Re: A well written account of what's going on
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Worse, "In God We Trust" wasn't added to the paper bills until 1956.
I don't hate the Christians, I'm not saying it's all their fault. But they did take what was supposed to be an "open" nation and turned it decidedly Christian. The whole "freedom of religion" bit actually ended up helping them out, by giving them a farcical ideal they can hold up in defense of their actions anytime someone accuses the Christians of pushing their own agendas into law.
There's Meteor Crater, which is already in a nice dish shape.
However it is only about 30 miles away from Flagstaff, AZ, which is a fairly large town with its own FM & AM radio stations. I'm guessing with Arecibo being a radio telescope, part of choosing its location has to do with minimizing local interference.
This here is the real problem. The absolutely absurd military spending has been going on for so long, it feels strange & uncomfortable for officials to even *think* about suggesting we curb it.
Meanwhile, despite all the great innovations NASA has actually provided for us terrestrial folk, like memory foam and Velcro, you'll still see people regurgitating the same words in protest of it, even on this forum: "Why are we spending so much money on space when there's problems here on Earth? Cut all space funding until land-life is made better!"
And so NASA budgets are always on the chopping block, while the elephant in the room is wearing camouflage.
stopped at "destructive partisan politics...
liberals are such idiots and wimps...
Huh, don't think I've ever met anyone who openly called for more destructive partisan politics. Anyone who admitted it in public, at least.
I'm honestly kinda sad to see Trump leaving office, he offered your type a lot of perceived protections that gave you the confidence you needed to stick your neck out like this. Now it's like whack-a-mole, where the smarter ones in your lot are already pulling their head back under the sheets, yet a few dummies still like to pop out and spew more garbage & hate.
Let's see, does the comment contain crippling insecurity and projection?
"haven't met a lib i couldn't slap around"
Check. I'm very familiar with your type, the louder you cry means the bigger the lie. You've never slapped anyone around ever, have you? But you're so insecure about yourself you have to invent a tough-guy Rambo image of yourself in your head? That's not just sad, dude. That's pathetic.
You should seek out a therapist, please get help.
States rights is a double-edged sword, it does good and bad. In practice, it makes law evolution faster because states get to practice and "play out" certain changes in law while everyone else looks on patiently.
For example, marijuana is still illegal federally and can carry serious criminal penalties. But after this election I think the number of states with medicinal mj is now over 50%, and there's a dozen or so now with recreational weed legalized. Back under the Bush presidency this became a hot topic after California made medical marijuana legal. Local authorities would issue grower & seller permits, then the DEA or FBI would raid their business and arrest everyone involved.
After a point the White House just decided to turn the other cheek, wait and see what plays out, and that's the state we're still in today.
Another great example is gay marriage: started at the states level, then once others realized it didn't cause the apocalypse, they followed shortly. Ending in a Supreme Court case that made it legal federally.
It cuts both ways, but personally I like the extra freedom in this system. E.g. here in Arizona few years back, we made medicinal mj and concealed-carry without a permit (no CCW license required anymore) legal in the same year. And this year, we made recreational marijuana legal.
My job is currently in process of implementing Agile company-wide, (so manglement will probably be overly zealous about it for a time) I can't help but think about this war against waterfall.
Someone else already said it: evolutionary, not revolutionary. Even when doing iterative development, you can still make revolutionary changes, as we can see (just like with waterfall, we can make evolutionary changes). I get why people like Agile and why it's useful, everybody (not just devs) get to participate in the process, and change direction of the project if requirements change.
But can't help but think this has caused people to forget some of the key features of good-ol' waterfall method. Mainly: what's the end-game here, boys? Agile, taken purely at face value, would have you think the goal is continuous, endless development. There's not enough exit conditions in the Agile loop. At least waterfall has a very clear start and end point.
When you don't think about "What's the FINAL version of our product going to look like?" you start to see these software projects go off the rails with these radical re-designs and changes, like nobody raised their hand to ask why we're fixing stuff that isn't broken.
Perhaps you're right, if it was purely an interview meeting. Thinking back I just realized that for my past 3 positions, I was already hired before the first face-to-face meeting or even stepping into the building.
Two of the those three advised me on dress code for my first day. Only one of those left it up to me (for IT Director position), so I wore the full suit & shoes, and got dinged for it. After first walking in the door, and meeting the boss for 15 mins in his office, he commented twice on how "well dressed" I was, and at the end said, "you know, you won't have to dress like that while working here."
