@IanMoore33 (was: Re: Security Agency?)
"NSA told MS about it and they never released a patch"
Do you have proof of this assertion, or is it purely idle speculation on your part?
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systemd
-free Devuan hits stable 1.0.0 status
It's called inertia, MacroRodent. Once systemd is entrenched deep enough, getting all the other projects that depend on it to change will be virtually impossible. None of your examples were designed to preclude similar software running along side them, on the same machine, often at the same time.
systemd is designed to do exactly that. The authors want control.
systemd is handling far more than just the init function. And as more and more bits of the running system are incorporated into systemd (unnecessarily, for the most part), systemd will become MANDATORY to run Linux. In other words, systemd will become a choke point.
And the choke point is controlled by whom, exactly? It sure ain't "the community" (whatever that is!). Are you certain you want Linux to become capable of being held to ransom? To me, it sounds foolhardy, at best.
And that's without going into any of the technical arguments against it.
As a long-term un*x user, are you sure you are not offended?
You can also try Slackware, if you want "One OS to rule them all":
"Sooo, that has changed."
Has it? From what?
"May I ask how much effort it took?"
I honestly don't remember, so probably not much ... Except I had to run out to Fry's & get a brick of floppys to burn the installation set onto. (I haven't shopped at Fry's since 1996, when they started treating customers like criminals).
Yes, I have all that running, and more. 99% of it worked out of the box (I had to tweak a few bits & bobs to get my third display working). Give Slack 14.2 a whirl. You might be surprised. Report back.
Slackware is my primary desktop, and has been for a long time, but I support Devuan and will have at least one machine here running it for the duration.
IMO, systemd is a cancer that is growing out of control, and needs to be cut out of Linux before it infects enough of the system to kill it permanently.
And that was previously a spam-free email address, too. What did Brian do to you to deserve this kind of treatment?
$ dig JudeanPeoplesFront.org
; <<>> DiG 9.10.4-P8 <<>> JudeanPeoplesFront.org
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 2624
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;JudeanPeoplesFront.org. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
JudeanPeoplesFront.org. 14400 IN A 69.163.166.136
;; Query time: 57 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.254#53(192.168.1.254)
;; WHEN: Thu May 25 10:08:06 PDT 2017
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 67
Don't use real email addresses unless you own them. If you do, you will be causing unsolicited email to be directed at somebody else's email box. That makes you just as bad as the spammers. There is a a reason that we invented example.com ... Me, I use root@127.0.0.1 when I must give an address. Usually a simple "I don't use email" works quite nicely without swearing. Remember, corporate policy isn't the fault of the kid running the POS.
... Black Mountain has quite a bit of old radio gear perched on it. At an elevation of about 2,800 feet, and an easy drive (some would say pleasant) from Apple in Cupertino. Last time I was up there, there was plenty of space/power/security for anything that the wormy one might need.
... did not need the gubbmint to protect her, online or off. That's because I'm one half of her parents, and we take our parental responsibility seriously. Including teaching her how to verify that damn near everything that any politician ever utters is a lie, with the singular goal of advancing their own career.
How are you going to manage to code something that you can't even teach humans to do properly? I mean, really, have you not noticed that so-called "customer service/support" is almost universally reviled? I rather suspect that getting your existing house in order before trying to automate it would be a good idea ... Throwing CPU time at a problem without first understanding the problem will never work, regardless of what the AI folks are trying to claim ...
Well, ElReg keeps insisting on displaying pictures of politicians ... and as we know, they are all a bunch of bumbling boobs. They are certainly offensive to the proverbial "thinking man". Methinks politicians should be banned from facebook & twitter!
No, Ballmer hasn't ... because "Barkto" was fairly conclusively outed as being Rick Segal, or perhaps a flunky of Rick's. Microsoft was running scared. Still is, in some ways, thus the "if you can't build or buy better technology, baffle the illiterate with bullshit and FUD" form of marketing they embrace.
The buzzphrase you are looking for is "focus follows pointer". Windows had it natively as an option starting with Win95 (registry hack ... I believe TweakUI could make the change). It's useful for some things, hellaciously annoying for others. I use it probably once a month or so on Slackware w/KDE (pointy-clicky: System Settings -> Window Behavior -> Window Behavior -> Focus, a slider gives 6 different variations on the theme.)
Why the fuck are we even thinking about using a General Purpose OS to run specific purpose equipment? Quite honestly, I've never seen a need to create a spreadsheet, do a little desktop publishing, or browse TehInterWebTubes when using my Bridgeport CNC; my local small animal vet sees no need to do the above when running bloodwork, and my neighbor (who runs the MRI machine here at a local hospital) says he's never seen a need for the above at work, either.
And now they are putting full-blown Linux into coffee pots and Windows into Refrigerators? WTF? Where in the hell did this need to"OverOS" machinery come from, anyway? Am I the only one who remembers when small & elegant was considered de rigueur?
Me, I blame marketing running what should be engineering firms ... ANYway, is it any wonder that this entire conversation is happening? We're quite simply using the wrong tools for the job in the first place! Is anybody really all that surprised that they break?