
Post appears - hurrah!
Thanks for approving my post several hours after I posted, at the same time as attacking it - but by then I'd gone out to play. Next time we can have a real-time chat?
I don't think there's much doubt that a good Clause 17 reform in the Lords would have stuck, as the Tories would have probably played ball if it made any sense - but that's not to say the Clause 43 folks didn't do a much better lobbying job. Frankly, I'm with Austin Mitchell on this one, a plague on everybody's houses.