@ac @Marc
"Accept that MS has issues, it clearly does, Vista is late with half its functionality descoped, and they cant count, surely (ignoring the consumer side (3, 3fwg, 95, 98 and ME)) Vista is windows 7.....(NT3, NT4, Win2K[5], XP[6], Vista[7].....). Unless of course Vista is just a face lift to XP or was XP just a face lift to Win2K"
Gaah, MS might not be able to count, but you can't read. Two or three posts in this thread have already explained that, so I'll do it again.
NT4
Win2000 = NT5.0
XP = NT 5.1
Vista = NT6
Windows 7 = NT7
*bangs head against wall*
Also, just for snarks:
"OK you could get Ubuntu for a reasonable price, but in teh long run you will end up with a product having a larger cost. Not in hard cash, maybe, but certainly in time and effort. Me, I want a PC I can switch on, use, plug any shit I buy into and just be done with it."
A: Ubuntu is free
B: The support isn't that pricey, if you decide that forums and copying and pasting solutions is too hard. I can't recall exactly what it is, something like £30 a month. If you are having a specific problem/s then get a months support and get them all sorted. Quite sure you can do that, but I'm happy to be corrected [it's too late at night to be googling that shit for me]. Once *nix systems are up, they tend to stay up, certainly more than any Win32 system I have used. Haven't had to wipe this lappy once, even over three OS upgrades. just tell it to update to the latest release, leave it for an hour and it's done. Lovely. And no £180 price tag with it, ta.
C: I changed to Ubuntu so I *could* just turn my PC on and have it just work. I use this lappy for wanking/banking and for that it does a wonderful job. I have an XP machine for if I need to do something Windows Hardware Compatability List specific, like flipping the bird at mates over 't webcam. Although I now look for hardware that is Linux/Ubunto known good, to work around that. The same way that you would look for a Vista Compatible sticker on any hardware you buy to make sure it's certified to work on Vista.
I'll admit with most hardware, it just works with Windows [and the drivers, natch] but there's a good reason for that - it's called Windows having 90%+ of the market, which is a pretty fucking big incentive for hardware vendors making their stuff work on the 32bit NT5/6 code base. However, if you are selective about your hardware, Linux will 'just work' to a frankly gobsmacking degree.
I'm a hardware/desktop support/network tech - it's in my interest to know this sort of shite inside out, and I'm quite happy to admit that there are people out there like yourselves who simply aren't as IT savvy as some of us and don't get the concept of, say, educating yourself before making a purchase. And that's fine. Stick with your Windows, BSODs and systems that slowly start grinding to a halt and DRM - they keep me in pocket money, that's for sure.
No comment on Mac OS - too knackered.
I'll get my coat - it's the dressing gown with the frayed sleeves.
Steven "Insomnia sucks and makes me ratty" Raith.