Re: Most people wouldn't be surprised by this
As evidenced by the impeccable research carried out to craft this plausible scene, NCIS is practically a hacking documentary.
401 posts • joined 3 Dec 2014
There already is an open API supported by the only two mobile OS developers with market penetration that emphasises decentralisation and privacy, and does the job.
It would be child's play to develop an app quickly and easily that uses it. End of proposal.
What the government has chosen to do is ignore the decentralisation and privacy offered, and develop a solution that centralises data.
* All previous evidence would indicate this data will rapidly be abused.
* All previous evidence would indicate this data will rapidly be compromised by other actors, because a government with a long record of dishonesty and an utter lack of transparency that does not care about your privacy certainly does not care about your security, at the backend or in the app.
* It should be noted that this is just the first step. Within a matter of months the tracing app will be supplemented by an immunity passport app that records facial biometrics. Access to public places and your workplace will likely depend on your co-operation in using this app. This despite warnings from the W.H.O that immunity passports will not work and provide a false sense of security.
* Once adoption is made either compulsory or refusal made socially unacceptable, the data gathered will soon be provided to:
1) Law Enforcement for fishing expeditions, fit-ups, persecution/marginalisation
2) Security forces for persecution of minorities, and "enemies of the state" (people who who disagree with the government).
3) Councils and Quangos for an endless bounty of automated and uncontestable fines for various claimed minor infractions
Of course, any attempt to contest the legalities of this will result in the application of the Civil Contingencies Act. This is an emergency after all.
So in summary:
Apple/Google way: decentralised, private contract tracing and warning
UKGov way: Police State in a box. Just add legislation.
"Do you really think that Her Britannic Majesties Secret Service thugs and slippers don't keep a very close eye on what her government and all those other pesky parliamentarians are up to?"
Absolutely. Still, given the number of times various home-grown bombers and terrorists turned out to have been "known to the security services beforehand", I'm uncertain as how close an eye a very close eye really constitutes...
"Such purchase decisions would not be made without Engineering/Lead Developers/Technical Architects etc having the reviewed requirements and available alternatives."
So... you seriously believe companies don't make massively stupid purchase decisions with no input from the technical side of the business?
Last week I was at a company-wide meeting where it was casually mentioned that our customer services team would be moving to a new CRM system. Ink was on paper, but no member of the IT department from the top down had been told it was happening, literally the first we'd heard of it.
When you have the right mix of the wrong people, it happens all the time.
As an occasional Perlmonger (and huge perl fan) and regular PoSH scripter, I have to say this is disappointing. Once upon a time it was Microsoft that spread blatant FUD about Open Source software. Now it's a certain variety of Linux fanboy who spreads FUD about Open Source software.
"I think the reason they only allow tricks to make your email work on powershell commandlets is so you order a hosted solution such as outlook365."
There is no Microsoft product called outlook365. If you meant Office 365, the things you can only do in Exchange on-premises with Powershell are also the things you can generally only do with Powershell in Office 365.
"It's really complicated - perl or bash is like basic compared to powershell"
I think real afficionados of perl and bash would be offended at a comparison to basic. But sure, let's play the complexity game:
A simple Perl echo without resorting to wrapping externally utilities or modules:
open (FILE, '<', "complicated.txt");
[root@shell ~]# ./echostuff.pl
Why do you have to go and make things so complicated?
I see the way you're acting like you're somebody else gets me frustrated
PS D:\OneDrive\Documents> gc .\abc.txt
I'm gonna teach you
How to sing it out
Sing it out, sing it out
Sing it, sing it
A B C it's easy
It's like counting up to 3
"slow and full of undocumented 'features"
You... do know it's Open Source right? Here's the landing page for Powershell 7's github repository, and also the very, very extensive documentation, above and beyond that included with cmdlets and updated in-environment using the update-help cmdlet
"you only learn about after paying a consultancy that regularly swipes the credit card with MS."
So... you or your employer paid someone for expertise in a programming language you had no resource in? How is this different from every single other programming language, or IT discipline?
"You mean a professor from the country that gave Thalidomide to the world? Or the one that cheated on diesel engines emissions? Would you trust those companies too?"
That would be the Thalidomide currently being used as the main line treatment being given to my mother for Multiple Myeloma. A tragically incorrect use case does not somehow automatically negate the value of a discovery.
Yeah, I'd forgotten about that as well. Amusingly, the files are copied via modem in the space of seconds and our hero's techie sidekick declares that decrypting the bad guy's files will take "a few minutes". Some things never change, and Hollywood's depiction of magical technology is one of them.
"RIP Linux... It was nice knowing you.
Mines the coat with the Microsoft logo on it. I'd be happy to help any of you escape the SJW gulag if you want."
