* Posts by bombastic bob

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Now Europe wants a four-million-quid AI-powered lie detector at border checkpoints

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Re: What are they going to train it with?

how about "the caravans" currently traversing Mexico?

just have it focus on the key words and tricky phrases they're taught by the coyote's and "advocate" lawyers. Some good "lie" examples there, at any rate.

troll icon, because, obvious

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"..and the anal probe, fecal sample, urine sample, saliva sample, blood sample, and one of your kidneys..."

you forgot one.

This revolution will not be televised – but it will be sanctioned: Googlers walk out over 'sex pest' executive scandals

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"Feeling Googly"

/me starts humming the '59th street bridge' with a slight lyrics change...

na-na na-naaah nah nah nah... Feeling Googly

(I should be careful with the word 'feel' in there, and Google won't pay me when they use it for advertisement)

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FAIL

yes, Google discriminates - remember last year?

"only discriminates on opportunity according to how able you are."

except for AFFIRMATIVE ACTION 'discrimination', such as what James Damore pointed out a year or so ago... (and was apparently FIRED for doing it)

Fox News Article

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WTF?

Re: Googlers walk out over 'sex pest' executive scandals

From the article: "male executives accused of sexual harassment."

Has anybody ELSE asked: How many of these 'accused male executives' were actually GUILTY of what they were accused of? (enough to fire them for it, at any rate)

The million dollar golden parachutes were probably CHEAPER than the potential legal costs involved, regardless of actual guilt, from ALL perspectives.

US Republicans bash UK for tech tax plan

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Re: International norms

"all the big companies move their profits to tax havens and pay very little tax anywhere in the world."

Wouldn't ANYONE who COULD do this, do this?

Yeah I'll just VOLUNTARILY bend over and take it, enjoy it, etc. because taxes are used SO wisely by governments. Hell, just write a check for EVERY SPARE BIT OF CURRENCY... [yeah NOT happening]

There are basically two alternative philosophies on this one:

a) punish corporations for acting in their own interests,

- or -

b) make it so EVERYONE can benefit by lowering tax rates across the board, and no need to shop for a 'tax haven' to prevent losing a big chunk of your money

just sayin' - gummints get too much of our money anyway. let THEM budget and cut back for once...

Welcome back, 'ping of death', it has been... a few months. Now it's Apple's turn to do the patching

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so 90's

just HOW long has this bug been in the iKernel ?

We (may) now know the real reason for that IBM takeover. A distraction for Red Hat to axe KDE

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Unhappy

Re: Yep

I think the debate on the UI is more of "why did you CHANGE it into *THAT* it when I LIKED IT THE WAY IT WAS???" And THEN, make it so I CAN NOT GET THE OLD ONE ANY MORE!!!

Yeah, same thing done to Windows, too, after Win7.

How soon people forgot how Windows 3.0 sold Windows as a UI _BECAUSE_ it was 3D skeuomorphic as well as being intuitive, unlike Windows 1.x and 2.x before it.

NOW everything's going BACK to Windows 1.x and 2.x because *IDIOTS* are jumping on that bandwagon with NO good reason, and TAKING! AWAY! ALTERNATIVES!!!

WHAT the FEEL, right???

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Re: But I LIKE KDE!

past-tense on the LIKE - those FLATSO looking 'Plasma' screenshots NAUSEATE me. It's exactly why I would have choosen "the OLD KDE" over so-called "modern" GUIs.

https://www.kde.org/screenshots/

as the version gets OLDER, the skeuomorphism INCREASES. What the *FEEL* are they *THINKING* ???

OK if they're "feeling" they're NOT thinking, and that's the point...

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the last screenshot I saw of "new, shiny" KDE looked NOTHING like what I was accustomed to seeing, all 2D and FLATSO and "Gnome 3-ish"... like they drank the 2D FLATSO coolaid or something.

I'll stick with Mate, which should still be "installable" on RH, or something lighter like lxde. No need for 2D FLAT "looks like Chrome/Australis/Win-10-nic" instead of something I _liked_ from 5+ years ago, almost BRAG-worthy even.

