* Posts by Boothy

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Windows 11 tries to escape Windows 10's shadow with AI muscle

Boothy

Re: If they weren't removing the choice no one would bother changing

Also just to mention, setting up the same printer in Windows was a pain.

Windows would not recognise the printer at all without downloading drivers (something not needed in Mint).

The drivers for my Samsung are now on the HP site, they have multiple drivers and software packages, with no clear instructions as to which ones you actually need. I recall having to plug it in via USB to get Windows to see it, set it up initially, then switch to WiFi afterwards!

Boothy

Re: If they weren't removing the choice no one would bother changing

Granted this is just my experience, and just one printer, but for what it's worth...

I've got one of those all-in-ones, a Samsung laser with scanner etc (M2070 to be specific), which I've had a while. (I think HP bought out their printing business years ago now).

It connects via Wi-Fi. When I ran Mint up while building the system, I turned the printer on, just went to the built in 'Admin>Printers', clicked 'Add' and followed the instructions. Job done. It prints from everything so far, and the built in scan software picks it up as well (although it takes a few seconds before the device shows in the device list).

I'd suggest a live CD, or a install into a VM, then see if it works (Linux Mint in my case).

For gaming,....

Yes Steam is amazing. It was pretty good 18 months back, and has just gotten better since then. So many games are Steam Deck verified now, which means it'll be fine on desktop Linux as well, and even if it's not deck verified, I haven't found any recent games on Steam that didn't just work.

Of course a huge part of this is Proton, Valves tweaked version of Wine and used on their Steam Deck, and is built into the Linux version of desktop Steam. Valve are fairly fast at updating and bug fixes, but if it's a brand new game release, it can sometimes have issues (basically the same as needing a day-one Windows driver updates for a specific game). GE Proton is usually a little ahead of Steams Proton, a bit more cutting edge, but you can have both installed at the same time, and multiple versions of each at the same time. (Steam has a global Proton option, but can also be set to a specific version per game if needed).

The only other issue I had for gaming was the MESA (GFX driver), I use Mint, which goes for stability rather than cutting edge, so MESA was always a bit behind. This was fine for like 95%+ of games, but sometimes a new release would crash, hang, or just exit. Switching to a different MESA build (in my case kisak-mesa), resolved these issues.

One thing I have heard, is that AMD GFX has less issues than nVidia. AMD also seem to be a bit friendlier towards open source, Linux etc.

Good luck if you decide to jump!

Boothy

Re: Meanwhile ...

Another Mint user, 18 months and counting, no regrets.

Boothy
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Re: If they weren't removing the choice no one would bother changing

Apologies for the rant!

I jumped to Linux about 18 months ago now on my main driver at home (still stuck with Windows for work, but they provide that gear, so meh).

All my docs and media are on a NAS (with separate backup and cloud sync), so very little local that needed to be moved, so that made switching easier, for me anyway.

I didn't quite fully commit, as I set up a dual boot, with my existing Win 10 install on one drive, unchanged other than doing a clean up (uninstalling/moving stuff around to fee up other drives etc). Then a separate drive with Mint (as I was already familiar with Mint, other flavours exist). I set up Mint as the primary drive, with Windows as an option via GRUB. But I found, other than booting into Windows to grab some settings or something like that on the odd occasion, that I quickly just stopped using Windows. (Also helps that you can mount NTFS drives as read/write with a single click in Mint (and I assume other flavours), so if all I needed was to grab a file, I can do that from within Linux anyway).

I've been using Mint now for ~18 months, I really can't imagine ever going back to Windows on any personal machine. I don't miss it at all.

A few things I don't miss :

Random slow boot times.

So called background updates or tasks that hog your system for a while (I kept a reasonably clean system).

System updates that seem to take forever even though it's a quick system [*]

Reboots required after even small updates.

The 'update and shutdown/restart' thing, that even when told to update and shutdown, still carries on patching at the next boot up! Time to go get a coffee I guess.

Ads in the Start menu.

Really bad Start menu search system, that keeps pushing Internet results and ads on me (again!). (I turn it off, it then comes back after an update!).

Suggestions, of any sort (it's like Clippy all over again!)

Applications/programs having to be manually updated (I love having a common Software manager and update system now!).

I could go on!

I hadn't realised until I switched, just how many things that are just a normal part of using Windows, are just not a thing, or are less of a hassle, under Linux. To some extent, I hadn't realise just how bad Windows had gotten, until I took that leap, and looked at it from the outside!

Obviously different people will have different use cases, different software needs etc. So millage may vary!

The point is, for me anyway, I have no regrets in jumping to Linux.

And just to be clear, Linux isn't perfect. For example I switched to a different Mesa (GFX driver) as the version in the Mint repo is a bit behind (they go for stability, not cutting edge), and so some newly released games just crashed on start, and this took a bit of digging, and a couple of attempts to get working!