Surely these traditional views on wearing the suit the for the interview / first day are still widely practiced, but it's definitely no longer gospel. It's best to play it by ear for the company you're with.
I'm a big believer in "dress for the job/for the work", not necessarily the interview. So I dress how I would expect to show up for the work everyday. If it's a non-customer-facing desk job, I'll probably be wearing polos or a nice shirt with either slacks or nice jeans everyday; so I wear that to the interview. If it was a painter's job, I'd wear painter's clothes. If I was interviewing at a law firm and expected to wear a suit everyday, only then would I wear a suit to the interview. You get exactly what it says on the tin.
It just seems so silly to say "if you're not in a full suit for the interview you're underdressed" and "I'll never work a job where I have to wear a suit everyday" in the same breath. Seems flatly dishonest, almost an acknowledgment that your interview was just a pony show to get you in the door, not a true reflection of what kind of worker you'll be now that you're hired.
(Plus, I have been dinged before for being overdressed even for an IT Director position, but I was technically already hired on that first day.)
If you might recall, the training videos for Flight Simulator 2000 were shot with live actors. There's a scene at the very end where one instructor is flying low through NYC, between the buildings. The other instructor says, "You almost hit the Empire State Building!" The one playing the game turns to the camera and says, "That would've been cool!"
As you might imagine, this choice scene was quickly stripped from future copies of the game post-9/11.
Here's the scene @4:35 in all its horrific glory: https://youtu.be/ssig3LUCwng?t=274
It's on you if you want to play gatekeeper and fun police for a video game, but don't pretend like there aren't plenty of professionals out there who like to dick around too, every now and again.
I held onto my replaceable-battery smartphone models as long as I could, until they literally stopped selling any flagship models with that feature. Now I'm playing the same game with the headphone jack, bought the Note 9 with unlocked carrier for this reason, for roughly $600 shipped, about half the launch price.
Been a while since I owned a Samsung, so maybe things have changed but I didn't realize how locked-down the bootloader is with their enterprise Knox on everything now. I was planning to wipe sammy's ROM off it and replace with vanilla android or a similar flavor, but looks like that's a no-go.
A nice feature with the unlocked carrier phones is the FM tuner is also unlocked. Sad to see how many phones had the hardware, but disabled it in firmware, probably in hopes it would drive listeners to buy their internet radio offerings. Such a useful feature that we'll never know how popular it could've been, just like the IR blaster & recorder some early smartphone models had hardware for but usually disabled in some way.
I've been thinking about these micro murder drone swarms that keep getting talked about.
It seems to me, they must wirelessly communicate with each other in order to coordinate an attack. I'm guessing in the form of bluetooth or wifi, both of which are in the 2.4 GHz spectrum (+5 GHz Wifi). I wonder how they would act if you actively disrupted their communications.
I believe it's fairly simple to acquire or build your own 2.4-5 GHz portable jammer, even if it's highly illegal to operate. Still, might it be worth it to look into securing your own device for use in our dystopian future? I'll keep mine next to the homemade EMP in my bomb shelter.
There were plenty of reasons to despise Hillary as well, namely all campaign donations she accepted from big oil and big pharma. Her campaign was looking like we were about to get more of the same: another Clinton and another point for the American oligarchy. I remember quite a few were voting "Not Hillary", yours truly included.
Still didn't want him to win. There was still a fleeting hope that some different Republican candidate would swoop in from the heavens at the last moment and take his place, or maybe he would be so grossly incompetent that he wouldn't do much damage while in office.
South Park usually has pretty good commentary on the situation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDBQzcDQiII
Oh buddy, we're just getting started!
Nevermind the Nazis openly walking the street, we're going to do a whole tour of history this decade. Guillotine's are already being built, but we expect the Nazi's to still put up a fight. They'll probably have the sadistic police on their side, but we'll have the military members itching to collect the most Nazi scalps. It'll be a good, old fashioned brother-against-brother Civil War again, to see if America can finally decide if black people are really people or not. And to finish it all off at the end, The Great Depression 2: Another One?
The $200 wireless headphones is a dead giveaway here that that's exactly what's going on. I believe that's the same price point Apple sells the Airpods at, which after release just a few months later Google announced theirs at the exact same price.
