* Posts by squilookle

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Natwest freezes debit cards, online banking in fresh cock-up

squilookle
Pint

Re: @squilookle

Yeah, I know it's nearly impossible to get paid in cash (unless you look for employers that are less than reputable). I was thinking more along the lines of withdrawing it on pay day - although I would never really go to that extreme anyway. Too much effort and the money would be liable to getting lost in the event the house got broken into/flooded/burned down.

My point is that, as you say the outages are happening too often - I don't expect the banks to operate with no mistakes but there really are a lot at the moment.

As well as the outages, there is the issue of customer service - I don't know anyone that does not have at least one horror story about a bank. I have had dealings with Nationwide, Natwest, Halifax and Lloyds TSB and I have horror stories about all of them. Ridiculous things like them sending bank statements to deceased relatives for nine months after they passed away (bank notified properly, the statements were addressed to "The Late..." (Natwest) Sending mail to deceased relatives after having been notified (Natwest, Nationwide, Halifax). Failing to implement change of address after the procedure was followed (Nationwide, Halifax), getting through to someone in the call centre who was avoiding calls but forgot to mute his phone so I could hear him talking about avoiding calls (Natwest). Sending bank statements after the account was closed (repeatedly) (Lloyds). Getting a payment taken out of my bank twice, taking me over my overdraft limit and then getting charged for it (Nationwide).

Those are mine, and I haven't even (and won't) touched on the murky operations beyond the consumer branches of these organizations, obscene bonuses and the like.

I know I sound like an outraged Daily Mail Reader (I'm not, by the way) but the banks really are in a bad way at the minute, and although I'm exaggerating when I suggest withdrawing all the money and putting it under the mattress, there is a serious point about whether they can be trusted with the responsibilities they hold, and I don't believe they can.

Rant over - I'm going for a pint now.

squilookle
Mushroom

It really is starting to look like you're better off shoving your money under your mattress than leaving it in the care of these clowns.

Any regular business that made as many mistakes as all the banks have done in recent years have gone out of business by now.

Nationwide DOUBLES card payments in fresh banking gaffe

squilookle
Devil

They did that to me last year when i booked some flights and took me over my over draft limit, and charged me for the privilege.

They are pretty incompetent, but I challenge the accusation that they are "are the most incompetent bank EVER"... that title goes to Natwest, even before you take into account the recent clanger.

LG, Samsung, Sony: Smutty Smart TV apps turn us off

squilookle
Stop

Restrictions on the apps that can be installed - probably in an even less consistent manner than the iDevices, (whatever you think of that) - yet another reason to avoid smart TVs and put a box of your choice underneath a dumb TV with good build quality, good panel and plenty of HDMI ports.

Droid X360 hybridises PS Vita and Android

squilookle
Angel

@AC 08:37

The design is ripped off but you comment on this as it is a new phenomenon - it is something that has been rife throughout the history of gaming and, while I agree it's not right, I don't think it is the reason gaming is fucked up. (DRM, yearly releases, games componies treating their customers with contempt, parts of games that should have been included getting sold as DLC - I have no problem with DLC if done right - are the reasons gaming is fucked up).

Other than that, this might be (if it is decent) a decent games console that does not lock you into an ecosystem controlled by one company. As much as I understand Sony, Nintendo et al need some lock in to make money, this might be what me and others have been waiting for, and is innovation, albeit innovation in an unimaginative design.

Incidentally, I thought it was going to play XBox games based on the name.

Brit holidaymakers forced to surf in the sea, not online

squilookle
Coat

"3 customers trying to use their phones and dongles abroad may have had trouble getting connected,"

To be fair, that's not many customers affected.

Sorry, couldn't resist. :(

Watching Olympics at work? How to avoid a £1k telly-tax fine

squilookle
Pint

@LinkOfHyrule

"they're like little morish rich tea biscuits - laced with crack"

True and I claim a new keyboard for that one.