Oh, and I'm also a PC gamer, playing a mix of legacy (C&C, Sword of the Stars, KotoR etc), and newer titles (Horizon Forbidden West, Fallout 4, Starfield, Cyberpunk 2077 etc). All work fine on Linux (sometimes better, especially for older titles such as those written for Win 7 etc).

For ref:

* System: Ryzen 5800X3D, 6900XT, 32GiB RAM, 3 x NVME M.2 drives, one for Windows, one for Mint, and one for my Steam Library :-)

Want to keep Windows 10 secure? This is how much Microsoft will charge you

Boothy

Re: gog/linux

Have a look at Lutris (grab from your distros software manager, personally I'd avoid the snap/flathub versions).

It has built in GOG support (as well as Humble, Epic, EA etc). On launch, hit the little 'person' (account) icon next to GOG on the left, and log in with your GOG account. Any games you have in GOG should show up, and can be installed by just clicking the Install button at the bottom after selecting a game.

Lutris uses what it calls 'Runners' to launch the games in, so for example Wine for Windows games, DOSBox for older DOS games etc. These are selected automatically based on the game. If a runner is needed for a game, but not installed yet, Lutris will just prompt you the first time you launch a game that needs it, and you just hit Yes and Lutris does the rest. After that you can just launch the game as is.

I can't really comment on compatibility etc, as I almost always use Steam on Linux, and only have a few titles in GOG. (Such as the old Populous 1 & 2 games).

Also note: The Wine runner in Lutris can also be configured to use Steams Proton (their tweaked version of Wine), instead of regular Wine (Preferences > Runners > Wine > Gear icon, then change 'Wine version' ). So if regular Wine doesn't work, try Proton instead.

This also means the protondb.com site (as mentioned by another poster above) is also somewhat valid assuming specific GOG games are also available on Steam of course. i.e. If it's a decent rating for the Steam version of a game on Protondb, then there is a good chance the GOG version will also work fine under Lutris.

Happy 20th birthday Gmail, you're mostly grown up – now fix the spam

Boothy

Re: Mark of the unprofessional

I do the same, plus add businesses that use a antisocial media address as their primary web site.

I don't mind this 'too' much if it's just someone doing a bit of a hobby type business on the side, nor do I mind if this is a secondary location to push the business to those platform users, but if you're a proper business driving around in a van with a company name and logo splashed all over it, please use a real domain (and the same one) for both the web page and email!

Tesla power steering probe upgraded after thousands more incidents reported

Boothy

"Not only frequent..." Citation needed.

Studies (the Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency and Australia’s Department of Defence (EV FireSafe) for example), both show EV fires are far less likely than fires in petrol or diesel cars.

Quote: "....3.8 fires per 100,000 electric or hybrid cars in 2022, compared with 68 fires per 100,000 cars when taking all fuel types into account."

Quote: "...found there was a 0.0012% chance of a passenger electric vehicle battery catching fire, compared with a 0.1% chance for internal combustion engine cars."

The only reason EV fires appear to be common, is they end up as a headline story, whereas petrol or diesel car fires are so common, they are not news worthy unless the fire takes out a whole building, or a ship. There is also a lot of misinformation, where fires have been attributed to EVs, but then found out it was not the case.

Resent examples being the Luton airport multistory car park that turned out to be a diesel, and the Fremantle Highway car transporter ship, where all 498 EVs that were on board were driven off with only minor damage.

"...extremely difficult to put out."

This I'll agree with, but only when it's thermal runaway of the battery pack.

Windows 11 24H2 is coming so we can all shut up about Windows 12 for another year

Boothy

I went dual boot over a year ago now, Win 10 + Mint, with GRUB set to load Mint by default.

A good chunk of what I do on this machine is gaming, almost all my games are via Steam, and use of Proton is basically transparent to the end user (unless you want to tweak).

Steam on Linux has been native for many years of course (2012), but the last two years has seen big leaps in Steam game compatibility thanks to the Steam Deck being launched (Feb 2022), with its OS being based on Arch Linux, and also uses Proton. This has meant many developers and publishers pushing to get Steam Deck compatibility for their titles, which basically means Linux compatibility.

I've also noticed some old Windows titles, such as those written for Win 7 and then never updated for newer Windows, seem to work better under Proton, than they do under Windows 10, even in compatibility mode. (KotoR II being one example, which just crashes on me after a few mins on Win 10, but is rock solid for me on Linux!).

Virgin Media comes top of the flops for customer complaints

Boothy

Ah VM broadband. I'm with them, have been for maybe 10 months, as it was the only option in my area that enabled over 80Mpbs, all other options being vDSL based.

A couple of weeks ago, Monday, my broadband went down (and TV of course). Visits by different 'engineers' every day afterwards, and it took till Friday to fix!

Turned out some contractors pulling cables in for a neighbour on Monday, managed to break the main fibre feed!

Of course no prizes for guessing who the contractors worked for, VM of course, they were fitting the outside fibre cable for a new sign up a couple of doors down from myself, and managed to take out everyone on VM at my end of the street at the same time!

Note: Here all the telco/broadband/fibre cables are in a shared duct under the pavement. So you get VM, Openreach, sub contractors etc, all working in the same ducts.