Of course, it was no coincidence that was the same year both companies removed headphone jacks from their mobile offerings. Even though it's a scammy move, still a pretty good marketing decision.
This just seems like Microsoft's a day late and a dollar short to the party. Anybody who bought into the overpriced earbuds that do the exact same thing as a $15 wired pair but worse in literally every way, probably already own them. And if they're going to buy more, they're probably going to buy into their brand. How many suckers does MS think are still out there who will buy this crap?
I've heard thru the grapevine that's even starting become a cultural norm for India. For example call center staff will all work in a giant warehouse together under a parent company, which will grab dozens of clients overseas and "hire out" their staff to them. Hence, there's a very low level of caring from employees, since if you "fire" them their real employer will get them a new assignment at a new company by the end of the day. If it seems like sometimes they do things their own way, even after several calls & emails explaining your company requires these tasks to be done your specific way, it may be because the employee you thought you hired doesn't actually work for you, but has a manager telling him how *we* do things. They're still literal sweatshops; only now converted from clothing & trinkets to call centers & webdev stations.
Not too unlike China where the culture has shifted to not only is stealing everybody else's ideas & tech o.k., now in a sense it's considered more "honorable" to steal someone's idea than it is to generate your own.
Not wrecked beyond hope. Under a constant state of change, with a grim future. We humans create a lot of change intentionality & unintentionally, we just need to learn to control it better on a large scale.
To quote musk or one of those futurist types, when asked "when do you think we'll have the technology to terraform Mars?" they replied, "We already do. We're already actively terraforming Earth, just unintentionally. And without direction, since the end result may be an environment that's completely uninhabitable for humans."
Don't give up just yet. We went down this path by accident, but with new & better technology we may be able to not only stop the damage being done, but also reverse it.
that while blockchain is its own unique technology, the only problem it's solving is being a distributed database/ ledger with no one official authority to answer to, besides majority rule. It's suffering from buzzword status now.
I keep reading these articles about governments or orgs adopting blockchain and think "oh great idea" until I think about it a moment or somebody in comments point it out. The only reason blockchain was necessary is to keep a distributed database across many nodes synced, when it is also decentralized without a root authority by design. In most of these situations there is a root authority, and you want to centralize everything. And without a huge network of nodes to keep in sync, I don't know what to call it besides trying to apply peer2peer technology to a client/ server model.
Considering my dad is the one who taught me computers, started his own semiconductor company, and his dad bought him some of the first computers, can't say I relate with what you're saying. Usually old people teach me the old technology, and I teach them the new. Who knows, maybe that experience is totally unique to me.
Of course, I understand what you're saying, my mother is like that, but she's Polish. And she leans into it hard, will give up learning anything new before she even starts. Her father however, is an actual engineer, he even worked on Atari. I still go to him for math/algorithm problems n such, I suck at that stuff but his brain is still sharp.
I believe you're picking on the wrong factor here. It's not old people you struggle with teaching, it's non-technical people. Young people may be a little more "technical" only because they have to be, otherwise how else would they post pictures of their butts to instagram? They don't actually "know" anything about computers. I'm pretty sure my grandpa doesn't know how to post pictures of his butt to tik-tok, and he helped design Atari.
It's always good to recognize when the eyes go dead and start to roll back into their heads. At that point I just throw in some hand waving magic and get to the point.
I just listened to those recordings too, enjoyed them as well. If this dude survives these lawsuits he might have a promising career in politics.
I do not support any of the violence or looting either, but you're right that historically, it is effective. There already have been peaceful protests & marches before this, but that's not very newsworthy.
Everyone's attention perked up as soon as they became not-so-peaceful. I don't agree with it, but it does work. However watching the videos from Hong Kong, I will say we Americans could learn some things from them.
What's sad / odd about that if you read some of Joel Spolsky's blog, is how easy some basic user testing can be.
"Hallway testing" is like you describe, grab 5 people walking down the hallway, and *gently encourage them to come test your software. Usually you'll discover any glaring problems with how your average person expects the software to work (user model) vs. how it actually works (program model) within the first 2 or 3 people.
*gentle encouragement = candy, cattle prod, or chloroform, depending on how bad the software is to start with.
