Posts by doctariAFC2 57 publicly visible posts • joined 9 Apr 2013
Another more of the same con artist tricks from 1970, I particularly love this one.....
“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years,” he declared. “If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist
science and consensus are conflicting terms, my friend. And I think you had better read the words of the doom and gloomers before proclaiming it was aerosols (which were damaging the ozone layer, nothing to do with global warming/ cooling, rather solar radiation increases, etc) and not nitrogen. For instance, in 1970 these were to beliefs of the day:
“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist
“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist
And your claim about "consensus" not existing? “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
• Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University
and of course, these gems:
“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.”
• Kenneth Watt, ecologist
“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
• George Wald, Harvard Biologist
Same old song and dance..... Just a different point in time.
Just another historical tidbit for you, the last big push on this garbage before the "global warming" drumbeat began again was the impending ice age that was to engulf the planet in the 1980's, these predictions being made in 1970 on the first Earth Day. We were cooling the planet with all our activity, only in 1970 the demon gas was not CO2, rather Nitrogen.
They were wrong then, and they are wrong again, just like they have been since the turn of the 20th Century. Makes some sense though, the pattern of these alarmist claims happening every 20 or 30 years or so, with changes in predictions and such, as that is enough time for the new generations of skulls full of mush to be indoctrinated into the next line of BS, as they weren't around to hear the previous lines of BS that were so utterly wrong each "scientist" should have been laughed right out of their lab coats.
struck a nerve, did I? This has been the same tired nonsense for a long, long time. And every story and every claim has brought with it dire predictions of starvation, seas rising, seas receding, droughts, monsoons, frozen wastelands, barren, scorched deserts....... famine, disease, oh no!
This alternates between the impending inferno and the impending ice-age every 20 or 30 years, or so.
Excuse me? What rot are you trying to peddle here, Nom? Oh, the last Century rot. Let's review this "last century" of charlatains, shall we?
THOSE OLD, FAMILIAR TUNES
GLOBAL COOLING: 1890s-1930s
The Times, February 24, 1895
"Geologists Think the World May Be Frozen Up Again"
Fears of a "second glacial period" brought on by increases in northern glaciers and the severity of Scandinavia's climate.
New York Times, October 7, 1912
"Prof. Schmidt Warns Us of an Encroaching Ice Age"
Los Angeles Times, June 28, 1923
"The possibility of another Ice Age already having started ... is admitted by men of first rank in the scientific world, men specially qualified to speak."
Chicago Tribune, August 9, 1923
"Scientist says Arctic ice will wipe out Canada."
Time Magazine, September 10, 1923
"The discoveries of changes in the sun's heat and the southward advance of glaciers in recent years have given rise to conjectures of the possible advent of a new ice age."
New York Times, September 18, 1924
"MacMillan Reports Signs of New Ice Age"
GLOBAL WARMING: 1930s-1960s
New York Times, March 27, 1933
"America in Longest Warm Spell Since 1776; Temperature Line Records a 25-Year Rise"
Time Magazine, January 2, 1939
"Gaffers who claim that winters were harder when they were boys are quite right.... weather men have no doubt that the world at least for the time being is growing warmer."
Time Magazine, 1951
Noted that permafrost in Russia was receding northward at 100 yards per year.
New York Times, 1952
Reported global warming studies citing the "trump card" as melting glaciers. All the great ice sheets stated to be in retreat.
U.S. News and World Report, January 18, 1954
"[W]inters are getting milder, summers drier. Glaciers are receding, deserts growing."
GLOBAL COOLING: 1970s
Time Magazine, June 24, 1974
"Climatological Cassandras are becoming increasingly apprehensive, for the weather aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age."
Christian Science Monitor, August 27, 1974
"Warning: Earth's Climate is Changing Faster than Even Experts Expect"
Reported that "glaciers have begun to advance"; "growing seasons in England and Scandinavia are getting shorter"; and "the North Atlantic is cooling down about as fast as an ocean can cool".
Science News, March 1, 1975
"The cooling since 1940 has been large enough and consistent enough that it will not soon be reversed, and we are unlikely to quickly regain the 'very extraordinary period of warmth' that preceded it."