"you start living a double life of minimised firefox windows"

Mine's Chrome with the Decreased Productivity extension.

You'll see an upvote on your post when you check in 15 minutes.

Happy Friday.

Samsung SMACKDOWN: US appeals court keeps ban on Galaxy Tab

squilookle
Black Helicopters

I know it's going to read as arrogant - as if I'm saying the UK court must be right and the American one is not - but between the completely opposite decision made in the UK, the fact a ban has been granted by the American court in the first place, the refusal to stay the ban and the refusal to speed up the proceedings, I can't help but wonder if this is a simple case of an American court taking the side of the American company because they are American

It may not be the case, but that's the feeling I get from all this.

Microsoft 'didn't notice' it had removed Browser Choice for 17 months

squilookle
Windows

Good. That screen is a pita. Of the few computers I support for friends/family, those who saw the screen were confused by it, those who would be interested had already jumped and so did not see it.

I rarely defend ms, but they should be shipping a browser with their OS and its reasonable it should be their own browser. I don't recall Windows ever attempting to make it difficult for me to install an alternative.

Google pushing Jelly Bean updates to Android devices

squilookle

Re: Mobile Software Upgrade Strategy rankings

@bazza

I'll clarify: I'm not saying that lists cannot be made, I'm saying that they cannot be presented as fact. Your list is your opinion, not fact, as is any list that I or anyone else could come up with.

I see your point on security, and while I'm sure updates to the OSes have security/bug fixing elements, they don't have regular, dedicated security updates in the same way as the desktop OSes do. For that reason, I believe you have a point, but I don't believe it necessarily elevates WP7 to the #1 spot in this area. I believe issues with Android security stem more from people downloading malware from Google Play than from lack of security updates. I have personally had no such issues and have been using Android since early 2009.

I'm more concerned about losing my mobile and having someone get into it with physical access than I am about remote access, tbh. Android allows you to lock with a pattern and I'm sure all the other OSes have similar features.

squilookle
Stop

Re: Mobile Software Upgrade Strategy rankings

@bazza

Firstly, it's really not possible to rank the different OSes in the way you have and present it as fact. For you, MS might be #1 because of the reasons you stated, but for others, Android might be #1 because they can grab the source code or a community build and install that.

Secondly, my phone is still running Gingerbread and tbh, I don't care. It works as well as it did when I took it out of the box and it does everything I need it to. Having said that, I wouldn't mind an upgrade either, but I know others who would probably prefer that the UI of their phone did not change and so would not want to upgrade.

The different phone makers/OSes have very different strategies to updates and the different strategies suit different people. This is good - it is choice. If you want the latest OS, make sure you pick a handset that will get upgrades, or be willing to root your phone and install other builds yourself. If you aren't bothered or want to save some pennies, then you can buy a that won't get updates, but which might end up costing a little less.

No need to rank them and present it as fact. Everyone has their own list.

Cut'n'paste UK launch for cut-price Motorola Android

squilookle
Trollface

"Just turn this smartphone on and get instant access to the people and things in your life that matter most."

So you don't even have to log in with your Google account? You just turn this smartphone on and get instant access to the people and things in your life that matter most?

How does it know????

RIM: Maybe we can't flog BlackBerrys, but would you like a jet?

squilookle
Trollface

"We’re looking at options with both our aircraft costs and finding ways to reduce our travel while still making sure we keep in close contact with our partners around the world," the firm said. “It’s all part of the effort to find ways to reduce costs and drive efficiencies that Thorsten Heins has talked about.”

If only there was some kind of device that would allow them to contact their partners around the world without travelling.

Ballmer plays down sales impact of Surface

squilookle
Go

After the hash other makes have made of pitting Android tablets against the iPad - various glaring flaws, high prices, lack of support/updates, necessary UI overlays and crapware (the latter may apply more to phones than tablets, I don't know) I think MS absolutely have to do this if they want to make sure that Windows 8 is a success. I'm no expert on the matter, but it looks to me that most of the competition to the iPad has been half-arsed and that too many corners have been cut.

