Re: I do not miss my commute at all
When having to go in and out of London from cambridge any commuter time train was (if you were lucky) sending room only in both directions
2000 posts • joined 14 Jun 2010
The idea of needing to be in an office with a split team is the height of lunacy but has afflicted the pathetic middle management for decades. If I can work with someone in bangalore I can work with someone 200 miles away. Its not just the time of the commute but the inevitable high cost of housing within commuting range that passes me off. At the moment my team are spread out over about 3000 miles but we are on conference calls working together all the time
I have also worked for consultancies on site. This is just as bad and unnecessary as working from your companies office. I work in a team, face to face with the team and often the boss all the time on video, working together. Two or three meetings with the extended team including coffee and cake on Friday, just virtual instead of in person. Hell even exercise together in the morning! What is needed is more imagination and less moaning. Time to realise you get a lot of extra time for family, friend. Sport and hobbies. I took my daughter for a couple of hours swimming after work yesterday, far nicer than sitting in the sun in a traffic jam
If you missed details then it was the way you and your team worked and the boss kept you informed. In my team we carried on with mob programming, planning and other meetings, nothing lost and productivity up. The company saves thousands a year reducing office space, desks, lighting, air conditioning, car parking space, security, insurance, coffee etc etc and the environment isn't hit by those costs and the cost of your commute. Most people lose 2 to 3 hours every day to sitting in traffic jams, that's time they could spend on helping their kids education, getting fit, hobbies etc.
Interestingly for HMG contracts you need to report on CO2 (including commuting) and show a meaningful plan for net zero CO2 for latest 2050. Having people sat in traffic jams even if they were in electric cars isn't going to do that
The UK has double taxation agreements with just about every country to avoid you paying twice. You would have needed to be in Frankfurt 181 days in a tax year, easily avoided by a couple of weekends back in Blighty to collect some proper food (sausages cheese and beer as the German versions are revolting)
That's ok, spend 90 days in France and 90 in Spain then try Italy a while, you can buy a place in all for less than the price of a beer. (Ok, slight exaggeration but Italy does have 1 euro houses, some parts of Spain similar, Portugal is cheap and you can get a place needing work for under 20k in France
A company decided to have a chat with me, then came back and claimed the software engineering job HAD to be in the office FULL time.
I went back to Cariads website and read again the bullshit about multiple countries, modern, distributed, the networked nature of the car software being developed and the environmental credentials (cough, part of VW, cough diesel, cough) and then wrote to the CEO briefly comparing the website with the reality from his middle managers. This of course is Germany where managers are authoritarian, ungrateful, rude, racist and useless but in charge of a highly obedient workforce... yes some stereotypes are unfortunately very true indeed
Of course, they keep using foreign contractors whose charging rates are colossal but employ 2ngineers in bangalore for less a year than they charge our government a day, nothing happens but the project managers have 2 years for some excuse making and finding out how much bribe is required for civil servants to sign up again
All because we don't have 20percent of our workforce idle and IT salaries falling from lack of demand. Of course it's cheaper to send money and work abroad and pay unemployment than it is to pay locals and keep money, employment and skills here. Of course 1500 quid a day for employing an engineer in Bangalore via a French company paying zero tax here is a bargain. I wish I knew where the civil servants responsible kept their back pocket cash as they must be bulging from the bribes
If anyone is really checking the cookie laws they should start with the BBC website. You can accept cookies, you can read all sorts of bullshit about cookies but you can't reject them. Once you have closed them down until it's fixed you can then go for everyone else including the register, there is no such thing as an essential cookie, nothing, they aren't needed, learn to program and stop being lazy
Apparently we are to forego coal fires and so on for the environment yet people are willing to damage the environment with excess waste. I was repairing a motorcycle, while getting the parts I checked the price of some washers from triumph. They wanted over a pound each, a pack of 50 was 50p from the market, they were cheap nylon washers, nothing special. Manufacturers of all types go out of their way to prevent repairs by over pricing Spares, using single use fittings, over complex assembly and similar tactics, hell HP even build iron their printers and cartridges software to prevent you using anything but their own 10times the price of the alternatives ink. We should all just stop buying from these people. I don't, it's doing me no harm. HP and Lenovo are two of a long list because of their poor practice
Well I have saved over 3grand a year in fuel. I have had an extra 3 hours or more to help my kids with their homework and teach them science, help them fix their pushbike etc. I have increased my output and worked with my fellow workers to deliver the promises made, I have done free overtime, I have lost weight and lowered my blood pressure with less stress, better food and exercise.