Newsweek, April 28, 1975
"The Cooling World"
"There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production – with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now."
International Wildlife, July-August, 1975
"But the sense of the discoveries is that there is no reason why the ice age should not start in earnest in our lifetime."
New York Times, May 21, 1975
"Scientists Ponder Why World's Climate is Changing; A Major Cooling Widely Considered to Be Inevitable"
GLOBAL WARMING: 1990s-?
Earth in the Balance, Al Gore, 1992
"About 10 million residents of Bangladesh will lose their homes and means of sustenance because of the rising sea level due to global warming, in the next few decades."
Time Magazine, April 19, 2001
"[S]cientists no longer doubt that global warming is happening, and almost nobody questions the fact that humans are at least partly responsible."
New York Times, December 27, 2005
"Past Hot Times Hold Few Reasons to Relax About New Warming"
The Daily Telegraph, February 2, 2006
"Billions will die, says Lovelock, who tells us that he is not usually a gloomy type. Human civilization will be reduced to a 'broken rabble ruled by brutal warlords,' and the plague-ridden remainder of the species will flee the cracked and broken earth to the Arctic, the last temperate spot where a few breeding couples will survive."
?????: 2020s?
RIA Novisty(Russian News & Information Agency), February 8, 2007
"Instead of professed global warming, the Earth will be facing a slow decrease in temperatures in 2012-2015. The gradually falling amounts of solar energy, expected to reach their bottom level by 2040, will inevitably lead to a deep freeze around 2055-2060," he said, adding that this period of global freeze will last some 50 years, after which the temperatures will go up again."
Quoting Habibullo Abdusamatov, head of the space research laboratory at the St. Petersburg-based Pulkovo Observatory. Full article at http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070115/59078992.html
Meteorology and Atmospheric Physics 95, 115-121 (2007)
"Multi-scale analysis of global temperature changes and trend of a drop in temperature in the next 20 years"
Lin Zhen-Shan and Sun Xian. The School of Geographic Sciences, Nanjing Normal University, Nanjing, P. R. China
A history scholar, Nom, you are NOT! Unfortunately for you, I am.... This broken record has been playing for a long time, and every time it is played, it is the same scrtached vinyl, the same bogus baloney, by the same crowd of knuckleheads who want nothing other than your loot. Case closed....
Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. Sadly, your mis-informed self is repeating the same nonsense, and falling for the same lies, that have been told with alarmism for well over the last century..... Come back with real info, rather than rubbish talking points.
You're kidding, right Nom? Ice core samples from Antarctic, fossil records of ocean life found in mountains, the list is endless.
Are you paying any kind of attention to the big old world around you, or do you just read and listen to the charlatains you *FEEL* are correct (despite already being outed as complete fraudsters and tricksters - con men of epic proportions?)
This is more typical blather from those suffering from cognitive dissonance in the cliamte change crowd.
Is our climate "changing"? The answer is truly simple - YES IT IS, but no more changeable than it has been for however many billions of years the planet called Earth has held life. I am sure if we suddenly started seeing another bout of continental drift these same alarmists would blame the frackers and oil drillers for the continents drifting, yet not a wit of attention would be paid to the fact that our continental landscape has changed (and continues to change) with or without us.
But many are stupid, and the only way they can deal with anything in life is to *KNOW* it is our (mankind's) fault, and there fore also *KNOW* we can "do something" about it. Trouble is, no one can plausibly tell anyone with half a living brain cell exactly how creating a new tax, and spending money on goofball schemes will "save the planet", because th planet neither cares one wit about money, or our schemes. Indeed, the planet has been the planet, doing what a planet does, in a solar system with its own dynamics impacting said planet, out of our control since the rock in the sky began spinning.
But the stupid wil lap it up, and point to anything they *FEEL* is right because it agrees with their off the wall "beliefs", and since it isn't *THEIR* fault, but someone else's that has to be punished with taxes and such, not knowing or ignoring that taxes will be paid even by the "blameless", and not a single thing to alter the planetary dynamics shall come to pass.
But it sure feels good, despite being nothing but pure rubbish.
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