White goods giant fires legal threats to unplug open source plugin

Boothy

Interesting replies. My old machine (the one with the stupid hidden warning lights!) came with the house (the house was new). So I just figured I'd leave it till it broke.

It was an Electrolux (shudder), so colour me surprised when it managed to not only live past normal warranty, and the 'free' extended warranty, but managed over 10 years! (I was really surprised!!).

But, it was an Electrolux, so all hail the new Bosch :-) (lets see if this one last 10+ years!).

I got the new Bosch about 2 months ago. Same space, same hidden controls behind the matching door front. (Fitted it myself, so what could possible go wrong!).

But I now get a little projection on the floor, showing a remaining count-down time, hh:mm, plus it flips to an icon every few seconds showing the stage, Wash, rinse etc,

All rather cool, but I realised, unless you're desperate for something inside the machine while it's running, it's all rather redundant! Either plan the wash better, or buy a 2nd of whatever it was you needed :-)

Boothy

My old dishwasher was was one of those built in units, so all the buttons and lights on the inside of the door, only visible when opened.

One of those lights was a door open warning light!

X looks back at year of so-called 'engineering excellence' under Musk

Boothy

Re: Going the way of Dodo bird

Or AltaVista

Take Windows 11... please. Leaks confirm low numbers for Microsoft's latest OS

Boothy

Re: Hoping to get rid of Win 10 soon

Worth having a look on Proton DB if you are switching to Linux for gaming. Basically Steams game compatibility with Steam Deck and Desktop Linux. With tips from users to get things working.

Steam Deck is based on Arch Linux, so if it works on the Deck, it works on Linux.

Also, whilst you can use nvidia gfx, AMD gfx is generally easier under Linux.

I switched back around Jan this year. I dual boot with Win 10, but perhaps use Windows around 5% of the time now.

Good luck and have fun.

NASA wants to believe ... that you can help it crack UFO mysteries

Boothy

Re: Cunning Plan

Tin foil?

Scientists trace tiny moonquakes to Apollo 17 lander – left over from 1972

Boothy
WTF?

A furlong is 201.168 metres long, so your comment doesn't even make sense!

Soon the most popular 'real' desktop will be the Linux desktop

Boothy

Re: Wunnerful was never the point

Just on the gaming side, and granted this is a sample size of one, i.e. me.

But I recently decided to give Linux a go as a gaming system (around January), but wanted to be able to fall back to Windows if needed, so I went dual boot. So an existing Win 10 install (aka my main Gaming Rig OS), I then added Linux Mint, installed to a separate SSD (no real reason for Mint other than I was already familiar with it in various VMs).

The install went well, Mint recognised all hardware out of the box (Ryzen 5800X3D + AMD 6900XT). Including gaming specific keyboard and mouse. The only extra bit of software I needed to install was 'ckb-next', to get the back-light of my Corsair keyboard to come on (aka RGB).

Steam (which is where the majority of my games library is) has had a Linux native client for many years, and with the advent of the Steam Deck and Proton [1] (which is what prompted me to give this a go), this now makes installing Windows only titles a breeze on Linux.

A few games still work better under Windows, (MS Flight Sim for one, some of the Total war games), but most other games work just as well on Linux as they do under Windows, some actually performing better on Linux! For example some legacy games I've tried, that were written for Windows 7 or earlier, can be difficult to get running on Windows 10 (crashing etc), but work fine on Linux via Proton. Others that I had issues running under Windows 10, such as Knights of the Old Republic II (crashes regularly for me, tried all sorts), turned out to have a native Linux version, which works better (for me anyway) than the Windows version did!

Overall, I now spend probably 95%+ gaming on Linux, and if any new purchased don't work under Linux, they get refunded, or at least that's the plan, I haven't actually had one yet that failed to work! Can't see me ever going back to Windows now for gaming, at least not on any sort of regular basis.

If you want to see the state of Linux gaming, for Steam anyway, check out https://www.protondb.com/ as they list all the games in Steam and how well they work in both the Steam Deck, and in standard Linux.

Plus it's worth noting, often Steam Deck compatibility is rated poor for some games due to the controls, as the Steam Deck uses console like controls and a touch pad, rather than it being performance issues, this is a non issue for regular Linux, as you'll almost certainly have a keyboard and mouse, which is what most PC games expect to see of course.

1: For background, Gabe Newell (aka Mr Valve/Steam) is well known to really hate MS and Windows in general, and apparently really dislikes the direction MS is taking Windows in, and Steams currently reliance on that platform. As such Valve have been trying to move away from Windows for years. They released a Linux native Steam client many years ago now, and also worked on Steam OS based on Arch Linux (they were aiming at basically building a Steam based console, produced by other companies, but it didn't really pan out).

Work continued on Steam OS anyway, with Steam OS 3.0 being released last year to run on the then new Steam Deck, this is basically a portable PC running a tweaked Arch Linux, and includes Proton, a customised version of Wine, the Windows compatibility layer, but focusing on gaming. (There are also people working on a non Steam Deck version of Steam OS 3.0, for regular hardware).