In return the company doesn't require to fund my office space (about 3grand a year rent, heating, coffee, security). It gets built in disaster residence - my laptop has the git source code in case the office server gets burnt, even if my house flooded I am quite sure Fred's won't have done, no thief is going to go to every house of the whole team (thousands of miles for a start). Work from home is a win for all but the Chinese dickless wonder who doesn't get his highs from bullying the staff or eyeing up the receptionists clevage
The thing that really passes me off is the assertion we can only work if we sit next to each other but that of course we can work with a team in Bangalore that's not even in the same timezone. These managers can be judged accurately by the fact that all of UK industry has been totally and utterly fucked over while better paid jobs flourish in germany
The answer is no. Blunt and simple. There is no need and I am not wrecking the environment and my life to bolster the ego of a dickless wonder who thinks he should be a manager. The time for this is over, we have proved we don't need to be in the office to be productive. I don't need to be tethered to one of the most expensive and ugliest areas in order to waste 3 hours a day and 3000 quid a year traipsing in to an airless disease ridden, stinking, air conditioned or overheated shit hole with crap tea and worse coffee and a microwave that any competent health authority would condem
Governments could try and make wfh unattractive like that but the environmental lobby will tear them to shreds. It's a shame the environmentalists aren't saving Google and apple. I have swapped my search engine for obvious reasons and have decided to go back to my Symbian smartphone so I won't support Google or apple
You need a law because while some employers have a brain it is clear others dont - notably apple and Google. Those companies even offshore there profits to avoid contributing to the road building their selfish, shortsighted and stupid micromanagement obsessions cost. Then they have the cheek to talk about green credentials while causing pollution directly from their choices
Most companies rent office space and it is very expensive, then there is the parking. On top of this is the heating, lighting, air conditioning, insurance, reception, cleaning, security, office managers, tea, coffee, canteens. The costs are enormous. Then there is the stress for your staff that reduces their efficiency, the risks of flood or fire killing off the centralised business. The risks and costs associated with things like sickness getting into the office and cleaning out whole teams at a time not to mention breakins. Your staff will be less fit, mire stressed, unable to look after family or take care of trivial things like water leaks or parcels arriving from the office. Working from home I can look after family, pets, take the dog for a walk, go to the sports club and have a hobby during the 3 hours I used to have to spend I traffic jams. Cuts the risk of being killed in an accident or from a heart attack
The distance from homes to factories began when planners decided separation meant less pollution for people's homes. The stupidity carried on with offices that cause no pollution and finally with cramming all shops into another specialist separated area. These decisions were mistakes. Hybrid working is also a mistake. Factories occur because the automation of things like weaving and spinning required large power sources which weren't possible in people's homes. Today even that is now possible and with the internet and small computers there is no reason on earth to congregate IT workers into factories like some sort of Victorian slave driving mill owner
Nothing we have found developing comms and control software for inside autonomous vehicles has to be done in an office.
When I worked on industrial machines and lathes I built physical versions of the machines that were small enough for my office at home.
Remote desktop makes it even easier.
A friend of mine regularly works on offshore marine applications as far off as the southern Ocean from a landlocked room in West Suffolk.
The savings for companies in zero office space, zero receptionist and security, in zero heating, air con, parking are immense. The saving in road building, carpark space and environmental damage are beyond imagination.
You do, you have a choice of who you work for. There is nothing that we in IT do that can't be done from home, nothing. FFKS we even have remote controllable power supplies on our rigs. If we had for some bizarre reason a need to physically move cables we would get a robot arm. The team work on full size lorries and busses, remotely
I don't understand people's issues here, my team work using mob programming, we do this remotely (literally thousands of miles apart) using screensharing conference calling (indeed sometimes even taking over a mouse on the other desktop) along with remote desk top onto a test rig and of course ci with test and auto code analysis. We do this for the whole working day. It is not stressful and in over a year no one was late from broken trains or traffic jams, in fact we had no sick days from catching other people's sicknesses in the train or office. And for those who are muttering about web pages, no, the team do embedded comms and control for autonomous lorries
Yes, the coughs, colds, arguments over the office temperature, the second rate food at the wrong time etc. Once the lock down is over instead of standing on an overpriced train or sitting burning petrol in a pointless traffic jam try your local sports clubs, pub, getting a dog and walking it. Most IT offices are stuffed to the gills with pasty faced boys with terrible dress sense, smelly feet and zero social skills, if you are very lucky there is a pretty gal on reception but generally that's not the case either. Freed from the need to get into the London or Cambridge office I can even choose somewhere nice and affordable to live.
My resignation would be in. We have proved we can work without sitting for hours polluting the planet, killing ourselves inhaling vehicle fumes, missing out on daylight (many companies have inside offices with no natural light at all) catching coughs,, infections and other nasties from colleagues and putting up with crap food and drinks. I am not going back to that even if it means dropping from the it rat race entirely and becoming a farm labourer. We dont need to put up with the crap for a while but dinosaur who can't think better than a Victorian slave driver
First, I don't want to be trying to meet a deadline when my machine decides to close all my apps and spend an hour buggering around with updates because a bonehead who doesn't know what I am doing decides I need it. By all means tell me one is there and what it adds but leave the timing to me.
Second, can we please dump whatever languages you are programming and move to one that means I don't need an array of crays just to run a notepad app?