"Up"-grading. SOOOO overrated!!!

If KDE had _NOT_ swallowed the FLATSO+Wayland 2-fisted GAGGER (aka 'plasma'), maybe it'd be "different enough" that people would WANT it more!!!

(you really DO have to make your product "different enough" when everybody ELSE is heading over the cliff, to keep your customers from doing a 'Mate' or 'Devuan', ya know??? Otherwise, your "new, shiny obsessed" out of touch "developers" who *FEEL* as if it's "OUR turn, now" to make DESKTOP COMPUTERS look like PHONE SCREENS will *RUIN* *EVERYTHING*!!! [whoops, too late]

'Privacy is a human right': Big cheese Sat-Nad lays out Microsoft's stall at Future Decoded

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Re: "Privacy is a human right"

the epitome of Irony, when Micro-shaft (inventors of Win-10-nic) says that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony

"what appears, on the surface, to be the case, differs radically from what is actually the case. "

the robot devil would be proud!

'He must be stopped': Missouri candidate's children tell voters he's basically an asshat

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Re: words or actions.

you can't really be 'kicked out of the party'. unfortunately he won a primary. having the rest of the party denounce or condemn you is about as much as they can do.

I wish wacky Demo[n,c][R,r]ats would get "similar coverage" with THEIR wackies. or maybe it's a testament to the Republican party, in general, that when some racist [etc.] claims to be Republican, and maybe even wins a primary, not only does the rest of the party denounce/condemn etc., it becomes "a news item" because it's so INFREQUENT.

The press won't "cover" for a Republican. For a Demo[n,c][R,r]at, it seems they DO.

I'm glad I'm not in that guy's district. Moral dillema: vote for a) racist Republican, b) Demo[n,c[[R,r]at...

[it's bad enough I have to pick between 2 'D' senators, one being Feinstein, and in my opinion, she's the lesser of the two evils, and I'll have to hold my nose and choke back the bile on that choice, and maybe lose some sleep over it, because a NON-vote is half a vote for 'the other one']

Boffins have fabricated microscopic sci-fi tractor beams for real

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Re: Carbon nanotubes?

interesting idea, but would it be an economically practical/viable process?

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Re: using beams of light to manipulate atoms.

right, with momentum and velocity = speed of light, you can calculate an effective mass or 'rest mass' using the e = m * c^2 formula when the energy of the photon [related to frequency] is known

photons are like a 5th state of matter, one step beyond plasma, matter converted into pure energy. a 6th state would be the 'atomic particle mush' you'd find within a black hole

US government charges two Chinese spies over jet engine blueprint theft

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Re: Not the first time

very little (if any) response, most likely.

'Most Enabled Nation' status.

Microsoft claims Office 364 back to business as usual. Oh no it isn't, say suffering sysadmins

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canary group

to Micro-shaft, that's the 'home' users; i.e. pay EXTRA to NOT be 'a canary'

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Re: Active reproduction?!?!

new product idea: Micro-shaft Lube

Apple's launch confirms one thing: It's determined to kill off the laptop for iPads

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Re: My point is the finger point

the problem here is that when you measure "user base" according to "new item sales", instead of "what they're using", you get a distorted picture of what the customers want and use.

(the article gets it right, though, from what I read)

much like the PC market, yeah. Slabs seem to be improving enough to sustain the 'new, shiny' demand. For now. But not so much for desktop/laptop sales. People hang onto what they have.

Unsure why you can't log into Office 365? So is Microsoft

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Re: Have they tried turning it off and on again?

THIS one really needs 30 seconds in the microwave

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Re: Come El Reg we know you want to say it...

"It has gone a bit TITSUP"

oooh you can't say that, because it implies something similar to 'NIPpleS'

/me runs and hides, now

50 ways to leave your lover, but four to sniff browser history

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Devil

run NoScript

problem solved

GitHub lost a network link for 43 seconds, went TITSUP for a day

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re: Why did GitHub take a day to resync

"Demonstrating the potential instability introduced by excessive complexicity in a system"

The term I'm thinking of starts with 'cluster' (how aproh-pooh)

Admittedly, I've never had to set one of these up. I would think that a transaction-based system could simply apply the backlogged transactions, right???