The Steam Deck has been quite popular, and has pushed many developers and publishers in the last 18 months or so, to get their games Steam Deck compatible verified. This compatibility is shown on the games store page in Steam, so lots of effort gong on to get their games listed as Verified and with a big green tick. If the game works on the Steam Deck, then it's almost certainly going to run on a regular Linux install, as long as the hardware is up to the job of course.

Lamborghini's last remaining pure gas guzzlers are all spoken for

Boothy

Re: Hypocrites

Quote: "but everything else about them is about as eco-unfriendly as you can get."

Such as?

EV construction is essentially the same as a standard ICE, other than the batteries and motors, plus no catalytic converter of course. The batteries can be re-purposed (such as fixed storage) after their usable life in the EV (after typically 10+ years), and eventually recycled once they are no good for fixed storage, and motors can be recycled. Most of the materials can be recovered and then reused. Yes recycling needs to be scaled up, but the tech is already there.

Quote: "Even the act of replacing perfectly good ICE cars with EV's is just plain wrong on so many levels"

What are you talking about? People have always replaced their old cars at some point, and if the old car is still okay, it just goes into the 2nd hand market. It's not like anyone switching to an EV is getting their old ICE cars crushed, instead of part-exing or selling it!

Quote: "and people who buy en EV will replace them every 2-3 years just like ICE, so any eco benefits are never fully realized."

So what? If a specific person already gets a new car every 2-3 years, why would having an EV change that? It's just another car.

Besides, the length of time an individual owner has a car is completely irrelevant to any environmental impact, the impact is based on the total life of the car, not how long any specific owner has that car!

Boothy

You don't need chargers in all parking spots at a service station, that's just not really a realistic use case.

Yes some, possibly quite a few, high millage people may well need to charge up regularly at public chargers, but that's not going to be everyone who uses the services.

The main use for services is usually for a toilet break, and stretch your legs a bit, not to fuel up.

Microsoft investigating bug in Windows 11 File Explorer that makes the CPU hangry

Boothy

Re: Details Column width

'Details' view allows you to resize columns just fine.

Are you in 'Content' view instead? Content view is the default you get when searching folders, and does not let you move things around, switch to Details, and you get your re-sizeable columns again.

Microsoft Windows latest: Cortana app out, adverts in

Boothy

Same here.

Switched to Linux (Mint) back in Jan as my primary OS, and my main home usage is gaming, and so far its been quite a smooth journey.

Have dual boot back into my old Win 10 install, but I'm using it less each week.

Still stuck with Windows on the work laptop, but I don't manage that one, so don't really care!

NASA's electric plane tech is coming in for a late, bumpy landing

Boothy

Re: Maybe

Pipistrele already have a flight certified all electric trainer with 50 mins range, so it's already possible.

Forget the climate: Steep prices the biggest reason EV sales aren't higher

Boothy

Re: The ICE will be with us for...

It's only related to new sales, nothing changes for existing cars, so existing ICE cars will still be around for many years to come in the 2nd hand market.

Your next PC should be a desktop – maybe even this Chinese mini machine

Boothy

Quote: "...otherwise Win10 will rearrange all my carefully arranged windows over to monitor 1 and/or randomly all over the feckin place."

Get a copy of IconShepherd, (other tools are likely available). I've been using it for a few years now. (It's commercial, but free for a single personal computer).

It basically saves and restore icon layouts.

One warning, it does have an auto save mode, which is meant to save whenever it detects an icon is manually moved/added etc. But I disabled it, as a couple of times Windows decided to reset my icons to the default left side of the screen, and when I went to restore all the auto saves (it only keeps so many) were from that boot up with all the icons in the wrong place! It was as if the system somehow thought there were lots of changes happening, so auto saved them all, overwriting my 'good' layout. So I just manually save these days.

The new GPU world order is beginning to take shape

Boothy

Re: In a high energy price world...

Quote: "The transient spikes on the 4090 are x2 to x3 of it's requirements."

No they are not, you need to update your knowledge. The x2 to x3 was just rumours, supposedly taken from early PSU testing of the 4090 chips, which were apparently mounted on modified 3090 boards early on.

The power delivery for the 4000 cards is new, or at least updated, since the earlier 3000 cards. The actual transients are much less now.

Gamers Nexus (who have a full lab for this type of testing), showed transient spikes being a maximum of 40% over nominal, not the 200% to 300% you're talking about.

Also don't use cheap PSUs if you fitting a top end GPU, as good quality PSU cope with transients just fine.

Boothy

Re: Waiting for the enevitable

Quote "Along with the excessive power requirements (add a new $300 PSU)'

The increased power was just rumours. If you're doing a like for like swap, the power requirements are basically the same.

e.g. The 3090 Ti was a 450W card, the new top end 4090 is also a 450W card. (Granted a Ti variant in the future might pull more).

Boothy

Re: In a high energy price world...

