* Posts by ARGO

182 posts • joined 23 Apr 2012


HPE opens 5G kit-testing lab where vendors can play with the toys, see what works best

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Indian conglomerate Reliance Industries says it's built its own 5G kit and hopes to sell to all comers



Jio use Samsung for 4G. So a bolt on to that for non stand alone, or something completely new in stand alone?

The latter is easier, but rather less useful at present.

Anyone taking bets on when this is branded a security risk?

UK smacks Huawei with banhammer: Buying firm's 5G gear illegal from year's end, mobile networks ordered to rip out all next-gen kit by 2027


She's probably the closest to it, but has experience in fixed broadband not mobile. And her pronouncements suggests she knows nothing about 5G security mechanisms or network architecture.


Yeah, it's amazing how many politicians are suddenly experts on network design. And yet in 20 years in the industry I've never run across any of them.



So Huawei are (eventually) banned from providing 5G base stations - where all the traffic is strongly encrypted - but not from the 2G & 3G networks where the encryption is rather more ropey.

And this is about security you say?

GSMA suggests mobile carriers bake contact-tracing into their own apps – if governments ask for it


Re: Don't let the phone operators have a go (somebody think of the children).

Can't see the operators being keen to be honest. This would mean they own all the privacy / GDPR stuff. I think they would much rather leave that with government.

Not going Huawei just yet: UK ministers reportedly rethinking pledge to kick Chinese firm out of telco networks by 2023


Re: Scepticism...

And if Huawei's only providing the radio nodes and antennas, what exactly would a backdoor achieve?

All 5G traffic is encrypted through to core. Nobody can (yet) crack 5G encryption, let alone do it live.

So that just leaves potential for disrupting the infrastructure. If that's the concern, perhaps look at how much UK infrastructure is directly owned by Chinese companies rather than just using equipment provided by one?

BoJo buckles: UK govt to cut Huawei 5G kit use 'to zero by 2023' after pressure from Tory MPs, Uncle Sam


Re: Is it wrong to be in favour of this?

Indeed. I'll accept the proposed ban isn't political when one of the objecting backbenchers demonstrates how to break 5G encryption at the mast.

O2 be a fly on the wall during BT and Vodafone's video calls: Telefónica's UK biz, Virgin Media officially merge


Re: Logical Next Move in the "comms+pay tv" "market"

Or Three and Sky.

Three are on record as being against quad play. But then so were O2.

And Three have just had a change of management.

One thing for sure - Sky will be looking closely at their MVNO contract with O2!

Comms giant Telefonica confirms O2 in talks to merge with Virgin Media


Re: Let's see what OFCOM says

Nope I did mean MVNOs. O2 is both MNO and MVNO, Virgin is just MVNO

The largest MVNO is Tesco - 50% owned by O2.

The 2nd largest is Virgin, 100% owned by Virgin Media.

Giffgaff is 100% owned by O2, but I believe they are outside the top 5 these days.


Let's see what OFCOM says

One of the grounds for stopping the O2-Three deal was the effect it would have on the MVNO market.

I'm looking forward to hearing them explain how this deal - bringing together the first and second largest MVNOs - will have no effect.

Square peg of modem won't fit into round hole of PC? I saw to it, bloke tells horrified mate


Isn't that normal for PB?

Packard Bell cases were notorious for having unusual shapes, presumably to make you buy all the internals from them.

I also used a hacksaw to make things fit - but on the case metalwork rather than the bits I was trying to stuff inside it.

On the plus side PB cases were remarkably solid, so could stand to lose a bit of metal here and there.

Apple: We respect your privacy so much we've revealed a little about what we can track when you use Maps


If this worries you...

...I suggest you don't look into how Google Traffic gets its data!

Could WFH web traffic topple a Brit telco? Pfff, scoff operators. This has nothing on Liverpool v Everton streaming


Re: Congestion

From some of the reviews, that's a common issue for folk buying 5G cellular kit: "My router has a 1Gbps cellular link, but when I connect to it over WiFi I only get 50Mbps" Turns out that even though the router has both bands, most connected devices default to 2.4GHz and you have to wade through menus to change it.

Not exactly the kind of housekeeping you want when it means the hotel's server uptime is scrubbed clean


Re: Lockable outlet?

