Re: Really?
@codejunky
"To have any deal that doesn't come with security guarantees would require 2 honourable parties."
"It depends what you mean by that. If the US has economic interests in Ukraine then the US is more interested in protecting the peace. If the US sends troops to Ukraine with the bloodthirsty lot who want to keep the war going and drag NATO into it then you are looking at WW3."
Trump is just trying to profiteer from his position, nothing would go 'back' to the American people, it all would go to make him, his family and his sponsors/controllers richer. Trump is Corruption with a capital 'C'. He will grift, lie, cheat and steal anything from anyone to make more money. This is the person who kept going to his 'MAGA club' to grift millions not just throughout his presidency, but also after as well.
"Putin is full FSB, a fascist dictator who murders his opponents (both political and otherwise) at home and abroad."
No disagreement there. So why did the west provoke him with Ukraine and why is the west so bloodthirsty to keep the war going? Not willing to directly get involved but also not wanting it to end?
Nobody did anything to provoke Putin, he is an evil bloodthirsty dictator. He invaded Ukraine in 2014 to steal Crimea, and because nobody did a damn thing he continued to destabilise the Donbas and surround regions with both deployed military (dressed as civilians/seperatist fighters) and massive amounts of funding along side disinformation campaigns.
"With proper Ukraine support, Russia wouldn't stand a chance."
It would take more than economic messing about. For one Europe is worthless in this war without the US, our 'leaders' have made that clear, so cutting off our nose to spite our face is stupid. But also the only support that will 'win' the Ukraine war for Ukraine is NATO declaring war on Russia, and NATO is not willing to do so.
I disagree. Europe has already provided more financial assistance than America. America has provided $106bn aid that directly benefits Ukraine, about 50% of this is in the form of military hardware/missiles etc... Europe has provided $145bn so far, with another $53bn committed. Given that Trump/Vance/Musk had a little paddy party and threw their dummy's out because Zelenskyy didn't grovel at their feet, there is much more we need to do, as Europe, to support a democratic nation on our continent from Putin, a mad, vicious, rabid dictator.
"The big problem is Trump"
Of course. He is trying to end a war everyone wants to continue. He must be bad to try and stop the killing. Horrible horrible man. Note that there was no war during Trumps first term and he is trying to end this war. So he must be bad man because the blood thirsty say so.
I think it's time you and musk put the waccy baccy down, it has obviously already affected your ability to see what is right in front of your eyes. Trump couldn't care less about the war, other than his puppet master Putin has told him what to say and do. Putin wants the war over, with the current areas he has invaded declared 'Russian' so he can save face at home for his disastrous invasion of Ukraine. Putin will happily carve up Ukraine with Trump. And both would extract as much as possible from Ukraine.
There was no 'war' during Biden's term either. Yet all them continued to pursue military engagements abroad (it just wasn't declared a 'war'), the increase in conflicts with Iran (in which 100 American soldiers were killed) are directly at the feet of Trump. The disastrous 'deal' with the Taliban that the orange buffoon apparently negotiated and agreed to and the fallout from that, is directly his fault. Biden's hands were tied in many respects because people be stupid, he couldn't counter the deal without dropping massive forces back into a very long engagement in Afghanistan.
Trump is not a savvy businessman, he is just fortunate to have inherited stupid amounts of money from his father. He has declared bankruptcy 6 times already, He is a serial sex offender, a fraudster, a felon, a snake oil salesman grifter, who has realised just how stupid MAGA are and is extracting from them everything he can, along with every other idiot who wants to buy the favour of the Emperor.