reports for the accounting staff at a large company might help you get a better perspective (weekly internal financial reports, excess and obsolete inventory analyses, and ad-hoc cost reduction analyses, for example - how much DOES that engineering change cost and when is the best time to re-tool or switch out parts - that sort of thing).

Windows 11: Meet the new OS, same as the old OS (or close enough)

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Re: LSW

IRL this really happened:

* kid has guinea pig as pet

* kid sees something in pet store that says 'cat' on it, wants a 'guinea pig' one, gets bratty about it

* I suggest taking the 'cat' one and crossing the word 'cat' out with a marker and writing 'guinea pig'

* kid stops being bratty, doesn't bring it up again

(everything I ever wanted to learn, I learned by watching 'Monty Python's Flying Circus')

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Re: Not completely

Skype keeps re-installing itself

so, not "applications as a service", but more like "unwanted applications as a VIRUS"

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Re: Keeping up with the Jone ... er Jobs

it would definitely have to use Marshall amplifiers (they go up to '11')

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Re: Not all is well

I do not believe it has always been this way. The biggest problem most likely isn't CreateFile() itself, but the various 'Shell' versions of things that open files, or ".Not" itself. They like to get all "object-ie" and do a bunch of potentially unnecessary stuff up front, rather than as needed, and my observations concluded that this is PRIMARILY the source of file system and application startup slowness.

One of the worst offenders is the 'File Open' dialog box. Strangely, in Linux and BSD (when you use gnome or mate) it has similar problems, since the gnome and mate 'file open' seems to want to do previews, which suffers from the same *kinds* of performance issues. Granted, it's FASTER in the POSIX+X11 world, but it's EVEN FASTER if you fill the list with files FIRST, and then background query them when users need a preview (or any other details about that file), and NOT read EVERY! SINGLE! FILE! to discover its type BEFORE or WHILE filling a list of files in a directory. [that would be the 'anal-retentive-object-oriented' way to do it, where EVERYthing is ALWAYS 'an object' whether it makes sense or NOT]

So I'd say the SAME *kinds* of bad programming practices exist in Linux and BSD ports/packages, at least as far as the desktop environment is concerned. And this easily points out WHAT and WHY.

(now, where's my clue-bat, I need to 'educate' some junior-level programmers)

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YES. *ALL* of what you said.

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Re: What is an OS for?

the OS doesn't need to be the window manager as well.

Nor does the built-in window manager need to be 2D FLATTY FLATASS FLATSO (with NO other choice available), instead of the 3D Skeuomorphic appearance that actually SOLD WINDOWS TO THE PUBLIC in the FIRST PLACE (remember 2.x vs 3.0?), simply because a handful of PFY "engineers" at Micros~1 (along with Sinofsky and the inventor of 'the ribbon') suddenly *FELT* it should... (and would NOT backtrack on the obvious mal-design, even though our W.I.M.P. desktops ARE STILL NOT PHONES).

Nor should it take away all of the capabilities that had actually SOLD the previous releases to the public (like end-user customization and built-in games and utilities that DO NOT THROW ADS AT OR SPY ON YOU). Arguably, these '7 and earlier' features sold new computers FASTER than the "more 'modern' OS" machines sitting NEXT to them on the shelves. (I recall MANY El Reg articles that pointed such things out, in the 2014-sh time range, THIS being one of them)

Nor should it sling ads, spy on you, require an on-line cloudy logon (to avoid the strong-arming or access any previously included options), FORCE you to update (or download updates) when you do not want it to, And so on.

From the article: Windows 10 is so much better than its antecedents that it has stopped being a problem.

No. It is SUPPORTED. "Better" would be Windows 7, XP, and 2000. But THEY are not SUPPORTED any more...

Racist malware blocks The Pirate Bay by tampering with victims' Windows hosts file

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Re: Eh?

"My own ISP, est. 1982[0], has been asked by a couple of state and local agencies (and a couple of Universities) to block specific things over the years. I told 'em to fuck off each time."

(needs no further comment)

Mayflower, the AI ship sent to sail from the UK to the US with no humans, made it three days before breaking down

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It reminds me of too many science fiction dystopias and they never turn out well

and one particular Dr. Who episode... (the yellow smiley button on your back isn't smiling, oops)

and when the building and everything in it (that isn't you) is a networked bunch of nanobots, they always know whether or not you are smiling...

Microsoft: Try to break our first preview of 64-bit Visual Studio – go on, we dare you

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No wonder developers have no passion for the Windows platform anymore.

I thought that '.Not' followed by C# (C-pound) and then "UWP" (and its predecessors) and all of the moving target "new shiny" things (that totally lost long term support) is wot dun that...

at least, for me.

(I just wanted to stick with C++, MFC, Win32, and the DevStudio 98 environment where things were becoming easy and familiar and I could pound out applications and libraries in no time at all...)

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I liked VS98 better than the current incarnations - better keystroke navigation, no need to remove hand from keyboard and 'mouse' something if you knew the hot keys [especially important in the dialog editor]. Something like THAT in 64-bit would make me a LOT happier.

I think I'll get the preview anyway, and the full version when it's out. Maybe I can try installing under Wine...

Still, any level of GIT integration might make it useful, if for no other reason than installing for clients to view things with. And maybe I can check out how the extensions work, now. Haven't tried anything with that for over a decade.

eh, can't hurt to look, right?

BOFH: When the Sun rises in the West and sets in the East, only then will the UPS cease to supply uninterrupted voltage

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Re: Reminds me...

some cost accountant needs to factor in the COST OF INCOMPETENT MICRO-MANAGEMENT ON OVERALL PERFORMANCE when upper management tries to determine what speed settings to use on the equipment.

That vs the cost of an industrial "accident" that prevents such micromanagement from being implemented... [boss, the window is over here - check out the view!]

Roger Waters tells Facebook CEO to Zuck off after 'huge' song rights request

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Re: Facebook will sue

they _are_ the wall.

and their users are just bricks in that wall. Unimportant, identical, mook-like bricks with no individuality and complete obedience. Just sitting there being monitized and holding up the big FB wall...

(I wonder if Zuck realizes the irony of that particular song in an ad related to one of his companies...)

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Re: Not Now John

I smell a PARODY!!

"We don't need no advertising"

"We don't need no social control"

"The dark side of the creepy tracking"

Hey - ZUCKHEAD - LEAVE US ALL ALONE!!!