They make these for dementia sufferers: https://www.livingmadeeasy.org.uk/kitchen%20and%20household/power-points,-sockets-and-accessories-p/lockable-plug-cover-for-double-sockets-0111084-2383-information.htm

MWC now stands for Mighty Wallet Crusher? Smaller firms counting the cost after mobile industry event scrapped


I certainly have doubts that MWC exhibitors will instead opt to go to the computex event in Taiwan this year. That's only about 3 months away.

The virus curing the mobile industry's chronic addiction... and sparking an impressive algorithmic price experiment



"100,000 aircraft seats are suddenly empty. 100,000 hotel beds slumber undisturbed."

They might go unused, but typical terms for that week are "no refunds", so it's the overbooking algorithm that will be getting a workout.

Amid coronavirus epidemic, LG, ZTE hang up on Mobile World Congress, organizers call for 'no-handshake' policy


No handshaking?

At a comms event?

That's going to be a problem for the live demos!

EU outlines 5G rules: You don't have to keep 'risky' vendors completely Huawei


4 companies?

"So far, the four companies offering 5G infrastructure are Huawei, Nokia, Ericsson, and Samsung."

ZTE might want to have a word with you about that.... as might all of the open RAN vendors

The time that Sales braved the white hot heat of the data centre to save the day


Re: Had this in reverse...

It's possible, but us serfs didn't directly get told about goings-on at that level. Though we may have inferred things from the company never making enough money to trigger the profit share clause in our contracts.


Had this in reverse...

I used to work in an office on the top floor of a converted country house.

Every summer the office temp was over 30C, but manglement denied all requests for aircon.

One year we got new servers.

First day of summer they all overheated and shut down.

Second day of summer we had aircon.

Poor, poor mobile networks. UK's comms watchdog plans to stop 'em selling locked-down handsets


Nearly there already.

A couple of the UK networks have been selling unlocked phones for years. And most virtual operators do too. Its not something that's widely publicised though, so nice of ofcom to raise the profile and I suspect the "1 year needed to implement" by the other operators may come down somewhat as a result.

Mobile operators say they'll go halfsies with UK.gov on £1bn network to bring 4G to rural folk


Re: 4G Old Hat

They've tried that before. The reduction in license fees for the auction lot with a coverage obligation was way more than £500m, so this looks a bit of a bargain. (I'm waiting to see the small print though)


Re: 700Mhz

>I think 3G will be switched off before 2G.

If you need to keep an old technology for legacy devices, 2G covers more customers than 3G and can be interleaved with LTE signals (which 3G cannot).

Three UK goes TITSUP*: Down and out for 10 hours and counting


Re: Three Networks

Twin cores might also explain why some people have service and others in the same area don't - only one of them has fallen over?

The immovable object versus the unstoppable force: How the tech boys club remains exclusive


There used to be one, but ironically the equal opportunities laws made its recruitment policies illegal: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xansa

Networking giant in hot water for selling US govt buggy spy kit? Huawei again? No, it's Cisco


Re: Weasel

I read that as "we know our security is crap and we expect our customers to fix it themselves"

Ofcom head Sharon White pocketed nearly £500k last year


Where do I apply?

Presumably there's an advert out to be her successor?

BOFH: On a sunny day like this one, the concrete dries so much more quickly


Re: Informal poll on whether you've ever had to do something like this

Not quite in the resurrecting the dead category, but more talking to a zombie: I once had a job getting data out of a 30 year old CDC Cyber that was *still running as a live system*.

The chosen route was to connect something as a peripheral. As the peripheral port comprised 20 subminiature coax transmission lines, that involved a lot of reverse engineering and paying a fortune to have the required hardware built. The result was possibly the world's most expensive ISA card.

We also found that the entire system depended on those coax lines being exactly 100ns in length. Finding a company that could even make the things was a mission.

Radio-controlled racing car smears some rubber over Goodwood track


That 5G mobile is a little bulky

I'm gonna need a bigger test lab

Bonkers British MPs rant: 5G signals cause cancer


Re: Idiots

They'd have to turn off the sun too. Oh wait, it's Wales...

Twist my Arm why don't you: Brit CPU behemoth latest biz to cease work with Huawei – report


Patents are exempt - apparently?

Interdigital plan to carry on licensing as their agreements only cover patents. Those are matters of public record, so the agreement is "we won't sue you" rather than actually sharing any technology - the sharing already happened when the patent was published. I wonder if this route might allow use of ARM's US originated IPR?