It should hopefully push the other manufacturers into doing a better job with their Windows tablets and so help the success of the platform. If the other makes are nervous, then they deserve to be. I really think there is room for tablets other than the iPad, if the manufacturers get the balance between quality, features, price and support right.

Google Nexus 7 Android tablet

squilookle
Thumb Up

Looks good. I was skeptical about tablets at first but got one because it was cheap. I now use mine all the time now, mostly for reading ebooks. I like being able to switch between the ebooks and a web browser, play spotify on it at the same time, etc, so for that reason it is more suitable to me than a dedicated ereader.

If I didn't already have a tablet (I would probably still be skeptical and not looking) and could see the benefit of them despite having not had one, I would definitely be looking at one of these.

Microsoft sets October date for Windows 8 release

squilookle
Windows

Re: is it shit or is it good? is it shit or is it good?

"6.1 (until the marketing department told them to up it to 7 to match the box number)"

Was Windows 7 not numbered 6.1 rather than 7 because it was thought changing the major version number would break compatibility with some third party software, and that MS did not want people to have problems like that after the issues that were reported with Vista?

Ex-Nokia staffers team up to revive MeeGo

squilookle
Linux

I agree with A/C 10:30.

Good luck to them with this, but I got one of the Touchpads and, after planning to put Android on it and never getting round to it (and discovering preware), I found that I really like webOS.

I have high hopes for Open webOS and really hope some phone and tablet makers pick it up and run with it.

Burnt Samsung Galaxy S III singed by external source, probe reveals

squilookle
Trollface

Re: He

Absolutely. I hear that Apple don't check iPhones for exposure to water and exchange them, no questions asked.

Gamers bereft as Xbox Live takes a dive

squilookle
Joke

Ha! I have no broadband this evening so wouldn't have noticed. Coincidence, or conspiracy to keep me from gaming online?

Tin foil hat icon please.

UK is first class for train Wi-Fi in Europe

squilookle
Pint

The French might not have many wifi hotspots on their trains

But the trains do a vastly superior job of doing what trains are meant to do - getting you to where you want to be - in my experience. Seriously, some of their trains make ours look like a really old, neglected train set.

Perhaps we could focus on the basics of running a train network before we start throwing money at things like this which, as the author points out, will eventually become redundant.

@Anonymous Coward 08:18: The pint icon is for your post.

Did your iPhone 'just stop working' - or did you drop it in your BEER?

squilookle
Thumb Up

This is a patent they can have, for me

Feel free to set the lawyers on anyone who infringes it, Apple. This is and any intrusive advertising patents you have. Rare occasions where we don't mind.

Big media little iPad stories suggest Apple is cranking up the spin cycle

squilookle

Could be that the sources "familiar with the situation" saw a regular iPad that was far away and mistook it for a miniature one. Or an iPhone that was really close up.

Either way, while Apple's history of copying others may be fiercely debated by the fanbois and anti-fanbois, I would think releasing a 7 inch tablet now would be following the trend rather than setting it, which is a position I don't think Apple would want to be in.

I could be wrong, but I'm as skeptical of this as I am the Apple TV (set), and will remain so until I see it announced.

The Ribbon will come into its own in a touch interface.

squilookle
Linux

One common complaint about the ribbon is that it takes up screen real estate, and that will not change on a tablet. In face, there is even less space on most tablet screens, especially if you're using an on screen keyboard.

Also, for the ribbon to be useful, the tablet would have to be a decent work machine in the first place, and I believe that most people would agree that is not the case.

So, I see your point, but I don't think it is well suited. I think the ideal, in certain environments, would be HUD matched with voice recognition. True, you would have to be in an environment where you wouldn't disturb anyone else or worry about people trying to listen to what you were doing, but I think you could get fairly productive with such a set up.

