your presence dishonors g+, child actor!
i think i'll wait until some former klingon offers his opinion. or some cardassian badass. this guy has no cred xD
67 posts • joined 10 Feb 2011
fair point about install-time solution to codec problems. however, as a new user, installing ubuntu right away was the last thing on my timid mind. i just ran it off a usb, to test it and see if it's for me. and i couldn't play my music. heck, i went to hell and back figuring out how to find and launch a music player.
"It was the Lady Gaga reference that got my troll senses tingling"
pity. i meant to tingle your sense of humor senses. seeing how canonical recently bragged about that pop culture abomination "running ubuntu", like it's something to be proud of.
sorry for the confusion. i was just role playing as "new user", not trolling.
not a troll. simply "a new user scenario".
and, no, mate, you can't fix that for me like that. when i tried playing that file yesterday you weren't there with your helpful advice. and the system just gave me the error dialogue, no hint about installing any "extras", or how to install them. now, if i were, for example, a long-time debian user, i would've known exactly what to do. but ubuntu is no longer for linux users - it's for the 200 million new users who don't care about linux, who don't know what linux is, who don't like to tinker with their computers, who don't know they should google for answers every time, and who just want things to work, right? or wrong?
which really begs the question: who is ubuntu for nowadays? it's too restricted for linux users, it doesn't work ootb for the masses. it's become a disoriented, dysfunctional project, imo.
.. but i tried playing an mp3 file. it wouldn't play, something called "codecs" was missing.
*and* it wouldn't tell me what to do to make it play.
i don't care about freedom, software freedom, and i'm not computer or otherwise savvy. i just want things to work and not cost anything, so they told me ubuntu's for me.
but how do i make my mp3 files play?
it was lady gaga, btw. my favorite musician.
... but on the other hand you got to admire the finns for bearing him no grudge, considering that linus renounced his loyalty to "foreign princes" when he accepted his u.s. citizenship :)
now, would we be using bsd or even other nix flavor for our kernels today if no linux? that's a tough and interesting question. linux and the tools and programs associated with it grew so strongly because it, the kernel, piqued the curiosity of many contributors very early on, and then inspired people to do incredible work building first distros and bringing together more folk around those projects. i don't know that the bsd had that type of potential to grow, even with linux never in the picture.
linus was already given millions when red hat did its ipo way back when. just in case "life-changing" in the headline implies, "lots of money".
it's true what he says, he certainly is no visionary. he never even had any ambition or plans for the kernel to take off. that it has been so successful and is now so huge and essential to the tech world as we know it is thanks to thousands of its contributors over the years, and also companies like red hat and google who took it to corporate heights.
on my own computer though i prefer community efforts so i run debian, which is as stable and sensible as an OS gets imo.
about jobs and android/google. am i convinced that jobs, a good sales and marketing man that he was, was one of the first to recognize the value and potential of android. in his nightmares he probably saw it gobbling up the market share before those who made android would even dare dream about it. the amount of aggression towards android just showed how much jobs thought it was worth as a competitor.
google will take linux "to the desktop", corporate and otherwise. we know what google is, we know what linux is, it just remains to be seen what will be (re)defined as the desktop in our near future.
that said, i'm happy with my "traditional desktop on a laptop" :) but i'm afraid the future will bring changes.
you don't have to name names. the community knows those names well.
although i run debian for work and play.. i respect red hat because they understand they must give back in order for what they take to be worth anything. simple fact, but it escapes many "linux-leader" wannabes. so although this is really a time for their shareholders to rejoice, anyone who runs any type of linux should also be pleased. for the linux community red hat is the success story, our good name, big upstream contributor, and like i said, leader.
"Red Hat is 42nd on the list, but has a much larger installed base..."
red hat is the world's leading linux on servers and a very, very serious company.
canonical on the other hand are unable to turn a profit and are chicken-thieving debian and a number of other FOSS projects in their bid to become "desktop" leaders.
to which of course i lol, but that's where distrowatch is important. it indicates the popularity of a distro on the desktop, not servers, rather well. canonical previously even quoted their "number 1 ranking on distrowatch" on their ubuntu page. now that they're gone, it's no longer relevant?
i call that clownishly flippant behavior on the part of canonical, that even smacks of desperation.
get your act together and stop whining, you uninspired, uncreative bunch.
"it's not necessarily an actual measurement of solid market share by more accepted metrics such as downloads, installations or revenue"
i agree, but please - what is? anyone who claims they have any known number of users are liars (and that would be canonical with their alleged "20 million users").
there is no way of knowing "the solid market share" of any linux distro, and that is the whole and only truth at this point in time.
distrowatch, on the other hand, has been and still is a good, valid indicator. this was true while ubuntu topped the list, it's true now that ubuntu's gone. as a debian user it would be unnatural for me to like ubuntu or care about its fate, but i'm not particularly pleased either to watch its decline. it *could have been* a linux success. but canonical managed to mix a poisonous concoction of a half-baked product with poor community management. and that's all she wrote.
... and that's *exactly* why MS trolls waste their time and energy day after day, year after year, busily typing their little fingers until they bleed, manipulating unreliable and unofficial data, explaining how irrelevant linux is?
imo one would have to be either batshit crazy or earn 0.05 cents-per-post to waste time in this way.
both "unity" and gnome shell are train wrecks and there's no way around it. being based on debian, ubuntu is still to some degree usable under all that ui horror, though i wouldn't use it personally. fedora on the other hand is basically a permanent RH beta that's good for testing but not running on computers used for work.
people leaving ubuntu imho will find a good new home with mint.
i run debian.
sometimes they just get their mom to buy them an ithing. doesn't mean they're richer. it just means their mom got poorer.
curiously no comments from windows users who got spanked rather wonderfully in the article. reinforces the theory that there may not really be any windows users out there.
how about regaining some sanity and supporting national defense initiatives? the eu is collapsing anyway.
of course nato is an anachronism. it's old and demented. does not even exhibit desired levels of reading comprehension when confronted with own statute.
no wonder peeps steal stuff from them...
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