I'm a little surprised they didn't suggest installing LO on the existing W10 as a first step, just to show the sky doesn't fall in if you venture outside the Microsoft cage.
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LibreOffice adds voice to 'ditch Windows for Linux' campaign
Japan builds near $700M fund to lure foreign academic talent
Put Large Reasoning Models under pressure and they stop making sense, say boffins
It isn't clear how humans make expert decisions
And that can apply to questions that don't require much expertise at all. I'm not sure if it's been superseded but the standard book from my student days for identifying British seed-bearing plants stands about 2" thick, printed on thin paper and consists of a key, mostly binary but sometimes offering more choices, and s series of descriptions to check. It represented the combined knowledge of three leading botanists of the time. It's the sort of thing you might end up with if you asked a group of experts to codify their knowledge in their particular domain.
Following it you could, in a few minutes, identify an oak tree assuming it was in flower. A machine could probably follow it although it would have to do quite a bit of image analysis to answer the questions in the key. OTOH most people in Britain will be able to identify an oak tree from just the leaf at a glance. We don't identify things we know, nor diagnose things in our area of expertise, by following a decision tree - we just know them and it's very difficult to put how we know into words in a way that can be communicated to another human let alone a learning machine.
Salesforce study finds LLM agents flunk CRM and confidentiality tests
Eurocops arrest suspected Archetyp admin, shut down mega dark web drug shop
BT chief says AI could deliver more job cuts, hints at Openreach sell-off
"open to selling off any part of BT, including its infrastructure arm, Openreach"
Yes that went well when BT decided it didn't need a mobile network part of the business so obviously it can manage without a wired network either.
The fact that it later had to buy one of its former competing mobile networks at the cost of about a third of its shares is neither here nor there.
Microsoft adds export option to Windows Recall in Europe
Spy school dropout: GCHQ intern jailed for swiping classified data
Re: Bethan David, head of the counter terrorism division at the CPS, said
True, but I'm not sure that the general public know that. "Signing the Officiel Secrets Act" is just an acknowledgement that you've been told - although if you sign things without reading it first you might sign it without having been told.
Re: Imagine if he'd hoovered up millions for useless PPE, or....
Unless you've been in complete isolation except for this one news story you must be well aware that there were a number of determined attempts to do this just this, prevented only by substantial police operations and fanned by just such posts. So no, it is not trivial.
Perhaps you are too young to remember the several thousand deaths mostly in N Ireland but spiling over into the rest of the UK and Irish republic. They too were fanned by words - and many from what you might well describe as middle class people if you think that makes them in some manner less likely to incite hatred. And in those days words didn't have the amplifying power of alleged social media to assist them.
It is not a change of political wind to condemn such provocation, not is it loony. Incitement it violence is incitement to violence at any time and, just as the incited violence would be, it needs to be treated as the crime that it is.
Re: Imagine if he'd hoovered up millions for useless PPE, or....
"who was probably flogging state secrets to a foreign entity"
Not supported by the evidence nor, AFAICS, believed by the prosecution but no doubt you have the usual clearer vision than those who have dealt with the case at greater length.
Danish department determined to dump Microsoft
Re: Outlook and SharePoint?
You just don't grok it at all, do you? Let's look at your post:
" their auto-upgraded (strictly no choice) mail client and collaborative filesystem"
What mail client and collaborative software will they be using in future? It doesn't say in TFA. You seem to be making some assumption not in evidence, including that auto-upgrades can't be blocked at the firewall.
"start to methodically stuff LibreOffice integration in carefully-crafted-to-be-unfathomable ways?"
You seem to be assuming that whatever they use would do that. Again, no evidence that it would or even that they'd choose something that would.
Remember they're doing this to get away from any dependency on Microsoft online services so you can discount Exchange and if you discount Exchange then you can probably also discount Outlook because there'd be no reason to retain it, especially, given, as you point out, this is subject to upgrades from Microsoft.
The conversation is going to be more along the lines of:
Minister: We're going to move away from Microsoft Office to a FOSS alternative, Libre Office.
Manager: Why?
Minister: {Statement of government policy relating to data sovereignty which should be too well known by el Reg readers to state in full here but as this is Denmark might also mention Greenland}
Manager: But I don't know how to use that.