Google Maps takes shelter from the British summer

squilookle
Mushroom

"none are the supermarkets which are surely the indoor place where one is most often lost."

I have a second job in a supermarket and most people get lost because they don't apply common sense or read signs. The signs hanging from the ceiling telling you what is in the aisle below are common to most supermarkets but many people seem to be unaware of their existence. If you can't use signs with big text hanging from the ceiling, then you probably can't navigate using Google maps anyway.

I frequently get snarky comments from customers over the fact the cooked meats have moved since they last came in the shop. That means those customers have not been in the shop for the last 5 years... because that's when the cooked meats were last moved. Supermarkets do change from time to time though, and I'm guessing the maps would not get updated each time anyway.

That started off as a sarcastic one liner and became quite a rant. I surprised myself there.

Tablets to outship laptops in 2016 SHOCK

squilookle
Devil

On the one hand, yes, tablets may sell more because they can probably be viewed as more personal than computers and laptops. Therefore, you may find households buying one computer for the house and a tablet for each person.

On the other hand, they will sell more until everyone has one and/or the excitement fades away, then sales will slow down as people just replace broken or outdated tablets.

I just surmised that in about 30 seconds. I'm sure they "research" these things in more depth, but I really don't know how they occupy the other 7 hours of their working day. Or how they get paid for spouting such pointless crap.

What is the Nokia Secret Plan if Windows 8 isn't Windows gr8?

squilookle
Windows

I like the look of these new Nokia phones and of WP7, and when my contract is up I will consider them. I will also consider a few different Androids, as I have been an Android user since the G1 and I'm happyh with it, but I owe my loyalty to noone and will jump platform if it benefits me.

So I will weigh up things like whether or not the phone does everything I need, battery life, cost etc. The lack of certainty over the future of the phone and software will be a mark against it, but we'll see what happens.

I have some time left yet, so the W8 phones might be out by then. However, my point is that I think MS have made a mistake in leaving too many unanswered questions about the future, at a time they need users, app developers and hardware makers to invest in their platform. I'd like to see a choice of more than 2 mainstream platforms, whatever anyone thinks of Windows.

Microsoft sets the price for a Windows 8 upgrade at $40

squilookle

Re: Drivers

@auburnman

Our HP OfficeJet 4500 has worked flawlessly with Linux Mint 13 and Ubuntu 11.10/12.04. I set it up and put it on my network (I did do this using my Windows box and the supplied CD, but I'm confident it would just work if you plugged it in via USB), went to add a network printer in Linux and it was listed. Clicked on it, it pulled in the drivers, and that was it.

Scanning and printing work in Mint. Printing was fine in Ubuntu and I never tried scanning, but I assume it would work too.

Tech fault at RBS and Natwest freezes millions of UK bank balances

squilookle
Pint

@Andrew James

Good advice, cheers.

I just checked again and everything is as it should be now. Looks like they are gradually getting it sorted. Hope others are experiencing the same.

squilookle
FAIL

Today is payday for us. My wages were not showing this morning on my account balance, and I could not get a statement online.I checked again at abut 15:00 and I can now get a statement online that shows my wage is there, but the balance has yet to be updated to reflect it, so there is some movement, atleast.

I have more due to come out over the next few days than I have in the account (unless my balance gets fixed today) and there will be trouble if they try to charge me for going over. I see a few people have asked what will happen in that case on Twitter but they are ignoring customer questions and just tweeting canned statements every so often.

Natwest have been nothing but trouble for me since I joined them three years ago, and I'm already shopping around to move on.

Microsoft's uncloaks Phone 8 developer preview

squilookle
Meh

Re: "Phone 7 users won't be able to upgrade to Windows 8"

@h4rm0ny

"The people who don't have a WP7 device seem to be getting more worked up about its inability to upgrade than those who have one. It's not suddenly going to stop working or no longer be able to do the things I bought it for. It's still a very nice phone."

