Posts by TechYogJosh 18 publicly visible posts • joined 8 May 2014
Companies will bundle and discount their offerings, what is to cry here? When a company delivers broad set of services they can optimize their costs and pass on the benefits to the clients. Most tech vendors do play wrong and Msoft is no exception, but this bundling centric discount and higher price for other cloud, appears to be a legitimate business strategy than something which is legally wrong.
Well you are reading and commenting on the same "tat producing" analyst, so there must be something. It seems it is fashionable for IT folks to trash industry analysts like Gartner and feel good about their own petty lives. These people shape the industry and vendors build what they say, which means you continue to be employed. Show some respect
People casually say companies putting return to work in place will lose staff. Where the staff will go? If most of the companies have similar hybrid work policies, there wont be too many options. Also blaming the senior executives doesnt make sense as they themselves may not want to come to office, but have to due to collective mandate. Its impossible to tell now, only hindsight will, which model is/was better and how many days in office are ideal etc. Till then lets just keep aligning with company policies. The talent market has cooled and no one is out there to hire so many people if they want to leave their current firm protesting return to work initiatives.
Wow such fear mongering still exists? Whatever may be Europe has no credible alternative to AWS, Azure, and GCP, in fact no credible alternative to any US-tech, but it has to float in its delusional glory that it can create local cloud. Most of these local cloud are reseller of the three hyperscalers or itsy bitsy irrelevant players. They arent getting wiped out because of people like quoted in this article. Yes there may be case for some specific workloads to follow what is said above, but if that was case for all enterprise tech the US-based cloud providers would not have been growing like crazy. So Europe needs to stop being a cry baby and smell the coffee of change.
Typical of Theregister cribbing readers of just blaming the entire world, seeing malicious intent of tech vendors, bemoaning about every new tech being bad, and never focusing on solution. So, if everything is bad, what should we do, close down business and go home. Who will pay salaries to SAP employees, you SAP technical people, and others? How will we move ahead with newer tech or keep clinching to old stuff because of some random nostalgia? Please bring some solution on this forum or else shut up. Being cynical is easy, pulling down people who are doing something is easy, and giving gyaan showing how good/cool you is easy, but solving a problem, taking the world ahead is challenging. Do it, and you will know you cynical losers
Irrespective whether developers or others, including people commenting here like it or not, low-code is a big and growing market. Which means people are buying it. We can always crib that they are doing wrong, but this crib has happened before, multiple times like in cloud adoption, ERP adoption, dot com adoption etc. So cribbers crib and people who want to drive change (whether good or bad, based on how we see) change the world, earn lot of money, and move to next problems. People like us who comment on article like these just vent our frustration. What if any one of the people commenting here get a job at some low code vendor at good money (because they can afford) will they decline? Most likely, not. Net of it, get in line and help to assess how these things can be made better and be more useful than just summarily rejecting it. Cynicism is good only to a point.
The irony is that all the so called senior execs taking these life changing decisions for other lowly employees are themselves old. Why arent these senior execs sacked then? How old is Giny Rometty? The point is people in delivery and technical jobs are the ones selected for retrenchment. It is unfortunate but true. It seems seeing youngster around gives a feeling of change and newness in tech, not sure how it is on the ground. If salaries are the issue, they should cut the salaries and let the employees know their wont be any raises going forward. See if the employee wants to continue or not? At least give a chance.
Looks like people got a free day to vent their ire against Gartner. Like it or not, people do care about what Gartner says, at least people who matter. Folks, possibly like in these comments, who are busy in nut bolts of IT, and are largely irrelevant in bigger scheme of things, may crib about Gartner, criticize them, ridicule them, the truth is you write so much about someone only when that someone matters. So believe or not, your saying so many things about Gartner implies you also know they matter.
Irrespective of all SFDC's claim, its still a CRM company. Oracle and SAP never really had a meaningful CRM play. They were/are ERP companies and SFDC is not present in ERP at all. Therefore, they all may be targeting different markets but yes with some overlaps. It seems SFDC has done a better job in consumerizing its interfaces that are easy sell than an Oracle or SAP. More so the sales structure of SFDC and commissions are probably better or well aligned to the sales force objectives. The technology driving SFDC is nothing great or differentiated. Therefore, most innovation must be around "out hosting" CRM to avoid headache of infrastructure than meaningful value addition.