[you know, like taking a failed RAID drive off-line and swapping in a new one]

Microsoft teaches a 10-year-old Red Dog new tricks and the Windows 10 1809 delay hits Exchange 2019

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Re: “lose the trust of developers for a generation.”

the 'latest generation' of developers seems to have started with windows "Ape" and gnome 3 and systemD.

That would be 2010-ish as I recall, shortly after the widespread sigh of relief when Windows 7 released... [2010 would be the beginning of the development cycle, more or less, confirmed by systemd's history on the wikipedia page]

It began with the release of gnome 3 in 2011. Linus' response to it was *PERFECT*. Gnome 3 has angered users AND developers for changing the rules and cramming it down our throats, among other things.

It more or less coincided with the release of systemD. That, too, has angered devs and users alike, for similar reasons.

Then, it culminated with the release of Windows "Ape", with Sinofsky taking the heat for a design made by THE SAME PERSON THAT INVENTED THE RIBBON, along with a 2D FLATSO look that just hasn't gone away (like it should have) in Win-10-nic.

And let's not forget Chrome and Firef[u,o]x - 'Australis' was the official encircling of the drain for the UI.

Strangely, this period ALSO corresponds (astrologically) to the entry of Pluto into Capricorn, and the election of Barak Oba[k,m]a. [last time Pluto entered Capricorn, it was the 1770's, and the U.S. revolution happened]. [for a brief pause for thought, consider that tidal bulges on the sun are relative to planetary positions as seen from Earth, in their effect of solar output on the Earth - tidal bulges would alter the reactivity of the nuclear furnace - and for what it's worth, if it has an effect on the psychology of the human mind, it makes sense - not as a way of predicting the future, but as a means of explaining generational trends, etc.]

For good or ill, this astrological 'coincidence' seems more compelling than otherwise. If the pattern is to be believed, it covers "a generation", marked by the following: for the first 1/3 or so of the period, there is a general overreach and upheaval of the institutions (governments, banks, corporations) that motivate their overthrow (2nd 1/3), followed by the re-establishment of something new (final third). This is my opinion but I'm sticking with it anyway.

It suggests that the current generation of developers, who are responsible for things _LIKE_ windows 8/10, gnome 3, and systemD, are in fact, shooting their own feet. Their actions (like the presidency of Oba[m,k]a] motivates a YUGE rebellion (electing Trump), which is then followed by "something else to replace it" (referring to gummint policies as one example).

For the software developer 'generation' effect, it could be a restoration to old ways, such as going back to the WIMP interface with 3D skeumorphic appearance and System V 'init' [such as releases like Devuan, desktops like Cinnamon and Mate, etc.]. It could be a return to "customer-centric".

in any case, it'll be the kind of "STOP; go back" revolution, followed by an "even more of THAT, thank you".

/me removes tin foil hat now, and grabs popcorn.

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Linux

or don't pay ANYTHING, then download/install Libre Office. *FIXED*. You're welcome.

(yes to going back to recommend libre/open office)

Apple might be 'collateral damage' in US and China trade dust-up

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Re: 3D Printing reply

yeah 3D printing has costs involving nozzles and filament, plus the time it takes to 3D print something vs molding. building 10's of units, 3D printing is reasonable. Building thousands, molding makes more sense.

And if it's under $100 to make a mold, the cost viability point is even smaller than I thought.

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Meh

Re: Shooting onself in the head

well, unfortunately it seems your company has (apparently) invested in infrastructure inside China. I suggest looking at Mexico instead.

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Re: collateral damage?

the thing is, the value ADDED to things made in China typically makes up a LOT more of the cost of goods sold than does the price of things they make.