Where do you get 700 Watts from?

The new top end RTX 4090 is a 450W card, same as the previous 3090 Ti, but the card runs anywhere from 50% to 100% faster than the earlier card, depending on game. So is much more efficient than the previous generation cards.

Bear in mind these are now on a much newer TSMC node, compared to the previous Samsung node.

Unless you're running uncapped framerates you'll likely pull less power from the wall with the 4000 cards, compared to the 3000s, especially with a more regular mid tear card, rather than the 450W 4090.

OK, Google: Why are you still pointing women at fake abortion clinics?

Boothy

False advertising

Are there no rules on false advertising in the US?

e.g. You claim to have 'x' available for free, but actually don't. That's false advertising.

Can't some of these places be prosecuted, closed down, banned from advertising?

Intel's 13th-gen CPUs are hot, hungry, loaded with cores

Boothy
WTF?

Cherry-picked internal benchmarks

Quote: "To this end, Intel released flurry of cherry-picked internal benchmarks that show its new chips besting the two-year-old 5950X and going toe-to-toe with AMD's SRAM-stacked 5800X-3D in a selection of games and productivity apps."

Also worth mentioning they included the specs for the test environments for these benchmarks linked on the slides, and Intel basically didn't set a level playing field. (Shocked I tell you! Said no one). Copy of the slide here (on reddit).

The new Intel system was sporting fast premium 5600 DDR5 memory.

Whereas they fitted the Ryzen systems (5950X and 5800X3D) with 3200 DDR4 memory.

Lots of people complaining about this, as anyone who knows Zen (at least for 2 & 3), knows you generally fit 3600 memory [*], otherwise you gimp the performance of the CPU. You can easily drop around 5-15% in game FPS by using 3200 RAM instead of 3600 RAM.

Also the fact that Intel focused on the 5950X for gaming benchmarks is just odd! The 5950X is not a gaming CPU, with other chips in the range actually being faster for gaming (even before the 5800X 3D). Basically if you're gaming, you want no more than 8 cores, so that you have a single CPU chiplet. More than 8 cores means two chiplets, and the increased latency between them impacts gaming (although doesn't really impact productivity type workloads, and the game impact depends on the specific game).

The 5800X 3D data is in there, but almost as an afterthought, as they just added a tiny little mark on the chart, rather than a new bar, almost as if they were hoping people wouldn't notice the data! Someone on Reddit actually put the bars back in :-) link

With the nobbled RAM, the 5950X and 5800X3D scores likely need to be at least 5%+ higher than they actually are at the moment. Which means over all, the 5800X3D still leads.

As always, for real data, wait for someone like Hardware Unboxed or Gamers Nexus to get hold of the new Intels (they already have the new Ryzen CPUs tested). As they actually know how to do benchmarks!

* In case anyone doesn't know, running the Infinity fabric frequency at a 1:1 ratio with RAM speed, gives best performance in Zen. So 3600 RAM, as it's double rate, runs at an 1800Mhz, same speed as the Infinity fabric. You can also do 3733 RAM and infinity fabric at 1866Mhz for even better performance, but 3733 RAM is less common and some systems can have stability issues.

Boothy

Re: Vs AMD

Yes, new Zen 4 looks very interesting, and from what I've read and watched, the actual architecture hasn't changed massively from Zen 3, a few tweaks here and there, some optimisations etc, but most of the gains have come from the new TSMC n5 node. Zen 5 is rumoured to be a more major architecture update, and also should be on TSMCs n3 node. (Zen 5 due 2024).

I'm on AM4 currently. Did consider moving to AM5, but wasn't keen on being an early adopter for AM5, plus I don't really 'need' a big upgrade. Plus of course the cost of at least needing a new motherboard, new DDR5 memory, and the CPU all adds up.

As I mostly game on this PC (I work on a laptop), I instead ordered a 5800X 3D to replace my now oldish 3800X. That should see me through for a good few years, perhaps even long enough to see AM6 coming out! Especially considering the CPU is rarely the bottle neck in gaming.

Boothy

Re: Countries need to start taxing TDP or some other metric

TDP is already taxed, it's called an electricity bill!

Also TDP has nothing to do with efficiency, TDP is primarily about what cooling you need, efficiency is about the amount of work done, for a given amount of consumed energy.

Each gen of chips is more efficient than the last, that's always been the case, and is unlikely to change any time soon. Yes the TDP has risen, but the work being done for that consumed power has increased to a greater extend, ergo more efficient.

As an example the latest Zen 4 CPUs have ECO modes, in this mode they have a lower TDP setting. A zen 4 in the lowest ECO mode can do around the same amount of work as a Zen 3 CPU, whilst only consuming around 30% of the power. Removing the power restrictions, will increase power consumption of course, but the work done will also increase.

Boothy

Re: Power vs performance

I've mentioned in a post above, but PCWorld (not the UK retailer), did some ECO testing for the 7950X.

Even in 65W ECO mode, the 7950X still beat the multicore Cinebench scores of both the 5950X and i9-12900K, with these both unrestricted.