> a testament to the dedication humans are capable of
Indeed, we are (and have been) capable of great engineering for a long time. Planned obsolescence has creeped so deeply into our consumer appliances, and our psyche, these sorts of feats seem even more impressive now. In reality, humanity's overall engineering skill has advanced so far, the greatest can now design a tool with a 2 year warranty to die after 2 years 1 month. (The guy who designed a tool that lasts 8 years got fired, he nearly collapsed the company by impacting future tool sales).
We've known how to design things to last as long as possible for a long time now, in fact we've only gotten better at it. It's just VERY rare that is ever the goal, even commercial equipment vendors need to make a living off of service contracts. One of the few scenarios where it's actually *economical* to overbuild the hell out of it, is spacecraft design (you've only got one shot).
2nd thing: I'm marveling at this right now, can't believe I've haven't realized it yet: whatever you call that duplicate "ground spacecraft". I've known about them for some time, even seen used in movies like Apollo 13 and The Martian, but their importance always seems downplayed. It made me think till now this was a "nice to have" thing, but in fact I've just realized, this is 100% a necessity for every space mission! How the hell do they keep extending missions decades beyond planned lifespan? How the hell do they test these "dirty hacks" that keep them operational for so long? That 'ground spacecraft', I've realized, is absolutely essential to keep any mission running!
I'm going to take a wild guess here that the issue isn't just "3D", it's the resolution as well.
They stated the 3D is important for operating the arm and the equipment on it. Meaning they probably need good resolution as well to make sure they don't bang the arm into a rock and damage it.
I know scientists also tend to be more interested in non-visible wavelengths than color photographs. It could be they're also flipping through a lot of other sensor data, perhaps some actual 3D mapping, maybe trying to transpose that extra data onto the map. Not tasks that could be easily handled by 1980s equipment.
Eh, not a fan of the Apple approach either. Read a review on it titled "I became the king of all dongles" because that's essentially what you have to become to enable that device to work how a laptop gets used. The reviewer claimed it wasn't that bad, but had to get a laptop bag about double the size just to carry all the extra crap with him. (And this was shortly after the Type-C standard was released, Apple jumped on this quick, so nobody even had any type-C gear yet, had to buy it all extra.)
Maybe Apple fans put up with this crap for some esoteric aesthetic reason which I'm too dumb to ever understand. Personally, when I wanted a travel laptop, I got one that was 4 mm thicker, with the gigabit Ethernet, HDMI, and yes even the undying, ubiquitous USB-A ports Apple hates so much built in. I got that one because I actually wanted a thin, light, travel bag to carry, containing a laptop and charging cable, maybe a flash drive. Not a bag that's actually 6 CM larger, bulkier, and heavier thanks to all the extra crap you have to carry just to enable the laptop to be a laptop, requires more wires, more setup time, more points of failure, more troubleshooting, and for you to take over the entire conference room table or workspace just to get set up. Because 4 mm thinner is more important than being easy & useful, apparently.
> "had a full-blown toddler tantrum in front of the press today"
I wish this was an overstatement, but it's dead on. I listen to the news to help pass the time at home now, I had to turn it off yesterday. You end up just hating every single idiot in that room. The only redeeming thought is the smart idiots probably hate themselves too.
Oh my, it seems the comment section here is even more "seasoned" than I was already expecting! </oldmenjokes>
You're right with Doom 3, they did try to go a different direction with it into survival/horror. Still had some good mechanics tho, the touchscreens were a dream to use, showed us how "every game should do it" if you are going force players to interact with in-game computers.
But what's more interesting to me is the number of comments still praising 1 & 2! Yes they are the de-facto standard, but nostalgia is blinding at times. The way people talk here, you'd think they just played an original Doom session last week! I'm curious as to how many actually have it set up in any capacity, or actually played it within the past year. Especially-old games look terrible on an HD monitor, leaving you to go digging around storage to find your old "just for troubleshooting" low-res monitor, because it makes it look better (like how you remember). Slowly, some of the modern game advancements become apparent: tank controls! You can't even strafe, and suddenly the run-and-gun demon blasting "memory", you realize, was really more of a fantasy, of only your best-ever moments mashed together and viewed from a 10 ft. distance with only the rosiest of glasses.
I'm surprised there's not more stories like this. Nearly everyone I've talked to who has indeed ventured out to their storage, dusted off their old kit, and followed-through hooking it up and starting a game, has always said the same thing, "Don't do it!" I'm saying the same thing! These comments seem suspiciously rosy to me, but it's not a challenge, it's a warning, you'll ultimately regret ruining that perfect memory of "my favorite game ever." Facing reality ain't always fun.
