RE: Meaner Philips in disguise
"Matt, i'd never have thought you'd be an apologist for Israel too...." So, being aware of a few historical facts (which I note you don't bother to try rebutting) makes me an "apologist"? I suppose it's just people that have fews that show up your ignorance that get labelled as "apologists", right?
"......but almost laughable that it's the Palestinians that won't negotiate...." Netanyahu has offered talks to Abbas many times, it is Fatah that has refused, that is a simple fact. Try doing some background reading before jumping on whatever is the fashionable political bandwagon of the moment. Indeed, Netanyahu actually ordered a six month halt on settlement building in a previous attempt to get Abbas to the table, and Fatah refused. Netanyahu has made the same offer again this week, and again it has been refused. The Obumbler has been beating his head against the Fatah wall for two years now in an attempt to get them to the table, all without success. Please do explain how that is "laughable" as it seem quite tragic to me.
"....The jewish settlers are nutters just like Hamas...." And I suppose you made an in-depth study of the issues, there, right? Yeah, right! The big difference is that when there is an attack on the Fakeistinians it is investigated by the Israelis and, if it proves to have been committed by settlers, they are arrested and tried. Here is just one example http://www.israel-palestinenews.org/2010/11/israeli-settler-convicted-of-kidnapping.html. On the other hand, when Fakeistinians of any political group attack Israelis it is lauded as an heroic act. As just one example, the PA recently named a square after terrorist Dalal Mughrabi, whose "heroic act" was being part of a 1978 Fatah attack that killed 38 civillians (including 13 kids) and an unarmed American nature photographer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastal_Road_massacre). Hilariously, the naming of the square coincided with the 2010 visit of Joe Biden, when the media got in a frenzy over the announcement that the Jerusalem authority was processing a permission to build some houses in East Jerusalem, which was somehow much more of a horrific incitement than naming a square after a childmurderer. But I'm betting your skimreading of history missed out on the whole Mughrabi episode too.
"....They have a god given right to live in occupied land cos some dusty old book promised it...." Sorry, do you mean the Muslims?
"....don't see them negotiating any time soon...." There will be negotiations when Fatah accepts the offer of talks already made many times by the Israelis. Indeed, waaay back when Bill Clinton was prez, the Israelis (Ehud Barak) made an offer that was 95% of the West Bank plus bits of current Israel and safe passage routes to link to Gaza, plus limited right of return, yet Arafat prefered to walk away from the table and start the Intifada. Political commentators were astounded that Arafat turned down such a genearous offer, indeed he didn't even attempt to negotiate, he just returned to violence.
"....Stick to trolling about HP...." I suggest you stick to reading IndyMedia, as facts seem to just upset you.