Boothy

Re: Seems an odd choice for 2022

PCWorld (not the UK retailer), did a good comparison of the ECO modes in the new Zen 4 CPUs. link

The findings were basically:

Tests were done with Cinebench R23

Single core, no drop found in single core performance when in 105W or 65W ECO modes. (single core score is also higher than the old 5950X and the i9-12900K).

In Multicore mode. The 7950X ran about 10% slower in 105W mode (than standard mode), and around 25% slower in 65W mode.

But critically, even in 65W ECO mode, the 7950X was still faster than both the 5950X and i9-12900K, with those two having no power limits applied!

For comparison: The Cinebench R23 multithreaded scores were:

i9-12900K (no power limit): 27,283

5950X (no power limit): 25,600

7950X (no power limit): 37,973

7950X (ECO 105): 34,300

7950X (ECO 65): 28,655

Be interesting to see where the i9-13900K lands in all this.

California to try tackling drought with canal-top solar panels

Boothy

Re: 13GW from four thousand miles of solar panels...

I wondered the same, I watched a video a few months back of physicist Helen Czerski visiting the worlds largest wind turbine, and that was 13MW, but it's a prototype off-shore unit, mounted on shore for testing, so not yet commercially deployed.

I did a quick look up, it's the Haliade-X in Rotterdam port. 260m tall, each blade is 107m long! Seems they expect these to hit 14MW for the production versions.

Looks like they plan to install 100s of these at the Dogger Bank Wind Farm project (along with other similar sized units from different manufacturers), for a total generating capacity of 4.8 GW.

So not even half of the 13GW, and that's going to be the largest offshore windfarm ever built (till the next one of course) :-)

AMD refreshes desktop CPUs with 5nm Ryzen 7000s that can reach 5.7GHz with 16 cores

Boothy

Expensive? These are cheaper on release than the previous gen was on release, and they are cheaper than current comparable (in performance) Intel parts.

For DDR5, yes, it's expensive, all new gen RAM is expensive when first out. DDR4 was no different when it came out, and DDR5 has been the same. But it will gradually drop over time, especially as more and more products start to use it, to drive up competition and economies of scale etc. Don't want to pay the price, don't be an early adopter.

PCIE4? I assume a typo and you mean PCIe5? PCIe4.0 has been around for years now. You also realise that PCIe is fully backwards and forwards compatible? You can put any PCIe device in there, doesn't need to be a new latest top end GPU. Also faster PCIe is more about supporting things like faster SSDs at the moment, rather than GPUs. PCIe5 SSDs are now hitting the market, and the next GPUs are expected to also be PCIe5 (although would likely only make a difference to top end cards). It would make no sense to release a new CPU that only supported the previous PCIe standards, especially when their is no downside, and PCIe5 hardware is already being released.

Also what do you mean by 'inefficient'? These new CPUs are now the most efficient Zen based CPUs released so far. Yes TDP/power draw has increased a little over previous gen when running flat out, but the work being done for each watt consumed has increased by a greater amount, meaning efficiency has increased over previous AMD CPUs (and was already much better than Intel).

Quoted AMD figures (so still needs to be tested independently) show that a 7000 CPU, configured to the same power draw as the comparable 5000 CPU, performs 49% better. i.e. 49% more work being done, at the same power draw. Some of that will be down to the improved architecture, but a lot will be down to the move to TSMCs n5 node (same as used by Apple for their M* ARM CPUs).

Regarding your last comments on power bills, what are you expecting to be doing with your PC? PCs pull power based on demand. Most workloads are finite, i.e. you are asking the PCs CPU to do a specific job, compile code, process image data, run the NPC AI in a game etc. As these CPUs are much more efficient then earlier Zen CPUs, (and all current Intel CPUs), a new AMD PC would consume less power for a given workload than a previous system (more whilst running, but less overall as it finishes sooner). So overall your power bills would likely go down, not up!

AMD boasts of record sales, says 5nm Zen 4 Ryzen 7000 coming this quarter

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Re: On the flip side...

Quote: "(At this point, I suppose I'll wait until Ryzen 7000 has been out for 2-3 months, read the reviews, and then decide whether to risk that.)"

I'd say this is likely a good choice if you're going for a full new build at this time.

The CPUs are almost certainty going to be fine, better node and tweaked architecture, but they are not fundamentally different from Ryzen 5000.

Main issues are likely to be things like BIOS including the low level AGESA from AMD. Plus potentially memory compatibility, which was an issue with early Ryzen, although not so much recently. But AM5 is a new chipset, and new memory architecture so my guess would be a few teething issues to start with, but who knows!

Leaving it a few months from launch, not only gets reviews out, but gives AMD and the board manufacturers time to iron out any BIOS and AGESA issues, driver bugs etc.

Boothy

Same here.

Happy with my AM4 system for now, although will likely drop in a replacement for my 3800X to extend the life of the system. I'm mostly a gamer on this PC (I have a company laptop for work), so I might go for the 5800X3D rather than the 5950X.

