The secretly funded Global Warmers' Propaganda Fund?
I see your Dyson and raise you a Hawking on climate change.
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The earth is losing a trillion tons of ice per year:
- 159 Gt Antarctic land ice, McMillan el al, GRL (2014)
+ 26 Gt Antarctic sea ice, Holland et al, J Climate (2014)
- 261 Gt Arctic sea ice, PIOMAS
- 378 Gt Greenland, Enderlin et al, GRL (2014)
- 259 Gt other land based glaciers, Gardner et al. Science (2013)
- 1,031 Gt, total
Deniers can find the 2% growth and miss the 98% shrinkage.
Chaotic systems are determinstic and are modeled all the time. Chaos is not a synonym for randomness. The basic population growth equation is chaotic: trivial to program and tracks well to many populations. Newton's law of gravitation is chaotic; it can't be solved for the general N-body problem, but it can and is modeled all the time. Here's yet another case of a model yielding useful results. Time to accept the evidence of the problem and start creating solutions - high time.
There are stronger greenhouse gases: methane and water vapour to name but too. The one that is increasing is CO2. It will lead to the other two increasing. Methane will increase as the permfrost melts. Water vapour will increase due to a warming atmosphere. Positive feedback is not a positive development.
As for consensus, you don know that AGW wasn't accepted 30 years ago. Revell's 1955 paper was about the first to join up the greenhouse effect of CO" with calculating the order of magnitude change. So, when the consensus is even deeper in ten years, will you still be the contrarian, raling against your nurse, banging your stick on the floor and telling us how the horseless carriage is still a mistake despite its popularity?
Ah, the greenhouse effect is basic physics, known for over a hundred years. AGW's been known for over 50. Mythbusters have a good video on CO2 causing warming; any secondary school can show it. The penny dropping moment was from the 1950s - scientists had long known CO2's effects - it was the magnitude that shocked them. See http://aip.org/history/climate/Revelle.htm.
As for his most recent lecture, he may have been a bit confused, http://www.skepticalscience.com/lindzens-junk-science.html. If his science is that good he really should try publishing. Peer review weans out such poor analysis before he embarasses himself (and his fervent followers).
The Global Warming Protection Fund is Lord Lawson's secretive denier front. Any foreword that contains the conspiracy theory phrasing of "the facts have been hidden from the consumer who will have to pay the bill for this folly" deserves very careful scrutiny. Who knows, Gordon Hughes may yet be proven correct. But it needs to shake off the heavy history of GWPF's failure first.