I think you have the most sensible post here. The lack of upgrade is not that big of a deal to anyone but those who feel they must constantly have the latest software. Everyone else, I'm sure, will continue quietly using their phones to the end of their contracts, and then will upgrade when they get a new phone.

I don't blame anyone who decides they don't want to invest in WP7 now, I wouldn't myself, but I don't think it warrants any vitriol.

Sony slams Nintendo Wii U functionality

squilookle
Gimp

Re: No shit, Sherlock

Sounds marvellous! Let us know when you have found a game that uses that and is made better for it. It's a nice theory and likely to remain so, because Sony will never get their act together and implement it, and even if they do very few people are going to have 4 vitas to hand to make use of it.

The Wii U, on the other hand, is on it's way and owners of the console *will* have the tablet controllers. I assume Nintendo are aware of the extra strain the controllers will put in the console, and that they have designed it accordingly.

Sorry to sound like a Nintendo fanboi, I'm really not (I've actually fallen out with them over their recent lack of support for disabled gamers), but I'm hearing “Sony could do this better with the hardware they already have out” and I'm seeing nothing implemented and nothing that would amount to anything more than a gimmick in 2 or 3 titles and then vanish...

squilookle
WTF?

Re: No shit, Sherlock

It isn't completely dead. Certainly not any more than the Vita is, anyway...

squilookle
FAIL

No shit, Sherlock

"Sony Worldwide Studios VP Scott Rhode highlighted the fact that Nintendo's tablet controller is without its own games processor, so will be always be driven by "that box sitting under your TV"."

It's designed to be driven by the box sitting under the TV. That's the point. Nintendo already have a portable console with it's own games processor. It's called the 3DS. Why would they want to make another one in the form of this controller and bundle it with the home console? It would kill off the 3DS if they did that.

Retina Display detachment

squilookle
Linux

Well I'm not "bitchin'", and you have nailed my point anyway, really. I don't want this laptop, I want a different one. Let's hope we keep the choice to buy a different laptop and not end up in a situation where mainstream manufacturers follow suit with their entire ranges, making different laptops difficult to come by?

Will that happen? It's not a certainty, but it's possible.

squilookle
Thumb Down

I have a (non Apple) tablet that doesn't have ethernet or an optical drive, but that's ok because it's a tablet.

Could it be that we are taking ideas from tablets and applying them to other computers, where the ideas don't make sense?

I currently would not buy a computer without a drive that can read and write DVDs at the very least, or ethernet. Admittedly the DVD drive only gets used for burning and booting Linux images, and ripping/burning the odd CD/DVD. I'm not the target audience of this computer, but I find the idea that others will follow (and they will) very worrying.

Must try harder: Cumbria tells BT and Fujitsu to resubmit fibre plans

squilookle
Trollface

At least, AFAICT, they aren't rejecting the bids because they don't like the design of the cabinets... that would be ridiculous.

Hands on with Nintendo's Wii U

squilookle
FAIL

Re: Errm

The ps3 does do all that, I never said it didn't. That's why it was ok for a console not to do all that in 2006, but its not ok for a console not to do that now, because we've seen consoles do these things and we expect it. But we aren't talking about the ps3, we're talking about the Wii-U. Try to keep up, mate.

squilookle
Gimp

Re: *Sigh*

In Nintendo's defense, they did the N64 with marketing focused on being the most powerful console on the market, and it got beat by the competition (I wouldn't call it a failure, they still seemed to sell well).

Then there was the Gamecube, which again I believe was fairly powerful. It certainly seemed powerful compared to the PS2. Same thing.

Then there was the Wii, underpowered, focused on gameplay, not power, and it sold more than the competition, and they made profit on the units when their rivals were making a loss..

That is all anecdotal and from the top of my head, not checked or researched, but I believe it to be a fair description of the last three generations.