Can't see me switching to AM5 any time soon, as that would mean new CPU, Memory and a Motherboard, and some of those are going to be premium prices for a while yet.

One thing to note if you are buying a new GFX card as well, prices have dropped considerably since the start of the year.

As an example, AMDs 6800 XT were around $1,130 USD back in March, these are now under $700. In the UK you can pick up a Gigabyte Radeon RX 6800 XT Gamin OC 16GB for £649.99 from OCUK.

Still not throw away money of course, but way better than it's been for the last year or so.

I paid for it, that makes it mine. Doesn’t it? No – and it never did

Boothy

Re: Before computers we used to make stuff that worked

Small world, I had an uncle who work at DB tractors, my Dad worked at David Brown Gears from the 70s till the early 90s.

My Dad started of on the shop floor, later becoming a draftsman, having a hand in designing many of their products through the 80s, into the early 90s.

I can remember as a teenager going on a tour, and part of the tour was a large stress test room, basically a concrete bunker with a large bench in the middle. It had what I was told at the time, a new gearbox for the military, although they wouldn't confirm which branch, being set up ready for testing (it had a large tarpaulin thrown over it for security!). The rumour was it was a Tank gearbox, but Brown's also did gearboxes for the Navy.

We were told they did both longevity testing in that room, i.e. running continuously for days and weeks at a time, then checking the wear afterwards. Plus also destructive testing. You could see shrapnel damage in the walls!

Back on the tractors, I had a relative that had a small farm, and they had a DB tractor that was already many decades old back in the 80s and still ran perfectly fine. It was the first vehicles I ever drove!

You can liquid cool this Linux laptop to let the GPU soar

Boothy

Re: Stupid and inefficient

What trailblazing performance? If you're just talking about energy efficiency, then sure, but certainly not in overall performance.

Looking at the new M2 based MacBook Pro, the Mac is still overall slower that the best Intel or AMD based laptops in CPU performance, other than a few outlying functions where Apple have implemented some hardware acceleration in their SoC which doesn't exist in the Intel or AMD parts.

The main benefit the Mac has, is it manages what it does while using much less power than the Intel and AMD systems. To put it another way, Intel and AMD burn a lot more energy to get to that faster performance.

Part of this is of course the architecture, but a big chunk is down to Apple using a more efficient TSMC node, specifically the "Enhanced 5-nanometer" N5P process, whilst Intel and AMD are still on older nodes (and AMD being the only other one using TSMC currently).

Be interesting to see how Intels and AMDs newer chips perform, once chips such as AMDs Zen 4 come out in a month or two, which will also be on TSMCs 5nm node.

Intel have also partnered up with TSMC, and are expected to produce some 3nm CPUs, although not till next year some time.

Boothy

Quote: "This machine can take desktop-class CPUs and GPUs."

Assuming you are talking about the one in the article, then no it can't, these are all mobile parts. CPU and GPU.

As an example, the 3080 Ti laptop version is basically the same core chip as the desktop part (same GPU part number), but it has less cores and runs at a slower speed than the desktop version, to keep the heat down. Typically the laptop models, have around the same performance as one or two models down on the desktop side. i.e. A laptop 3080 Ti like this one, will have around the same performance as a desktop 3070 (not Ti).

Still not bad for gaming, I've got a now quite old 2080 (not Ti or Super) in my desktop, and the laptop 3080Ti just beats it in overall gaming performance.

NanoAvionics satellite pulls out GoPro to take stunning selfie over Earth

Boothy

Also don't forget it also needs to be out of focus, as no flerfer has ever learnt how to actually use the P900.

Meta now involved in making metalevel standards for the metaverse

Boothy

The research

Quote: "...researchers [PDF] who recently asked volunteers to work in VR for an entire 40-hour work week saw poor results. Two of the 18 volunteers dropped out entirely and the rest felt frustrated. Some reported significant nausea and sore eyes."

Looking at the PDF, seems the volunteers were given Oculus Quest 2s, which are basically a ~£320 all-in-one system. Essentially a mobile phone type spec device, strapped to your head. Tracking can be a bit lagy, it runs at 120Hz refresh, which is about the bare minimum for comfortable VR, and it doesn't have anywhere near the processing power of a PC. You also have to go via Facebook to use it!

Might have been better off with something like an Index, much better laser based tracking and faster refresh. One issue could be weight though, as the Index is quite heavy (and the cost, plus you also need a PC with the Index).

Intel delivers first discrete Arc desktop GPUs ... in China

Boothy

Re: So, only in China, eh ?

For what it's worth (pinch of salt and all that), apparently laptops have started shipping in Asian markets with the A730M chipset. which is higher end than the one mentioned in the article, but is a mobile part, not desktop.

Someone in China did some benchmarks, including Timespy and a few games, this seems to show the 730M is a bit faster than a mobile 2080 (now quite old), but not as fast as a mobile 3070 (both standard versions, not Ti or SUPER).