Third stop taking away my apps or hiding them, I want notepad and paint for some small tasks compared to the elaphantine alternatives these old apps are still useful.
Finally I don't need the menus rearranged, Windows blurred, tiles, and fancy zooming in, I want speed. In 1985 you could start a computer from cold in seconds and stop it by the power switch immediately, today's windows takes so many weeks to get to operating speed the next bloody update fucks it over again, I suspect an over reliance on c sharp and or modern c++ is to blame
Yet more UK tax payers money sent abroad to foreign big boy companies employing eastern European or Bangalore workers. No investment in skills for Brits by the British government so wait for the comments about there being a lack of skilled workers. If you don't sow any seed you will have no crop to reap. Jobs in UK IT pay less well than cleaning the toilets in McDonald's so why are commentators surprised when no one trains? The are paid so badly because one giant customer - the UK public sector - ignores any company that's not huge foreign and providing fat piles of shares
I ha e used many languages (even ratfor and Cobol) in my time but I still like to use c and proper c arrays and function pointers etc etc etc none of which gets past clang which seems to think I am a 10 year old who needs to use the latest stupidity coming from modern c++ which will render the code unintelligible and slow
I do c and c++ but I am at least honest enough to admit both are crap for gui heavy windoze programming, vb is perfect for that. I am not some sort of language snob, computers, operating systems and languages are just tools to help get a job done, no more and no less. I don't care if the spanner I use on my car is built by X or Y or out of this or that, if it fits and is tough enough to turn the nut then it's the spanner for the job
Oddly the Germans export despite paying their engineers and workers far better than our brainless tight wad bosses pay us. This leads the way for the workers having pride in what they produce and buying German themselves. Their government is also supportive buying exclusively German with German tax payers money. This all leads to German companies having a sales base to say for development and marketing. Frankly it's not difficult to see or understand, and once upon a time the British had pride in themselves and their work and developed, expanded and invested. Now the bosses outsource to China despite its horrendous use of slave labour and threats to neighbours, they invest more in their arises and bonuses than they do their products and pay as little as they can get away with then wonder why the workers left here don't give a damn anymore than the Chinese do
If not designed and built here from UK sourced materials it will be a British tax payer funded advert for another country and a further. Blow to UK manufacturing. How can we sell jags when Blair was buying BMWs for prime ministerial cars or sell ships when all the Royal navies supply ships were built in Korea. It beggars belief that the civil service don't understand the damage done by these decisions, in fact as most are still educated by the universities that produced Blunt and his chums I can only believe civil servants are working (probably for free) for the KGB. They certainly wreck UK industry. When was the last time your police or council bought British instead of German, French or even Italian? Decades, what does this free advertising do.... Screws the tax payers who fund it!
With ir35 working inside it provides all the costs and none of the benefit of freelancing so only a mug, a stupid blithering idiot of a mug would take on the job. This means either companies are happy to scratch and find people so hopeless they can't get a real job or they will have to take a contractor from a foreign source. This means skills are lost, opportunities for growth missed and the demise of the whole industry. Ir 35 is a Thatcher scale fuck up
Once upon a time the army had a separate network which would have avoided this, I guess a bean counter thought they would save the mod money by having its personnel killed off instead of paying pensions.
Second there is no reason on earth why the whole army needs to see every promotion in the army so the decision to publish it was stupid, probably driven by some left wing political correctness bull shit
Sadly theres not many choices.
a) Stop storing so many secrets on servers that are open to the whole company. This means that any attack can get to less information.
b) Stop storing so much data - do you REALLY need to store the inside leg measurement of someone who just wants to contact your customer service or apply for a job? If I wanted a bloody account on your server to apply for a job then you should not employ me as I am evidently stupid. What you should do is open up a route for me to submit a CV for a job direct to the person responsible.
c) Switch off known and obvious vulnerabilities - you dont need macros enabled to view a word document.
d) Compartmentalize - its what the terrorist guys do, its what the resistance in France did, in fact it goes back long before that - if people in the office in Vancouver dont have access to information that is only relevant to the guys in London then they cant lose it and cant have it locked.
e) Sort out backups. Yes I understand that some of these attacks manage to set themselves up so your standard copying the files to another disk doesnt help because they too are somehow actually encrypted - so find a route to backing it up into a different file format that you write fresh - e.g. print it to a text file or some such - and then you can just read the text file back into the database - yes it IS slow but hell, it isnt as bad as paying billions.
In order for any of the above to work you need managers that understand IT, you need to pay engineers enough money they actually give a shit about the company. Basing wages in London on what you might be get away with paying an Outer Mongolian goatherd isnt going to get you the people with the skills you need or the enthusiasm to cover your arse.
Cloud... well, easy enough sounding but honestly your data, your company, everything reliant on someone else - a corporation whose aim is to make money. HOW the HELL is it CHEAPER for someone else to host the servers, pay the electric bills, maintain it AND make a profit than it is to do it yourself? The last cost - the profit - is the part that they charge you more than you would have to pay to do it yourself.
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