Minister: This department exists to introduce digital technology to the rest of the government. You are telling me you don't have the skills to work here.
Manager:
"As a corporation, decide what you're doing; tell people it is happening; then do it decisively."
Even more so in this case. This is a government dept. and the project is driven by the minister. It's the department digitising the rest of the government so being the one who says you can't handle it is not going to be a good look and ultimately it's going to be the department that decides which way the rest of the govt. is going to go.
Re: Replacing Office is the easy part
Part of the objective seems to be to get away from dependence on any commercial provider so that wouldn't count although it at least European in origin. However, if you want the ribbon interface in LibreOffice then from the main menu it's View>User Interface... Click Tabbed, click Apply
Re: To reckon a guess...
"I'd say that in year or two some high ranking official will come in and throw a fit about how they want Office back"
In this case it's likely they will be referred to the minister* who has made this a policy. Declaring that you can't manage to use what the minister herself is using might result in questions as to exactly how this high rank is justified.
* For avoidance of doubt, that means higher ranking.
Re: how to do it in half a dozen mouse clicks
"Entities flogging e-books produced from scans of theses or academic publications may be caught out by this"
Judging by spams to soc.genealogy.medieval before the Google wrecking ball I gained the impression that many doing this were neither interested in legality, so won't be affected, and were unable to tell the difference between medieval and medical.
Re: Well good luck, seriously ...
Why would they not? Times have changed. Nobody in Denmark is going to take a US company's shmoozing seriously these days. There's no reason why they wouldn't be able to make it work. If there are edge cases in the form of really complex spreadsheets they might have to take a look and replace them with properly written and stable solutions.
Goof news. But the English language article cited contains this remarkable passage:
But changing to user-driven open source systems is also not without challenges, Damsgaard noted.
“If you don’t have a member of staff who can develop the system, you can’t implement it,” he said.
This is FUD. That would only apply if they need specific modifications. It's something that FOSS makes possible but with a mature product such as LibreOffice this is unlikely; after all they've been using MS products without such modifications for years (I'm guessing here but it seems a pretty sound guess).
The launch of ChatGPT polluted the world forever, like the first atomic weapons tests
Windows 95 testing almost stalled due to cash register overflow
The worst I ever say was really short lengths in the postal address fields. The users were just wrapping one address line into the next - it was all they could do. I think it was because the program was Cobollox with a lot of thinking held over from the days of tape. They had a fixed record length and it was applied to everything. Only N characters available for addresses. Allow for 4 lines and N/4 is what you get. 16 characters (or whatever it was) should be enough for anyone.
Forget Vibe Coding, we're all about Vine Coding nowadays
As RHEL clones hit version 10, Rocky and Alma chart diverging paths
Meta offered one AI researcher at least $10,000,000 to join up
I'm just a Barbie Girl in a ChatGPT world
Wanted: Junior cybersecurity staff with 10 years' experience and a PhD
Re: Let's be clear
I suspect that some of these problems can often be laid at the door of ISO 9000 and its friends and relations.
Scene: Quality manual is being written
Wallah 1. We come to minimum experience need for any job.
Wallah 2. It can't be just anybody. All jobs must be done with somebody with good experience.
Wallay 3. How about 5 years?
Wallah 2. Sounds good to me. Should that be the current version of whatever it is they're using?
Wallah 3. That must be right. In fact current versions of anything should always be used.
Wallah 2. I'll go along with that.
Wallah 1. And me. I'll put that down.
And hence we have a requirement to use stuff which is never more than 2 years old and those needing it need to have been using it for at least 5 years.
UK unis to cough up to £10M on Java to keep Oracle off their backs
Ubuntu 25.10 and Fedora 43 to drop X11 in GNOME editions
There always seemed to be a problem that if a file was written by Office N in its default format and tent to a user of Office N - m where m was any positive integer then Office N - m would barf at it so as to get the user to upgrade.
I've even seen a heavily macroed Word 3 document capable of freezing to the point of Big Red Switch time a PC not running the exact same version of 3, just on attempting to open it. (LibreOffice wouldn't open it either but not so terminally.)
Slapped wrists for Financial Conduct Authority staff who emailed work data home
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