Well, guys in UK or US were not good enough to make these company grow against the onslaught of Indian vendors. Were they? If not, then they should shut up. There is no case for keeping the work in these high cost locations where people drink more beer and coffee than work, take more leaves than work. It seems folks in these locations end up blaming everyone else, but never question if there company (which means they) were so great why they are getting screwed? Why isn't an HPE or an IBM growing despite the so called investments or cloud or digital or whatever? And then the same guys preached "division of labor", didn't they? So now when the division is hurting, why complain?
The assumption is moving support to lower cost countries is wrong because it damages the customer support? Same thing happened to offshore-outsourcing and despite all the problems and biases of market observers, the offshore-based outsourcing is thriving. Listen, if the customers get to save nickle and dime, they are fine compromising on support. However, this may have a life and Oracle may have to revisit it soon the way many large enterprises are rethinking their outsourcing strategies. But we must understand that a company first needs to make enough money to run and survive, and then think about other things. These tough decisions are part of that. More so if you have a butcher like Mark Hurd at the helm, you can't expect anything more. Oracle has realized selling new stuff is going to become worse by the day, so the next best thing is to cut as much costs as possible.
Consumer tech is different, but enterprise tech takes a lot of time to sell and is a different ball game. Selling stuff hype does not really work here, unless of course it has become a buzzword where the IT leaders must have them as the CEO is asking about it (in the elevator). The concepts leveraged by each and every single new-age technology company (born after 2000) have always been around. However, repackaging them in something more meaningful, something which is understood better, and is easier to consume is not a small task. Remember, there is limited core tech innovation these days its largely packaging and repackaging the earlier ideas due to the benefit of better virtualization and compute capacity.
Oracle never gave a "true cloud", much like dedicated SaaS hosting (whatever it means). There is no competitor of SFDC or Workday that it has. Still trying to arrest clients in its own "hosted cloud" version with no multi-tenancy, managing multiple instances, customizing etc. Basically doing the same on-premise stuff but now on Oracle's data centers. But it will realize clients can be fooled for some more time, not beyond that. They may not want a public multi-tenant cloud, but dedicated hosted version is like a stupidity. Given the cash and deep pocket, Oracle may continue with its financial re-engineering and call it "cloud", let's say for how long.
Now the cloud naysayers and the on-premise vendors (read Oracle, SAP) will go to town about the challenges in cloud. As if on-premise systems never crashed. Asked any CRM user, these on-premise systems crashed more than they worked. But then their crash was within a company's premise, so never reported. However, in SFDC's case given large number of customers getting impacted, it became a news. Think about it, the chances that your competitors are also using SFDC and perhaps facing the similar downtime challenges are higher (than if it was only your on-premise system that was down). So in a way cloud systems dilutes the business impact of technology downtime, given most competitors are in the same boat.
I wonder why people take pride in not following Gartner's MQ? May be its an ego push that something which a lot of people (ye may be outside your "decision circle") value, you don't give flying frog (whatever that means). If you make decisions based on random bias and predisposition than research, good luck to you. One can always question the research method and neutrality etc., at the same time not giving them any attention is not something useful either. May be this is time for lowly-paid lowly-value and derided procurement people to feel good about their pathetic existence. See I don't follow what Gartner says. Ye, big deal.
These outages are pretty regular in typical enterprise datacenter. However, given its a "cloud story", looks like it is and will get more than its fair share of attention (especially after the Code Space debacle). Incidents like these prevent large clients from leveraging an "off premise" cloud, hosted by a service provider. However, these are the same clients who never adopted "off premise" app hosting either. So I doubt cloud has really changed their thinking from a DR or security perspective. Clients who used external hosting partners earlier are comfortable in leveraging third party cloud providers also (rather than developing cloud on their own assets in their own datacenters). More the things change more they remain the same. Alas !!
Given the "cheap abundance" of underlying technology, developers have little incentive to "do it right the first time" or "do it right effectively and efficiently". When the underlying infrastructure was expensive developers were cagey and cautious and invested time in making good codes. However, unless they use their "time saved" due to underlying cloud (which hides infrastructure implementation), into something meaningful, something which can add business value, cloud will eventually defeat its own existence. The purpose of hiding the details of implementation and making infrastructure cheap, is to make developers invest their time in something more useful and productive than thinking about app specific connectors, communication messaging strategy, load balancing etc. If they cannot do it, cloud becomes useless.
Even the business leaders want to have an integrated vision and working of their technology adoption. They too hate silos. However, in the jest of adopting the next cool technology, many times to appease the hierarchy, they are in a great hurry to adopt first and integrate later. They realize that they can't keep waiting for the best "integrated" solution and prefer to implement the first they see. The CEO or CFO may be asking them about IoT strategy and adoption, and therefore, they comply by adopting irrespective of whether they believe it makes sense or not.
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