Re: Not at the moment
@that one in the corner
"and was EXECUTED within seconds. FTFY."
If thats the word you want to use sure. The US does execute violent criminals even at the time of violent confrontations.
"You never seem to be able to provide anything to indicate that that was a lawful killing and not an execution."
You dont provide anything to indicate it wasnt. I am also willing to wait for the legal outcome of this but the video shows the criminal hit the officer with her car and the officer shoots her. The build up being her refusal to comply with a lawful order, reversing the car (putting the officer in front of the car) and driving forward hitting him. Also in one of the videos you can hear the wife telling her to drive just before she drives at the officer.
"You just go back to repeating the same points, starting with she "disobeyed a lawful order" - so was she executed for doing that?"
And now you are clearly lying. She was shot for driving her car at the federal officer and hitting him with her vehicle. The buildup showing motivation for her criminal act. And I do repeat what happened in the video because your comments seem very different than the actual evidence from multiple angles. I also repeat to go watch the video because that clarifies your confusions.
"Which leaves us with - well, that you assert she was lawfully executed for making a violent confrontation AFTER that confrontation had ended WITHOUT fatal injury to anyone."
You say ended but how? If she had a gun and fired at the officer but missed the first shot missed but the confrontation did not end and I note you need to add the word 'fatal' to no injury. He hit the officer with a deadly weapon, do you somehow try to dispute that? Within seconds she was shot, she still had possession of the deadly weapon and the weapon was clearly not disabled and so she was still armed and dangerous (as proven by hitting someone with her car). You cant avoid that.
"The most intriguing part of this is - where are you drawing the line? At what point is an ICE officer allowed to execute somebody?"
Forget ICE for a moment. At what point is it a law enforcers duty to protect the people, which includes themselves, from violence. When a deadly weapon is in use against people, including the officer, is it appropriate for an officer to remove that threat even by lethal means?
"You keep saying that, but you are always very, very careful not to provide a reference to precisely *which* video you want us to watch. It clearly can not be any of the ones that Legal Eagle includes in his analysis"
Sorry for any confusion you might have, when I say watch the videos of the event I mean the actual freaking videos of the event. The multiple angles of the actual event. Not from any biased sources, no left right media or blogger biases etc, the actual event itself. From different angles. The key problem seems to be people telling you what to think. As I pointed out to you about your legal eagle video, he is contradicted by the video clip he plays at minute 5:28. The guy telling you what to think is contradicted by the evidence he puts on screen and he only made it to about 5 mins.
There are many interpretations and biases expressed about this event, I am just asking you to look at the actual footage, not someones dodgy opinion.