Re: shipping it around
"The only way to dispose of stuff created in the first world is to dispose of it in the first world."
OTOH most of it seems to be created in China these days.
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Sometimes we agree. Jobs, and that means top jobs, need to be on the line and without golden goodbyes an case of failure.
I'd love to have the first A/C and the trust CEO appear together before the PAC. Ask the CEO their salary and then ask the A/C how much they could accomplish with that sum.
"So what happens if, as I think I've read has been proposed, the US pass a law making it a statutory requirement for internet regstrars based in the US to make all this info publically available?"
I'd wondered about the existing situation in regard to that.
As far as can seen ICANN's role is not statutory. If the US were to make such a move and try to make it apply to non-US residents, effectively making the net US property, the likely consequence would be a push by other governments to move the whole internet under ITU. I don't think the US or most of the internet users would want that.
"Then there's Companies House: I do a lot of research using its data"
In which case I'm quite sure that, despite your protestations, you're aware that CH filings are statutory. Statutory data isn't affected by GDPR. It would appear that your complaint isn't about GDPR but about company law relating to what's accepted in filings.
"A very common misconception but not quite true. If you want to have an office based within the EU then any business performed from it must be compliant with EU laws."
And your second sentence also isn't quite true. It would mean that you couldn't send anyone over to conduct business in the EU nor would you be able to appoint agents there. In practical terms it would make it difficult to do business on a large scale if you couldn't do that.
"The EU does not forbid its citizens from seeking services outside the EU with organisations to which EU laws do not apply."
Apart from the logistical issues such an organisation would have to contend with being gaining a sleazy reputation. And if the nature of the service were B2B then its customers would be at risk.
"This would be news to most, well, everyone."
It shouldn't be news to anyone responsible for holding personal data of European residents. It wasn't even news to ICANN; they just hoped if they ignored it it would go away.
It would really be irresponsible of the EU to grant them a stay of execution. If they did that every other toe-rag in the data exploiting industry in the world would be queuing up next day. I think we can all guess who'd muscle to the front of the queue.
And didn't the US set up a new data protection ombudsman recently to "protect" EU data held in the US? Not law, mind you, just an "agreement" and a "promise"
Did they actually get round to appointing the actual official rather than a deputy? In any event, what was the department responsible for that? Wasn't it Commerce?
"So screw them. ICANN should just move all registrations in the EU to registrars outside of it."
There is an alternative. The rest of the world stops regarding ICANN as guardian ruler of that joint enterprise, the internet. They treat one of the existing DNS root mirrors as the definitive root, make any changes to that and point the other mirrors to it.
US businesses will have to go along with that if they want to be seen by the rest of the world. The most that would be left to ICANN would be to mirror the new root and just keep up the face-saving pretence to the US public of being in charge.
"Which is exactly what we'd imagine you would allege if you were trying to deflect attention away from the fact someone on your staff bungled and put the wrong files on the public internet."
Actually, no. I'd expect them to quietly fix the problem and do everything possible to avoid publicising that it ever happened. Are any of them called Streisand?
"I'm sure these people realise that once you pass laws where you can obtain data then the people whose data they want will just move it somewhere they can't get it."
I don't think they do. The thought patterns of legislators are such that they must believe that if they forbid something everyone wanting to do that will simply avoid their efforts. The history of taxation or banning of alcohol, for instance, has provided centuries long evidence of this in the form of smuggling and illicit distillation.
Living inside a bubble where a host of employees including the most senior officials are doing their bidding* seems to convince those who've reached the top of the government tree that they really are all-powerful.
* Or at least persuading them they are.
"I imagine this will involve a lot of banging my head against a wall at least until GDPR kicks off, but I'm going to keep badgering them out of principle."
Maybe the best approach is to lay it on the line for them: "Do you want to deal with it now or would you rather wait until GDPR applies?".
"Some sort of cross between taxi and car share seems viable."
What do you want out of a car? A reasonably clean vehicle available when you want it? With your own car the degree of cleanliness is what you decide is what's worth putting in the effort and availability is assured by not competing with someone else for the vehicle. Can you guarantee either with the taxi/car share model, especially if you want the car to go to work in at the same time as most other people?
"And that year, it will be pointed out that although 50% of the cars on the road are human driven, those 50% are responsible for 99.9% of the deaths."
That makes an assumption as to the relative driving abilities of self-driving vehicles vs tired and drunk humans. That remains to be established.
I also note that some people showing users ( or running training) will omit steps, because they are "obvious."
I used to find this was a problem with schoolteachers. If it was a subject that fitted your thought patterns, no problem. If it wasn't you got left behind trying to puzzle out one thing when they'd moved to another.
"Could just shove that down the back and take a photo, then enlarge it - and get something readable."
Our gas service man tried that with the pilot assembly the other day. Still couldn't read it and went to get his torch. Took my glasses off (short sight) and found it perfectly readable by Mk 1 eyeball. Sometimes you can go over the top with technology.