Pushed around and kicked around, always a lonely boy: Run Huawei, Google Play, turns away, from Huawei... turns away


Suggest you take a look at Huawei's "App Gallery". It's installed alongside Play Store on their most recent devices and has almost all of the most popular apps.

Wine? No, posh noshery in high spirits despite giving away £4,500 bottle of Bordeaux


Re: Wine is wine

Most sommeliers would have trouble at that level. Baseline qualification for them is WSET advanced, and the wines used for that don't venture much beyond £100.

(BTW, I can thoroughly recommend WSET evening classes - always good to have a fallback career!)

C'mon, UK networks! Poor sods have 'paid' for their contract phones a few times over... Tell 'em about good deals


Re: Just be grateful you aren't in Germany

I've been with all the UK mobile network operators except TMo/EE, and all moved me to a rolling monthly contract after the fixed term.

If there's 5G connectivity but no 5G devices on it, does it make a sound? Wait, no, that's not right


Re: Somebody needs to tell the marketing department

EE already did one of those, but it was a bit more on topic - they connected all the outside broadcast cameras back to HQ using 5G rather than by cables to a control truck. Still not "industrial", but getting there.


Somebody needs to tell the marketing department

"5G is all about the industrial uses of wireless networking and delivery of high-bandwidth internet,"

So obviously you promote it using 4G handsets in a large railway station :-/

O2 brings forth a Friday fail for some unlucky UK customers


Re: Do dual-SIM (ie dual network) mobile phones still exist in the UK?

Three sell a range of dual sim phones, including the honor mentioned above.

Overhyped 5G is being 'rushed', Britain's top comms boffin reckons


Re: Experts?

It seems we already have 6G in the north:



Unlikely to be a backhaul issue

Backhaul isn't usually a problem - a single fibre has way more capacity than any UK network has in air interface. Poor throughput is usually down to too many users sharing the capacity on a single cell (which is why 3G is often faster than 4G these days), and the logistical difficulties of adding extra cells to relieve that load.

Hold horror stories: Chief, we've got a f*cking idiot on line 1. Oh, you heard all that


Re: I live in fear of the day…

(insert facetime joke here)

Trolling in the Reg's forums... we mean, er, 'working' on the train still rubbish thanks to patchy data coverage


Best connectiviity routing?

There was somebody punting that at Mobile World Congress a couple of years back. Never heard of it since....

Upcoming report from UK's Huawei handler will blast firm for unresolved security issues


Er, have you read the Reuters link?

"The GSMA mobile operators' trade association refused to comment on a Reuters report that later this month it will propose an emergency meeting to impose a de facto ban on the use of Huawei equipment by its members."

Perhaps because that's not what the Reuters report says? GSMA doesn't have the authority to ban anything. The report was suggesting they might discuss a response to government bans.

(Given that the big three Chinese operators are all GSMA members, it would be interesting to see what response they come up with!)

If I could turn back time, I'd tell you to keep that old Radarange at home


Re: Pesky microwaves

Leaf growth is a common problem for mobile network coverage. We can detect the start of spring from our coverage measurements!

You were told to clean up our systems, not delete 8,000 crucial files


Re: xfer

I once worked in a lab where we were testing a laser. So obviously all the data files were called "Latest" :-/

If most punters are unlikely to pay more for 5G, why all the rush?


Re: 5G: it will be a genuine game-changer?

As someone who was involved in designing the physical layer of the first 3G products, I can say for sure that Doppler correction was present at that point.

LG's beer-making bot singlehandedly sucks all fun, boffinry from home brewing


Beer in the Sodastream?

Well at least you didn't try to make a milkshake in it, like one of my university housemates did. That took much more than a day to sort out.

Expired cert... Really? #O2down meltdown shows we should fear bungles and bugs more than hackers


Re: Not-so-hidden subsidies

Cables and holes aren't generally the mobile company's job - the backhaul is usually provided by Openreach, Virgin, or one of the dedicated business network companies. Of course the cost of that would increase if the overheads did, but it would increase for everyone, not just mobile co's

Planning permission for towers is abbreviated only in certain cases. A remarkable percentage have to go to appeal to get built. (and the same folk who object sometimes complain about lack of a decent mobile signal!)


Re: When did UK mobile networks get a taxpayer subsidy?

Pre nationalisation? They didn't do mobile then.



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