* Posts by Doctor Syntax

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systemd 256.1: Now slightly less likely to delete /home

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Re: Not sure I really understand the need for systemd

I'm running Linux without systemd on a laptop. I shut it down when I'm not using it si reboot several times a day. It helps that the system drive is SSD but even without that time to reboot is not an issue, neither is maintenance of the init system.

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FAIL

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltzer_and_Schroeder's_design_principles :

Fail-safe defaults: Base access decisions on permission rather than exclusion.

That's the second of them. Before that we come to:

Economy of mechanism: Keep the design as simple and small as possible.

There's also:

Least common mechanism: Minimize the amount of mechanism common to more than one user and depended on by all users.

So much fail.

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Re: What's it Actually For?

"I'm now needlessly and (so it would seem) complicatedly dependent on the behaviour of the tool."

Several tools are involved.

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Re: ...Boccassi is Poettering's colleague at Microsoft

You missed out how to deal with the big non-commercial distro, Debian. But there was a Microsoft pattern to deal with that.

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Re: Did anyone of us actually ask for systemd?

Onix, the Zilog port was done by Interactive who, I believe, did the original AIX port for IBM. It also had some odd ideas about config files IIRC.

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Re: Did anyone of us actually ask for systemd?

As epbf depends on an in-kernel verifier it would still need to get past Linus who might need to forswear his forswearing of sewaring.

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Re: Another name for the list

I don't think Rob Pike should be added to the list.

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Re: axes to grind

You do realise that the reply why it is perfectly fine came from a Microsoft employee, don't you?

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Re: Init marvellous

CADT

Cat And Dog Training?

Computer Aided Disaster Technology?

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Re: "Too complex!" aka lennart and his team couldn't be bothered to read the docs

Looking at the follow-up article on /. it appears that he learned too well at the feet of the master when it comes to user support. Other systemdefilers, including the master himself, seem to have come out with comments to the effect that this wasn't a Good Idea.

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Re: Too complex!

Or a rational aversion to spending excessive amounts of money.

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I suppose that might have been thought about in advance and dealt with. Unlike some we could think of.

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As the systemd crowd like doing thins in the most convoluted way possible are we to take it that this is their replacement for rm -rf /*

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Re: What's it Actually For?

From my PoV your last paragraph can be applied to the entire lot.

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Re: Did anyone of us actually ask for systemd?

Previous attempts have ended up on the rough end of Linus' tongue and not doubt further attempts will go the same way.

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Re: Alt.rec.aystemd.die.die.die

The kids removed the soc.genealogy hierarchy which finally silenced a sorm of spam which had been running for months. Unfortunately either multiple attempts to explain how to post to Usenet had failed to get through to the Groupies or,more likely, the spammers had driven everyone else away.

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IIRC /../ was the Newcastle Connection's way of accessing the network. Not that I ever had chance to do more than read about it but it seemed a really elegant way of expressing it. Whatever followed was the name of another machine on the network.

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Re: Too complex!

both one is Unix-like

FTFY

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Re: Too complex!

"Plan9 is the poster child for a solution looking for a problem."

You could almost say that about systemd, except that that is the problem.

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Re: Too complex!

"it made sense to come up with a system that could replace maintaining all those init files."

All those init files just stay there doing their job. Very seldom do you have to "maintain" them and if you do they're so transparent as to function that you can develop and test from the terminal, stepping through them if necessary.

"Regrettably, it is getting much more difficult to find a non-systemd Linux distribution."

Devuan.

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"These tools are written and maintained by small teams of mere humans, and humans mess up occasionally."

More to the point, they're used by humans with the same limitations. And it's a bit much to hide behind "It does what it says on the tin." when what it says on the tin is "tmpfiles".

I think I'll continue to stay systemd-free.

Guess how much stored data is ever used or accessed

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Re: So, up to 80% of stored data is unused

There are also such things as legal requirements to hold data for 6 or 7 years or whatever. The Horizon & Covid enquiries in the UK are showing the significance of stored records on one hand (especially for those witnesses who were able to produce a paper trail) and the significance of having deleted Whatsapp messages on the other.

NASA finds humanity would totally fumble asteroid defense

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This was an exercise. It lacked something: reality. The threat of extinction concentrates the mind wonderfully.

The X Window System is still hanging on at 40

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Re: Gimmee NeWS

Then Oracle will be round to do the audits.

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Re: Network access

Yup. Just partition the requirements. Secure environment proviedes client(s0, network layer provides security, X server provides UI services.

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Re: Network access

It's very simple. If you are running a database system you have one server and many clients. In the same way you run a UI system you have one server, multiple clients. Your mistake is to assume that what's immediately in front of you must be a client. It isn't. It provides a service. It's a server irrespective of whether the clients are local or remote.