So if there's a 25% increase in cost of things made in China, it won't translate to a 25% increase in the PRICE of that item. It's more likely going to be a lot less, maybe 5%. Apple's branding has MORE value than the price of the unit made by Foxconn, in other words. And there's the software, etc. which [as I understand it] is done within the USA. Without _THAT_ the iGoods are nothing more than expensive paperweights.

Also imports to China should increase if they STOP VIOLATING OUR PATENTS AND COPYRIGHTS as part of any future 'trade deal'.

Official: IBM to gobble Red Hat for $34bn – yes, the enterprise Linux biz

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Will systemd become standard on mainframes as well?

doubtful. I think the 'culture' that produced things *LIKE* systemd aren't in line with IBM's way of doing things...

IBM really is about giving customers what they want. If customers DO NOT WANT systemd, they won't have to use it when IBM gets its way.

Think "sales and marketing" meets "engineering". The reality is that engineering needs sales/marketing, even if they're irritating as hell and drive the process too often, because it's the CUSTOMERS, and not the whims/wishes/unicorns-and-rainbows of the engineering team that get the development time assigned. no more "because we *FEEL* and people MUST accept it" (the attitude behind things *LIKE* systemd and gnome 3) is what I expect in the future... from IBM's hand in the mix.

After all - IBM has invested their future in Linux. No doubt they want THAT to continue.

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Re: At least is isnt oracle or M$

If it were Micro-shaft, we could look forward to the 'Extinguish' part of 'Embrace, Extend, Extinguish, *EX-TER-MIN-ATE*' in a short period of time.

IBM is likely to put something into RH that they didn't have before: CASH

They are also likely to REMOVE some of the more irritating 'cultural' things, maybe even systemd and (on its way to becoming, if Ubuntu is any indication) 2D FLATSO gnome 3 [I still have hope!]

I can also see the possibility of IBM seriously considering a GENERAL USE LINUX DESKTOP to compete with Micro-shaft, even if it's only out of spite over the OS/2 vs Windows thing.

Too many people assume that "corporation" equals EVIL. You forget that you most likely work FOR a corporation, and that a corporation is PEOPLE. Many of those people have retirement funds with stock portfolios that include those "evil" corporations. Although some of them (Micro-shaft, Google, etc.) may be engaging in questionable and/or outright ILLEGAL and IMMORAL behaviors and policies, it's the people running the place, not the corporation itself, that are *EVIL*.

I am actually pretty happy IBM is doing this. I see it as a move in the right direction for Linux.

Imagine what could happen if GOOGLE purchased RH...

Our brave El Reg vulture sat through four days of Oracle OpenWorld to write this cracking summary just for you

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Re: Oracle has no future

by automating the DBA side of things, I wonder if they're quite literally undermining their potential "unofficial" sales staff, who would be willing to advocate "more Oracle solutions" to solve problems that can't be solved by a few minutes/hours/days of actual effort...

Oracle aims pistol at foot, claims it will reduce the "cost footprint" of ownership...

I'm a fan of PostgreSQL anyway. I've DL'd older versions of Oracle (9i I think was the last one I DL'd) in the past, thinking that learning their system would somehow benefit me. I still prefer PG, although the Java-based admin tools WERE convenient.

'mainframe' thinking like "cloud-based" just doesn't fit with a distributed mindset anyway. It's *STILL* a single basket, in which all eggs are placed. Right, google? Right, github? Yeah, we *NEVER* have "outages" now do we???

This ALSO reminds me of Micro-shaft jumping on the "fondle-slab and phone" bandwagon way too late. By then the wagon was nearly out of gas, but we ended up with "The Metro" Windows 'Ape' and Win-10-nic anyway... because "all computers" were PHONES, now, according to THAT kind of thinking!

"All databases" are *NOT* cloud infrastructures. Oracle needs to remember that.

China tells Trump to use a Huawei phone to avoid eavesdroppers

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Re: Wise move

'full of libtards who support Hillary' - actually, no. Just a handful at the top are like that [the sleazy types that slither their way to the top of ANY kind of organization, actually]. Rank and file FBI are like regular citizens, some support Democrats, some Republicans, and they keep their politics out of their jobs (as they should).