Seems drivers are still very rough, as apparently they couldn't even get Shadow of the Tomb Raider to even run!

Assuming they can fix drivers, looks like the A730M is basically a medium tear 1080p mobile part at most.

There are more powerful parts coming out, including non mobile like the A770, but these still only seem to be around the 3060 Ti type performance (based on spec, not benchmarks).

Looks like Intel are focusing on the mid, rather than high end cards, at least for now.

But I'll wait for someone like Hardware Unboxed or Gamers Nexus to actual give the cards a proper run for their money.

Either way, competition is a good things, and it could benefit a lot of gamers, even if they don't buy Intel, it might help push prices down, especially in the mid tear cards, which is what most gamers actually buy.

Sick of Windows but can't afford a Mac? Consult our cynic's guide to desktop Linux

Boothy

Re: Not be happy ... to reinstall my OS from scratch every year or two

I used to rebuild my Win 7 system (and before that XP), so often I created custom install media, that had almost everything preselected (region, keyboard, local user account, drive configuration etc etc), plus service packs, various drivers, and a few must-have applications all pre-installed, i.e. slipstreamed in etc.

All my data was on a 2nd drive and on a NAS. So wiping C: wasn't an issue.

I'd just stick the DVD in the drive (later a USB), reboot, and leave it to it. Come back 30 mins later, and a nice clean install on C:

AMD reveals 5nm Ryzen 7000 powered by Zen 4 cores

Boothy

No idea what the source was atm, but I'd heard that AMD had no plans for big/little type core layouts, as they didn't see what the use case was, and it added additional complexity to things like manufacturing, and the scheduling of tasks. Something that hit Intel, with many games and other tasks actually running slower on their new chips, as game engines etc assumed all cores were equal, this needed patching in the applications to fix.

From what I've seen, the chiplet layout of the new AMD CPUs is the same as previously, i.e. a single IO chiplet (now made by TSMC), and 1 or 2 CPU chiplets depending on which model, with up to 8 cores/16 threads, per chiplet, same architecture as we have now. It's just this time, better IPC, and what looks like a much improved clock speed.

Also the demo CPU that was used for AMDs benchmarks in their presentation, was apparently an early 16/32 core/thread part. So perhaps what will become the new 7950X, assuming they stick to the existing naming convention of course.

Boothy

RYZEN 7000CPU

Puzzled by this statement: "Su discussed only the RYZEN 7000CPU. There's surely more to come, ..."

So far AMD have never released a '*000' CPU model of Ryzen, and when AMD, or anyone else, refers to the *000 they are typically referencing the entire family, not a specific CPU.

I would expect we'd be seeing things like 7600(X), 7700X, 7900X etc. With likely 6, 8, 12 and 16 cores (and perhaps more, especially if there is a new Threadripper at some point).

AMD claims its GPUs beat Nvidia on performance per dollar

Boothy

Hardware Unboxed

Hardware Unboxed have been doing a monthly series of price comparisons, for basically the full range of current Nvidia and AMD cards, based against original MSRP, and ongoing trends.

They also include some older cards, based on eBay 2nd hand prices.

Worth watching of you're considering getting one of the current or older gen cards.

link to Mays vid on Tube-of-you

Boothy

Any reason you didn't go for the 6500XT? i.e. the model that replaced the 5500XT.

There are several 6500XT models for sale on OCUK at under £180 each. Of the 8 listed models, 6 of them are in stock, 2 of those are under £180, two others (also in stock) are under £170.

Demand for GPUs used to mine crypto 'disappearing', says ASUSTeK

Boothy

Re: Unwarranted optimism

That's not really how markets work.

Low stock, drives prices up, as there is no competition, and demand outstrips supply. Healthy stock means supply outstrips demand, and drives prices down, as there is more competition between OEMs, so they have to adjust price to keep selling.

In March very few cards were in stock, across both AMD and Nvidia, and as an example, the AMD 6800 XTs' were around £1200 in March (lowest price).

A quick look on OC UK just now, and almost all (~95%) of all Nvidia and AMD cards are now in stock.

Currently the same AMD 6800 XTs' are ~£820 (lowest price), so almost a £400 drop in two months, and this is still declining.

For ref, the original MSRP for the 6800 XT, was around £650 for the base models, which of course the card has never been sold at by OEMs. But at least it's heading in the right direction!

Also the closer we get to the launch of the new ranges, due later this year, the cheaper the current gen cards are likely to get.

AMD approaches '30%' x86 CPU market share, thanks to servers 'n' laptops

Boothy

Re: Epyc

Apparently the Genoa 96 Zen4 cores are due out Q3 this year, so not far off.

There is also a Genoa-X variant later (Q1 2023), which is a repeat of the new Milan-X, so has a large L3 cache (supposedly the same 3D cache process as they did to the 5800X to create the 5800X3D).

Bergamo, is also out Q1 2023, that is up to 128 cores, but these are Zen4c cores, so lower power parts. (They max out at 400W for 128 'c' cores, same 400W as Genoa does for 96 full fat Zen4 cores).

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