INSTEAD, I recommend Doom 2016. It's truly back-to-basics of running n' gunning, shoot everything with big guns until it dies, and adds a literal 'rip and tear' mechanic that even the grouchiest of old farts will enjoy. The maps are large and bright, there are plenty of exploration items and secrets hidden everywhere. It'll be cheaper now that Doom Eternal has released, and while 2016 did add a few new mechanics, still has less mechanics than what they've added for Eternal. Ultimately the best thing about all Doom games is the modern mechanics they remove: no reloading, no 'sprinting' (you're always sprinting!), no aiming: just point & shoot, run, and keep shooting some more. The best accolade one could give is if the modern play-thru matches the nostalgic fantasy in your head, and with modern Doom, the answer for me is "close enough". In your head you like to think the original is better, but in reality you know if you actually tried to play that instead, it would make you miserable. Don't do that. Get a newer version of the game, and keep telling yourself "it's not as good as the first one, but gets the job done"! Trust me, it's always disappointing to find out the truth for sure. The modern games are pretty good, people.
As a 'murican reader, we don't have DAB, I assume at first there was some technical reason for it trying to kill FM? E.g. we just recently (well, 2009) forced over-the-air TV broadcasts to switch to digital only, to free up the 700 MHz band to be auctioned off, and now we're starting to see some of the "low-band" 5G towers making use of the space, even though nobody has the phones that can talk to them yet.
However it sounds like they don't have any planned use for the FM spectrum afterwards? If so, why kill it... as others already noted, FM works great, broad coverage, backwards compatible, power efficient, and you can prob build a working receiver from a tin can and some wire. The radio in my garage I got from my father is literally older than me, still works great. In fact I just bought 2 new FM radios, one is a portable waterproof radio for the shower, and the rechargeable battery lasts over a week. Hell, I'm even investing in more FM equipment for a home automation project, if they tried to take FM away from me I'd go mad...
Elsewhere, probably in some tweets or PR materials, it's been said that this is some type of cover that goes in/around/over the engines after MECO to help protect them from atmospheric forces during re-entry.
They never mention it during the live streams, and it can be hard to find any credible information on it. It's a regular event seen during main booster reentry, and due to the speed of the booster + relative speed of the object it pretty much has to come from the booster itself. Others may have just guesstimated what it is based on that, that may be where I heard it from too. Must be some proprietary technology for Space X to be so hush about it. UFO is correct here!
Haven't there been other studies done that try to explain this?
I believe they surveyed college freshman on their majors/interests, concluded something along the lines of, "men like working with 'things', women like working with people". Obviously not a hard & fast rule, there are many exceptions, and we as a species can be an odd bunch.
However if it really turns out to be true, studies like this seem a bit odd to me that they almost always suggest or imply that a magical 50/50 ratio is the goal. I wonder if that's just a natural "want" when you're fiddling with statistics all day. But if we don't ask the question first, do people actually want to do this work, before rolling out programs to encourage the youth into "the delights of a career in IT", then it seems more like forcing something on them that they may genuinely just don't enjoy doing.
As always, we should still be working to make it easier for women who want to work in IT to get in, and IT still has a "boys-only club" image we have to be persistent in shedding.
But children? They can be easily manipulatived, especially if a gov't/agency is telling them "we want you to work in IT", their parents seem happy & excited when they tell them (they assume the child likes it themselves, not that they're only repeating what they were told in school), as they get a bit older their friends encourage them "wow, you're going to be rich!", and before you know it they're sitting in an office doing something they hate. All it takes is gentle encouragement all along the way.
When I was a kid, I was taught "people are different. And that's o.k." I find myself asking these questions again when these kinds of articles come up. What if we really are different? What if there's a real reason why it seems there's always more women in healthcare and men in tech? And, as a society, can we all be o.k. with that? Or are we going to be slaves to the 50/50 rule because the numbers look good on paper.
> Powershell needs to be open-sourced to make it into Linux distributions...
Anyone? Nobody? ... *crickets*
Alright, fine: PowerShell already is open-source (MIT license) and cross platform since v6:
because it's built on .NET Core, which is the open-source and cross platform version of .NET Framework:
Technically 2 products now, Windows PowerShell v5.1 (.NET Framework) and PowerShell v7 (.NET Core)
There's so many problems with Starliner, you're going to have to be more specific.