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Devil

"How does bullshit and bluster translate in to Chinese and Russian these days"

It just sounds a lot like what Demo[n,c][R,r]ats say. Shouldn't be any of THAT coming from Trump's phone.

(yeah anti-Trump'ers go ahead and downvote me, it's a badge of honor)

funny joke about the Huawei phone, though.

Fujitsu: Closes director's gate to Tait, 9 execs abdicate, and for German workers – a crap Weihnachtszeit

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Re: dead horse

Fujitsu is a lot like HP and IBM in this regard, I guess. I used to work for them (as an I.T. contractor) a long time ago. Not a bad company, really. I suspect 'old school' thinking in the wrong places, though (and maybe NOT in the RIGHT places).

And they _do_ need to be a bit more competitive on pricing.

The D in Systemd stands for 'Dammmmit!' A nasty DHCPv6 packet can pwn a vulnerable Linux box

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Re: Old is good

"refusal to accept patches to let it work on non-Linux Unix"

"likely a big sigh of relief for users of those other Unix variants."

YESSSSS!!!!!!!!

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Devil

Re: Meh

clean reinstall, or at least home dirs from a tarball backup.

If the only things you're really re-installing are system stuff and configs [that will need re-doing anyway], might as well go for it. I've done this route a few times over the years, even when cloning a system onto other boxen or into VMs. works for me. Also works to clean install "that way" when replacing a hard drive.

/me notes that when you've replaced a hard drive more than once on the same box, it reflects the age of your hardware. Some Most of mine dates back to mid-to-late noughties.

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Re: Old is good

"Poettering seems to want to build a Cathedral rather than a Bazzar."

a road side fruit/veggie stand would be adequate in this case. or a convenience store.

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The gift that keeps on giving (systemd) !!!

This makes me glad I'm using FreeBSD. The Xorg version in FreeBSD's ports is currently *slightly* older than the Xorg version that had that vulnerability in it. AND, FreeBSD will *NEVER* have systemd in it!

(and, for Linux, when I need it, I've been using Devuan)

That being said, the whole idea of "let's do a re-write and do a 'systemd' instead of 'system V init' because WE CAN and it's OUR TURN NOW, 'modern' 'change for the sake of change' etc." kinda reminds me of recent "update" problems with Win-10-nic...

Oh, and an obligatory Schadenfreude laugh: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The end (of the flash boom) is nigh! But not before SK Hynix tallies up its record revenues

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SK Hynix has over half of their semiconductor plants in S.Korea

according to the wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabrication_plants

more than half of SK Hynix's plants are inside S. Korea, with 2 under construction and one more planned. Seems they ALSO see the future NOT being '100% located in China'. Just worth pointing out.

Microsoft promises a fix for Windows 10 zip file woes. In November

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Devil

Re: Search?

there used to be 'FIND.EXE' but using it was worse than cumbersome.

a) install cygwin

b) use 'find' and 'grep' together. works for me, is usually very fast, does not need to index the entire universe just to actually "find something" and DOES NOT announce EVERY LOCAL SEARCH to bing's slurpage with your Micro-shaft "cloudy" logon attached.

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Re: I wonder...

"Win10 sucks so hard it makes black holes look like they're ejaculating."

it's worth having to clean up my keyboard after seeing that...

It begs for a top 10 list, too.

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Devil

Re: Upgrade

'95 ran more efficiently than Win-10-nic, and didn't slurp nor advertise to you.

And it was RESPECTABLE in its appearance, a nice 3D skeuomorphic appearance without being excessive about 3D-ness [some people thought XP was 'bulbous', but I'd rather have 'bulbous' than FLATSO]. XP could still have the '95-ish look (mostly) with the 'windows 2000' option for the start menu.

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Re: Windows Search

to HELL with the micro-shaft 'search the universe' indexer anyway. DISABLE THE DAMN THING!

I find that searches are FASTER using grep on POSIX machines. There are no inefficient Micro-shaft "lack of cache" issues on Linux or FreeBSD!

