@ Tom 13 - Re: TOO MANY ******* PEOPLE
Wrote :- "greenie who admits his real prejudices: he hates human beings and wants to kill off "
Bit of crossed wires there. The greenies sensibly started some years ago with population reduction on the agenda, but have long since dropped it " in case it was interpreted the wrong way". That was when they came out as just another left-wing group - they don't really give a toss about nature and just want to take shots at industry.
It is time politicians and others dropped the medieval lord-of-the-manor's notion that people are an asset, like land and minerals. That was only true when peasants produced more than they consumed (and the lord-of-the-manor got the rest) and could be conscripted into a private army against the neighbouring lord. In the modern world, once economies of scale are achieved (a point that has long been passed in most nations) further numbers are a liability.
Forget about trading our "services" such as insurance and "management consultancy" for food and minerals - when the latter run short their price will be unreachable, and those who have them will harbour and stockpile it. I can see, within the next generation of two, nations even desperately pushing some of their people at gunpoint across borders into neighbouring countries to offload the burden.
Nowadays, people consume more than they produce, so the Earth's reserves are rapidly depleting, but even if they were not, an increasing population stretches them further. Fuel, copper and decent timber are the first that have become really noticable.
We are talking about birth control, not gas chambers.