So if you were Nintendo and about to release a new console, what would you do? I know what I would be selling and it wouldn't be cutting edge.

squilookle
Angel

I'm not sure, but I'm not going to rule it out yet as many did that with the Wii and they were proven wrong.

What I really want from a console is fun games that look good, good developer support, I'd like it to do multimedia (Netflix, DVD, and playing back files from a USB or local harddrive are essential, Bluray would be nice, PVR functionality might be nice if done well). As far as social networking, I like to see when my friends are online and what they are playing, being able to play a game with them if they own the same game is essential, but it all needs to be unotrusive and optional.

The whole package should be realistically priced, of course.

I'm not sure what the multimedia capabilities on this are like, and from what I've seen, it looks like the social networking is a bit too 'in your face', but I'll have a closer look when they arrive and see where we stand. I don't expect this one to be for me though, and I say that as a fan of the original Wii*.

*which does hardly any of the stuff I listed. But that was okay in 2006.

HTC locked out of Windows 8 tablet party

squilookle
Meh

"Redmond made the decision based on the fact that HTC doesn’t sell enough tablets or have enough experience in the space, “people with knowledge of the matter” told Bloomberg."

Not sure how anyone can say that and expect to be taken seriously. I would argue they have a lot of experience and, if focused, would be capable of producing the best (and best selling) W8 tablet. I thought the HTC Flyer was great, although too expensive. This was an issue that affected a lot of Android tablets at the time.

My last 2 phones have been HTC and I have been very happy with them both.

I'm not sure why they haven't released more tablets than they have, but I suspect there are other political reasons for Microsoft's decision.

Flying Dutchman creates dead cat quadcopter

squilookle
Devil

No Gatling guns???

Good start, Mr Jansen, but you aren't quite there yet.

http://shop.theoatmeal.com/collections/frontpage/products/gatling-kitty-signed-print

Windows 8 Release Preview open for download

squilookle
Meh

Re: Isn't it odd...

"or some flavour of Linux is a better change, though watch out, Unity on Ubuntu appears to follow the Win 8 paradigm, and that attracted so much hostility that certain discussion boards were shut down over it."

Key differences with Unity are that you get a new Ubuntu every 6 months, so we probably got Unity before it was really ready (those who think this is a negative should stick to LTS releases or other distributions with different release schedules as some users would want to get the software as soon as possible, so this is not necessarily a bad thing depending on who you are and what you want). Also, there have always been alternatives to Unity: other distros with Gnome Shell, other distros that still support Gnome 2 and KDE, XFCE and the like on the Ubuntu base and on other distros.

I'm willing to wait and see where MS are taking this before forming an opinion on it. I'm not too keen on Metro on my XBox, I preferred the layout of the dash before. My biggest gripes with the XBox are that the dash is laggy, you can't turn the adverts off, and typing in some situations in cumbersome because the letters are just lined up side by side scross the screen rather than being arranged as a virtual keyboard (but sometimes you get the virtual keyboard, so we have bad design AND inconsistency). Either way, I probably won't be making the jump to Windows 8, but I won't be avoiding it either unless, after I have tried it, I really don't like it.

Amazon's Lovefilm HD shuns Sony fanboys

squilookle

Re: I'm sticking to sales

Good choice and I respect it. I've gone to Netflix primarily because I don't have/want a subscription TV service, and I've found after buying DVDs for ten years that I now have boxes full of DVDs I haven't watched for years and they're just taking up space in my house. I can sell them, but it's effort to do so, and the difference between what I pad for them and what I'll get back is probably more than the Netflix subscription.

I do still buy DVDs of films and TV series if I'm really a fan of them.

Samsung Galaxy S III

squilookle
Angel

So which is better, the One X or this?

Both got 90% and good reviews, but I have seen more hype about the Samsung.

