Re: I love the way developers...
"No, the entire point is what is intended by..."
In all that follows the ... you did not make single point that countered my statement that software allows you to use your computer. I don't care what kind of program you are righting or which OS you are running it on. Software makes programmable hardware usable. Otherwise all computers would be limited to the instructions that could fit on the chips. It doesn't matter a user with ever directly access the system or not.
Now you are right to say that the Debian devs are not forcing me to use their software. In fact I would go so far so argue that their degree Zealotry is forcing a lot of Infidels like my self away from Debian because we, in our Unholy Filth, wish to actually use our hardware in ways close to the manner intended by the hardware manufacturers.
As unnatural as it may seem to you, not everyone in the world wants to boot to a command line after a fresh install. Nor do most user wish to have a computer that doesn't connect to the internet.
I am not trying to say that Debian doesn't have a place in the Linux ecosystem. I am just saying that every year that place is going to get smaller and smaller until things change because if you have to be a developer to use it then only developers will use it. That makes a good distro to base your distro on, but a lousy distro to use, even as a server. That will not last though because Debian isn't the only distro
with good devs.
OpenSuse, Fedora, Void, Funtoo, and even Gentoo make usability a higher priority than Debian does. And all them typically have much newer packages in their repositories. Think about that for a while and ask yourself where Debian will be 10 or twenty years from now.