The problems that did happen, with the 11 hour clock difference causing attitude control fuel burn, yes, unavoidable after launch was initiated. The other problems, with code controlling a separation event being bad (and who knows what else), actually was avoidable, since they avoided it by uploading some untested duct-tape software patches when it was on orbit.
Nothing like bringing a "just ship it now, we'll fix the rest with patches after launch" attitude to crewed space travel, eh?
Every single "post currency" utopia argument always falls apart under any type of scrutiny.
And why shouldn't it? Currency is an extremely useful, probably essential tool to all modern society, invented way back when bartering was a thing.
This silly idea comes from a simple, yet fundamental misunderstanding most people have. In general, they think, "money is the root of all evil." That's incorrect. The correct quote is, "the *love* of money is the root of all evil." I.e. greed, jealousy, etc. Money is just a tool. By itself it's not good or evil, it's only how people interact with it that make it one way or the other.
Usually, the "post currency utopia" argument is just for fancy communism, which all the pros/cons for are well-documented already. If the debater still insists however that it's not, the argument can always be broken by just making unreasonable requests.
Me: "What if I want something that's not automatically provided? I want a pool in my backyard/garden." *yes/no* Me: "I want a gold-plated pool." Eventually: "No, you can't have that..." Me: "So this utopia does not allow [gold-plated pools]?" "It does, but that's extra. You won't get that for free automatically. You'll have to work extra hard to get it." Me: "Cool, so I'll go volunteer at the YMCA for 4, maybe 5 hours, work extra hard, then I'll get the pool?" "No, you'll have to work more than that. And you can't just pick the easiest jobs." Me: "Wait, then how will I know when I've worked 'enough' to afford what I want? And which jobs count as 'easy'?" "Well, there could be a system of credits that you can save from doing different work..."
Very simple to break the "we don't need currency!" argument. It's a silly wish anyway, born from hatred of the entirely wrong thing. Currency is an extremely useful tool. It's like saying "in my future utopia, there will never be any hammers, ever!" because his mother was killed with a hammer. It's a silly argument, born out of hatred for the wrong thing, and nearly trivial to prove through a short debate, that yes, this future society will still need hammers, even if they're called by an entirely different name.
If you want an "even cruder" way to do this, just buy a miniture FM transmitter. Not the 12v car ones, those are junk. Just one of those tissue box size, black boxes with an antenna and 2-ch input, from Amazon for about ~$70.
Sync issues, gone! Compatibility issues, gone. Multi-room becomes multi-device, any device, even ye olde cassette deck boomboxes. Any old set of amps & speakers, really. Even any possible network congestion issues are also gone, with FM not even being on same bandwidth as the rest of your network.
Hook the transmitter up to a Pi with DAC hat, and you're set. Only requires 1 audio source for practically infinite devices & rooms. Remote control the pi using any of the standard methods, like Home Assistant from any device.
The thing I love about this system is it also scales extremely well. Even the 1W transmitters can do about a mile, and Amazon's selling 5W models for essentially the same price. If you wanted multi-room audio for 2 different sources, say if you did own a mansion, you and your wife were fighting, and she wants to stroll the entire east wing while listening to her music and cursing your name; you want to do the same but with your music and in the west wing. All it would require is 2 FM transmitters.
The ONLY possible downside, you probably have already been thinking about: audio quality. No, it won't be "perfect". Yes, it will be limited to FM's bandwidth. But keep in mind, most radio stations down-sample their recordings for broadcast, to get clearer signal for longer distances. So right out of the gate, you'll get better quality than practically all stereo FM stations, not counting the quality of your source files.
The only REAL downside is the legality of unlicensed FM broadcast. Here in the US at least, the FCC's only written rule on it is the transmission must not reach "greater than 200 feet". I presume something similar for the UK. From my research so far, it looks like others have achieved this by using a 50dB attenuator on the antenna of the 1W transmitter models. For a good attenuator that promises no signal quality loss, they look to be about $85. So, the only real downside is to make it legal, it practically doubles the price. But, I think that's still cheaper than most Sonos products, and it's a 1-shot buy that enables the whole house with multi-room "synced" audio.
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