So... are you saying that if you were to post in Microsoft-related forums with expletive-packed rants (and in your case not-particularly veiled homophobia) nobody would object? I suspect you are incorrect, and I suspect your post tells us more about you than any issue with the Code of Conduct for the Linux Community.
"Galileo works "in combination" with GPS and is rather easy to block again not something you want in modern warfare"
No, you wouldn't want it modern warfare, because it isn't for modern or any other kind of warfare. Galileo is *interoperable* with GPS, GLONASS, etc. It does not rely on GPS, and is not, nor was it ever a military system.
"I set myself up a gmail account specifically for work, all my internal company mail goes to O365, all external to gmail."
I'm sure it shouldn't need saying, but this is typically a gigantic no-no. If the company has a proper security policy and AUP you are violating them both. If they don't, they should and you would be violating them both.
Depending on your correspondence/job you might also be violating privacy/data protection laws in a manner that leaves you and your employer liable.
""Gibiru is the preferred Search Engine for Patriots." and does absolutely nothing on my browser except a lot of self-praise."
It does not use a certificate - default connection is to http, so your searches are in the clear for anyone who happens to be looking.
It also appears to use the Google API for search, which is hardly reassuring in terms of privacy, and the ability of Google to literally just switch it off if they choose. Plus the site blurb makes me think it was bashed together by a collection of raging fruitloops, so there's that.
"How foolish they were to turn down the advantages of the cradle-to-grave surveillance system that was the National Identity Card Scheme and it's infamous "National Identity Register""
Turned it down, yes. Or at least temporarily dodged the bullet until the idea is resurrected and whispered in the instinctively authoritarian ear of whichever IT illiterate twit is Home Secretary at the time.
"Despair over Brexit and Trump?
Might be the prevailing sentiment of El Reg staff or Situation Publishing, but trust me, many of us think they are the two best things to have happened in 2016."
The tedious orange tool may yet prove to be the last thing to happen in or to 2018, given his manifest mental illness and his apparent belief that first use might be fun.
"Sounds like he wants to be able to force people to give up passwords & keys
Not attempt the impossible trick of making secure encryption with a government backdoor."
For the last 18-odd years the government here in Blighty has had the legal means to force the surrender of encryption keys on pain of imprisonment (RIPA 2000). I'm pleased to report this has prevented all terrorism and we live a life of unfettered bliss in these Sceptred Isles, secure under the watchful gaze of Big Brother.
"I thought we weren't supposed to talk about them."
So they're like the entities of the Cthulhu Mythos, those that shall not be named? I started forewarned and repentant. Hopefully I haven't completed the summoning of that which lurks on the threshold (of mainstream computing).
"I mean seriously? Other than anti-establishment SJWs and solicitors looking for their next meal ticket why would anyone give a toss about this? The chances of Mr Average IT person who hasn't signed the official secrets act ever being called up by GCHQ is so vanishingly small that its virtually non existent."
There is always a delightfully uninformed uniformity to your alt-right buzzword-packed trollograms. I'm an average IT guy at a multinational and I can certainly think of a scenario where this would be a possibility.
The clue being "multinational", the significance being the nations in question.
"Love to know the rationale for this statement; having worked on IT 'products' with an intended operational life measured in decades..."
Try sticking Windows 7 on this year's Ultrabooks and let us know how you get on. You've worked on products with a intended operational life measured in decades - but most businesses now work with hardware with an intended operational life measured in single-digit numbers of years.. The key word in each case is "intended."
"Security should be the number one concern of any IT appliance, unfortunately it generally feels to be last minute, rushed and under-appreciated."
Along with the sheer lack of interest in actually providing security fixes thanks to perception of these devices as disposable commodity items.
"Babyminders, stuffed toys, surveillance cameras, nobody's life is in danger when these things get taken over."
You appear to be limiting your assessment of the possibilities.
Police officer. "We're very sorry for your loss sir. We think they used the cameras to establish that your wife was home alone..."
"Ooh! Hasn't he given up his USA citizenship or does he pay the annual Federal taxes on what he earns here and else where?
The people need to know!"
Yes on both counts, the first earlier this year, and the latter prior to that. He didn't enjoy contributing to the US Treasury coffers, that much is clear.
"And I'm not a fashion whore."
You heard it here first folks. Opposition to a narcissistic crook, sexual predator, bigot, con-artist, pathological liar, possible traitor and science denier being in the White House is fashionable. Who knew? For your information I'm from Scotland and we hated him with passion and reason long before his name ever stained your ballot papers.
I'm also amused that you thought "utterly paralysed, perpetually scandal-hit global laughing stock government" would be preferable to "big government", but I guess it takes all sorts.
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