* Posts by ModFodder

11 publicly visible posts • joined 1 Jul 2014

Sorry, chaps! We didn't mean to steamroller legit No-IP users – Microsoft

ModFodder

Re: Alarming

"Microsoft would shut you down well before that happened."

The Microsoft upon who's sloppy code a multi billion dollar security industry has grown protecting people from M$'s neglect and ineptitude?

I suspect that you might be able to leave an elephant in the lobby and nobody would notice it provided that it was a reasonably quiet elephant.

ModFodder

*I think it may be time to speak with an attorney

So... anyone else seeing anything actually fixed?

Perhaps my 1990s text MUD looks like malware to them, because the packets are all clear text and easily human readable.

If the only accounts that are supposed to be nerfed right now are criminal accounts then Microsoft is basically calling me a criminal.

Microsoft's anti-malware crusade knackers '4 MILLION' No-IP users

ModFodder

"Lets see you prove it in court with just some logs and no proof..."

You mean in a secret trial where I can present unsubstantiated allegations and point to a log that says nothing much more than, "OMG they have internet activity?"

A trial in which no notice would be given to Microsoft and they wouldn't have their 4th amendment right to confront their accuser with opposing evidence?

A trial in which I could expect a fallacious assertion like "microsoft facilitates distribution of pedophilia images because 95% of such images are recorded, edited, and distributed using their products, to go unchallenged by their defense lawyers because they would be excluded from even knowing about the trial? Just as they have done themselves here...

Interesting that you should demand evidence from someone who just suggested that under these very conditions that he might exploit the same law Microsoft has used here.

:Let's see when this comes to class status if Microsoft can demonstrate that a DNS "provides malware" where the DNS protocol doesn't have any use other than to point at the people who ARE providing the malware.

Let's see if they can defend what will likely be billions in dollars of losses by people who have been more than trivially inconvenienced by this overt abuse.

Let's see if this sets a precedent by which their EULA disclaimer becomes null and void and they becomde financially and or criminally liable for publishing software so inept that fucking children are publishing hacks for it.

Let's see how long MS lasts if they lose the coming case.

and let's see how long they last if they win.

They have painted themselves into a corner... What they have done here, can be done to them by others.

ModFodder

Re: Let's clear it up...

Because 100% of all systems which fall victim to windows exploits run windows OSs...

Sounds like a pretty clear-cut impeachment of microsoft.

We should have MS seized because they facilitate windows exploits by publishing vulnerable OSs?

ModFodder

Re: How much will M$ pay me

Rendition the judge to dev/null without a trial

ModFodder

Re: Good thing...

an audit trail? Seriously?

You know what a DNS server does, yes?

It points to an IP and says... "that's the guy you are looking for."

ModFodder

Re: No-IP should use digitally signed DNS

Really?

You rant about what no-ip.com should do and then ask what their business does?

Since Google seems to be out of your reach, I'll explain.

No-IP.com is a DNS provider who have a portion of their service free to non-commercial use.

Just like Google has paid services that afford them the ability to offer free services.

DNSSEC does nothing that prevents some punk from registering a domain name.

It is a protocol designed to prevent cache poisoning and zone enumeration.

Basically you have no idea what you are talking about but for some reason this doesn't seem to restrain your urge to let us all know that you don't.

ModFodder

Re: Punishing the victims

Which is irrelevant.

That's indistinguishable from saying, "We ought to turn over control of the internet to microsft because there are spammers, crackers and trolls. If you were to attempt to remove them from just one service they would just turn it into a game of whack-a-mole."

Yeah... that.

Here's an idea.

Take action against the IP the name resolves to and leave the masses of people just hosting a home website or game server for friends and family the hell out of it.

By "tip off" the people using a free service that doesn't exactly hold any vested interest for no-ip.com, you must mean that the malware author might become aware that they had been discovered if their account was terminated for violations of ToS? Sorta like microsoft shouldn't be trusted to handle spam on Hotmail.com because they will obviously only warn their "malware customers."

Let me know when you sort through that head-full of cognitive dissonance and can offer something that doesn't reek of malicious gossip and overt fallacy.

ModFodder

Re: Bet your life...

because a fallacy of equivocation seems more reasonable to you if it comes from someone other than Microsoft?

Software will do nothing more and nothing less than what it is coded to do. If a malware exploits an unintended feature of a software, it means that the fault lies with the intention of the coder who wrote it by failing to frame the function of the code specifically enough.

Those who exploit such weaknesses in software are annoying but how is that a responsibility of any but the writer of the code being exploited and the writer of the code exploiting it?

Would you sue your neighhbor for owning a car, just because someone else hit you with a car?

Is membership to the set All People Who Own Cars an attribute which makes all car owners guilty for the actions of one? If you got hit by the car because the driver was doing something stupid, but you weren't watching where you were walking either, shouldn't you share the blame for the consequences?

Why should your neighbor share any of the consequences just by owning a car?

ModFodder

@ RTNavy

So, by this you mean to say that Iraq is an ubiquitous population and that the actions of a few people reflect upon an entire population... and that therefore all users of no-ip.com then are guilty of the actions of that group by virtue of their using no-ip.com's services...

What about the email services they also used?

Should hotmail.com be included in that fallacy of composition?

Should Microsoft be held responsible because the malware was written to exploit Windows code?

ModFodder

Microsoft's Fallacy of Equivocation

What Microsoft alleges is that no-up.com is evil, because it found evidence of evil on a few no-ip.com subdomains.

Because spammers, scammers, crakers and trolls NEVER use Hotmail.com.

Bottom feeders use whatever resources present themselves including Microsoft's own services.

A DNS service isn't even passing questionable data traffic, it's just pointing to the IP that is.

This is similar to shooting all persons with the surname Jones, because someone named Jones pulled a gun.

The judge who thought this made sense doesn't belong on the bench.