I mean how often do I need to search EVERY EXECUTABLE BINARY for the text "Hi Mom!" - or an SQL database, for that matter.

a) run cygwin

b) use find 'whatever' | grep "whatever" instead.

much better. eliminate searching files that you know are NOT the ones you want. Faster, better, doesn't give Micro-shaft an excuse to slurp your file system for whatever they want to look for and report it back to Redmond...

Besides, Cortana ALWAYS 'hits the web' with whatever you're looking for. the cygwin method does *NOT*

Word up: Embedded vids in Office docs can hide embedded nasties, infosec bods warn

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Microsoft Word documents can potentially smuggle in malicious code

Deja Vu

Yes, Americans, you can break anti-piracy DRM if you want to repair some of your kit – US govt

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Re: Midterms

yeah the John Deere repair fiasco is a lot like Micro-shaft using "software audits" to punish their own customers. when you treat your customers poorly, they'll find ways around you, if they can't (for some reason) get a competing product and tell you to pack sand.

It's the first thing I thought of when I saw the title, the use of DRM to prevent farmers from working on their own tractors. I could see preventing amateur mechanics from working on their own cars as "the next step".

Still, legislation and/or bureaucratic action to create exceptions like this is _STILL_ lipstick on the non-oinky end of the boar. it does NOT fix the fundamental flaws in that stupid 'digital millenium copyright bullshit' law.

Tech world mulls threat as new round of US China trade tariffs looms

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Re: Tariffs should have always been in place.

"There should have already been a tariff structure in place to ensure products are being made under similar environmental, human rights, and labour laws."

you have a point. countries that enable exploitation (child labor, slave wages, dangerous working conditions, etc.) are already subject to things LIKE import bans for humanitarian reasons, to the best of my knowledge.

It's not unusual at all to see anything like this.

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Re: Just you wait...

about CE marks... it's actually a set of testing you have to do to comply with the regs. I could get CE testing with electronic stuff made in USA, and would have to in order to export it to the EU. Just sayin'. There's a lot with that, including ROHS and something similar to FCC testing requirements as I recall. I forget the details, I just remember a 'used-to-company' dealing with that for its products. A completed device had to be ground up and chemically analyzed to prove it complied with ROHS, for example.

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Re: Foot, meet bullet

"Companies will keep moving until there are no poor people left to exploit."

at which point it'll be "lights out" manufacturing with robots.

yeah, seen this coming. It's also a potential solution to the tariff thing.

Currently Mexico looks better than China for 'off-shoring' and has for quite a while now. Maybe they can hire those people from the 'caravan'...

[this is what 'push back' looks like, by the way, instead of always bending over and getting 'surprised']

This two-year-old X.org give-me-root hole is so trivial to exploit, you can fit it in a single tweet

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Re: Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it

"Why does the frame buffer, gpu and mouse need root access and the inevitable setuid root nonsense with its security issues?"

kernel drivers and devices, for one. You may not want anyone and his brother to be able to accidentally screw with these. An 'suid' application could do so safely, with root-only access to the named devices in the '/dev' tree (as one example). And '/dev/mem' may be involved (another example). so yeah, might wanna 'suid root' on the executable, then make it safe to do so as part of that.

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Re: FWIW

@DCFusor

if you have a system where ssh lets anyone log in, an ssh'd user could attempt to start an X server and specify the output file as 'whatever' for the log, and so the vulnerability still applies.

But I think my 'chmod' or 'chmod' + 'chown' + 'xorg group' method (applied to the Xorg binary's permissions) would mitigate that, preventing anyone not authorized to start an X server from starting an X server by not allowing them to execute it.

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Devil

Re: Now, if this were a Windows exploit...

and Xorg is open source meaning ANYONE can contribute, as needed, or re-build it locally with patches applied and NOT have to wait around for some 2.7 Gbyte download and "at our convenienced" forced-up-our-asses update to come along and "fix" it [and maybe break something else, too]

I'll stick with the much-less-frequent-need-for-it open source patch method, thanks.