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And it's a very strange world where "legacy" is term of abuse. The house I live in now is a legacy from my parents. It's a good place to live. I dare say when SWMBO & I have shuffled off our mortal coils the kids will make good use of their lagacies (if we haven't spent it all first).

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Your X server provides interface services to several clients, the applications. That's the usual ratio in client server setups - 1 server, multiple clients/ There's nothing inconsistent about it.

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Re: The only problem with Wayland is that ...

Forget about restructuring, just rename it X12 anyway. They won't know any different.

BOFH: Why's the network so slow?

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Going to sleep on the train .... the story of all our lives.

X boss Elon Musk tries to make nice with world at ad biz conference

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Re: Mark Reads' apparently quite the curveball :o

It says a lot about his degree of self-awareness that he didn't anticipate it and have a smoothly worded answer ready.

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Re: He can't promise they won't show up next to objectionable content

"it could understand the postings"

No, it couldn't. The best it could do would be to analyse context and determine whether the terms were being used positively or, as you use them, negatively. Even then it would fail on Poe's law.

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Re: You told us to sort of go fuck ourselves.

The billion viewers don't pay the advertising industry. The advertisers do. The question is, will the advertisers pay the advertising industry to go back?

Oracle Java license teams set to begin targeting Oracle users who don't think they use Oracle

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Re: Oracle

And they're cheaper.

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Re: Simple solution

Judging by the report the problem might be people in your organisation that you don't know about. Best to run your own audit, just in case.

Half of Dell US staff reportedly opted for remote work

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So why should potential customers or, indeed, shareholders believe anything else Jeff Clarke night say? And why should any company planning on having staff work remotely buy from a company which doesn't rely on its products to facilitate that for its own staff?

Battery electric vehicles lose their spark in Europe as hybrids steal the show

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Re: EV

Overnight charging wouldn't rely on solar.

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I think it's not so much economic logic as the need to satisfy multiple and perhaps conflicting individual requirements.

Study employs large language models to sniff out their own bloopers

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Re: Monkeys and Bananas...

But fruit flies like a banana.

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Re: Not necessarily

Pat may also be a company and cannot, therefore ride in the car. Also would the LLM be able to distinguish the difference between the casual statement that the fleet manager purchases a car and the stricter statement that the fleet manager raises a purchasing order for the car? Would two different LLMs take single different views on the matter and not be able to reconcile them as not being in conflict?

Microsoft's new Surface Laptop 7 has arrived. The recovery images have not

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Re: Does it run Linux?

Non-Linux users seem to have a lot in common with permies. Lacking the self-confidence giving it (Linux or freelancing as the case may be) a try, when they come here they carp about it being too complicated, immoral or whatever excuse they can come up with for lacking initiative.

In fact it's easy enough to download a live image and test ot from USB although personally I'd assume that where there own H/W is concerned Microsoft will throw as many roadblocks as possible in the way and not waste my money trying.

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Does Joe Public decide that the first thing they want to do is swap the SSD? In fact, does Joe Public even take the step of making a restore image?

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Testing can result in success or failure. Why risk the latter on a working medium? If the intention was to use it to swap media then do that rather then risk a working device.

Australian billionaire wins right to sue Facebook in the US over scam ads

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Re: Communincating with Facebook requires a Facebook registration

You've probably left it a bit late by now but like any other corporation Facebook will have a postal address. You can always use that. If you have a valid case a summons delivered there will bring them to court or the judge will want to know the reason why. How do you think Forrest got them to court?

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Re: "won the right to sue Meta"

Unless Australian law has greatly deviated from UK it would be a civil rather than a criminal offence and not within the DPP's scope. In fact, it seems rather odd that he would have expected the DPP to have acted on a charge of libel.

However I'd have thought promoting a scam would fall in scope although the fact that his image was being used might not have fiven him the same standing as a victim of a scam when it comes to making a complaint.

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Re: It's one thing to say...

If the law protects them in one regard and not in another then it's a legal difference which is more than just a qualitative difference.

Nearly 20% of running Microsoft SQL Servers have passed end of support

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Re: Just Maybe

The problem is not new features. The problem is pulling existing features. One cannot build on shifting sand.

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Re: Overlooked Scenarios

If it's custom software paid for by the user organisation the contract should ensure thay have current code. If not contract should insist on code copy kept in escrow, preferably checked from time to time to ensure its being kept up to date and not encrypted. Users need to look after their interests.

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Re: Microsoft has deliberately made it difficult

This is true up to a point but the reasons for maintenance should not include the platform vendor deprecating some feature as part of an alleged upgrade other than some undocumented "feature" which was relied on by the application.

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Re: Microsoft has deliberately made it difficult

"Windows has always been an accident waiting to happen"

More like an accident that happens frequently.

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