Opportunity for El Reg to do an article pitting them side by side perhaps? (Maybe a 3 way contest against the iPhone since I'm sure some people will want to see that comparison, though I'm only bothered about the Samsung and the HTC myself)

Fedora aims cloudwards with Beefy Miracle release

squilookle
Trollface

Re: Fedora is all very nice and all...

I think the amount of attention Fedora gets here has more to do with the Red Hat being used in business than the popularity of Fedora itself. Ubuntu will obviously get mentions here because it has been very popular for a relatively long time.

Mint may be doing well at the moment, but that may still prove be a blip, however good it is. When the dust settles and Unity has matured (or when folk have gotten used to the different way of working) it may still turn out that Ubuntu is on top. If, over the next couple of years, Mint can replicate the success that Ubuntu enjoyed over the last few years, then I would expect to see reviews and announcements here and on other sites.

Personally, I like Unity but I've just gone back to KDE/Kubuntu, although that is more to do with the fact I feel KDE 4.x has matured than a dislike of Unity or Gnome shell.

Samsung refreshes ChromeOS hardware with first desktop system

squilookle
Linux

"For the same money as the 550 Chromebook Samsung will sell you a Pentium-powered 15.1 inch Windows 7 system that doesn't need an internet connection to be useful."

^This. I'd rather get a cheap laptop and put a traditional Linux distribution on it. That would give you pretty much all the benefits ChromOS is supposed to have, with none of the drawbacks, a PC that works offline, and tonnes of traditional applications and games.

Credit to them for thinking and trying new things, but I don't see why anyone would want one... although people have said the same thing about other devices that have gone on to be successful*.

*Generous comment as I don't believe the first round was successful, although I suppose we won't find out if they don't release the figures.

Facebook phone tagged for 2013 release

squilookle
Trollface

Re: I need

@AC 20:26: Surely Android 6 will be called something like Kiwi Mousse Cake or something?

@AC 20:30: I could be wrong, but I was under the impression Twitter was emerging as the "cooler" option for the demographic you mention. I actually think if this takes off, it will be the older ladies playing Farmville behind it, not the kids.

TalkTalk subsidiary's customer data placed on the web in IIS whoopsie

squilookle
Megaphone

Even if this is not their problem, for their rep to come out with "It's not one of our servers, so it's not our problem," is really bad, shows them in a bad, uncaring light and gives the opportunity for negative headlines, although it is quite refreshing to see a straight forward answer with no canned, cliched statements, weasel words or other bullshit that is so common from any big company these days. .

Now if we could just get them to do that AND take responsibility for their actions, we would be going in the right direction.

Scotland considers dishing out more iPads to schoolkids

squilookle
Facepalm

@JDX

Touch interfaces may be more intuitive for them, but school is not about giving them the easiest thing, it's about teaching them, so they are prepared for adult life and work when they get there. I'm not saying that means we have to make things difficult for the sake of making them difficult, I'm saying they can learn more from using a desktop computer, and then there are the other benefits I listed in my original post too. Primary school kids CAN use desktop computers. They have been doing it for years. When I was at school, we had a mixture BBC Micros and RISC OS. I'm sure kids since then have also managed fine too.

If tablets are so intuitive, then they don't need to be taught how to use them: they will figure it out themselves as and when they come across them. On the other hand, if we teach them from the start that this is what computing is, then we're going to have employers in 20 years time complaining the folk they just took straight out of university can't type, etc. But I suppose that won't matter because they'll be able to find the video they want to watch. Very useful.

squilookle
Linux

What are the kids going to learn from these iPads that they could not learn from some cheap desktops or laptops in a computer room?

I wouldn't want to hold the schools back, but I don't think new technology should be shoehorned in just for the sake of it either, and iPads are expensive, less versatile, less upgradeable and will become outdated much faster than a traditional computer would.

The cynical part of me wonders if Apple are pushing this for the same reason MacDonalds sell happy meals - get them familiar young and they will come back as adults.

Tux because it's the closest icon we have to a baby duck. Can we have a baby duck icon please?

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