* Posts by Richard Jones 1

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Xiaomi and Samsung go head to head with new phones in bargain-basement 5G battle

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If there was some expectation that the phone might last long enough to be usable should 5G service ever become available at a price that does not require a mortgage, there might be a point in replacing my old Motorola-by-Lenovo phone. Samsung's offering might not be built in China which would be a small plus point for me, but a 24 month life expectancy for updates, no, thank you. I will stick with the crap Motorola which is already out of OS updates and just not put anything important on its increasingly slow frame.

Pass that Brit guy with the right-hand drive: UK looking into legalising automated lane-keeping systems by 2021

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Lane Management Warning Systems Are Not Very Good

I have turned mine off as our narrow country lanes have few proper lane markings but an array of different patches and the beeping is driving me nuts as the surface keeps changing.

Feds seize 'largest ever' haul of crypto-dosh from terrorists – including coins from 'fake' pandemic mask web store

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Joke

Send The Money To the USPS

Due to actions of the terrorist in chief, the USPS is a victim of terrorism at the moment, perhaps they should get the funds?

NHS tests COVID-19 contact-tracing app that may actually work properly – EU neighbors lent a helping hand

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Re: "Talk of a second wave is nonsense"

I am quite enjoying the lack of competition to go out and about for no real reason. Fuel is saved, overall costs are reduced, I guess it is isolation already, it suits me fine. As for this app, one that may or may not work, may not know the difference between 2 cm, 2 metres or maybe 2 km and might not install on my 3-year-old phone. In a short phrase, no.

Publishers signed up to Apple's premium News may be less than 'appy to discover the iGiant snatching readers

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Re: The Apple New App

Do not use apple? Is that not the real choice after all?

Pen Test Partners: Boeing 747s receive critical software updates over 3.5" floppy disks

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Re: Honestly..

It could have been worse, some systems from about that time used punched tape or stacks of punched cards. Woe betide anyone who dropped the tape or cards scrambling their order, tore the tape or got either one wet. Even worse, loaded it the wrong way and chewed it up completely. Yes, it was across the water from where I lived, but I knew they did several of the punched tape sins while a system was down and out for a long outage,

Apple's at it again: Things go pear-shaped for meal planner app after iGiant opposes logo

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Joke

@AC, you made a dangerous assumption. The US trademark body is not as bright as a moron in a hurry, while they comprise sub-optimal morons they are never in a hurry, since they are part of the US government and 'led' by the moron in chief, the often termed the so-called president, 'POTUS'.

You think the UK coronavirus outbreak was bad? Just wait till winter: Study shows test-and-trace system is failing

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Re: But... but...

Not a ringing endorsement for limited and functionality on an Apple (and only sometimes). Long ago I lost interest in such unreliable silo projects. The project became a point scoring contest, unable to do anything useful. Is the Apple app still not knowing the difference between someone who is within a metre and someone who is 10 metres away? Since it only works on Apple products, should I care? I know there is another limited product for Android. It also has limitations on the age of supported devices.

I'll pass and avoid all crowd situations.

China requires gamers to reveal real names and map them to frag-tastic IDs

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Re: So I suppose ...

Oh dear, I thought that the leader of the CCP was big enough anyway?

(Isn't Pooh-bear on the banned list anyway?).

EU tries to get serious on cybercrime with first sanctions against Wannacry, NotPetya, CloudHopper crews

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Looks Like Too Little Far Too Late

Not only have the horses bolted, they lived their lives and became someone's lunch before this action was taken.

AI assistants work perfectly in the UK – unless you're from Cardiff, Glasgow, Liverpool, Birmingham, Belfast...

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Voice Calling on an Andriod Phone Anybody?

Frankly, do not bother with voice access things ever. Nokia had it working back in about 2008, Android/Google still cannot recognise a thing that is said to it in 2020.

Is non-operative voice features a design feature?

Someone made an AI that predicted gender from email addresses, usernames. It went about as well as expected

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Was There Ever A Point?

If I want someone to do a job, (I am currently seeking to get several tasks done), that is what I need. I would not care if they were a bright green Martian (though I realise the neighbours might worry), but so what, as long as the job was done correctly.

If I am looking to buy something, it might be for me, my wife, one of my daughters, or grandchildren, or even some other relation, what I need are suitable examples of what I want, not some second rate pseudo intelligence pointing me another way. However, if I randomly think I want to buy something but I do not know what or why, then perhaps I should stop and think a bit more about what I am doing.

In short, it was a dumb, stupid pandering to silliness idea in the first place.

Modem life is rubbish: RootMetrics 5G stats show EE has widest UK coverage, but Three is the speed demon

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Reliable 4g might have been nice

I doubt I will ever be in a position to make a useful comment on 5G. It appears an unlikely option for the foreseeable future due to the poor state of mobile service at home. The prices I saw suggest it is for others anyway. I will stick with voice and text, Wi-Fi is an option when at home when the machine updates itself. A 23 inch screened PC is a far superior experience. I am now concerned at how much IPv6 might disrupt wired service, given the situation with 5G

After banning Chinese comms bogeyman, UK asks: Huawei in this mess? It was a failure of capitalism, MPs told

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Devided Opinions Anyone

Not for nothing did the UK company I worked for have a 'mixed' opinion of Nortel. My area referred to them as the granny shifters who would sell you their granny if they could make a buck, but they generally had nothing useful to deliver. Even offering to sell items that they would buy in from other makers, (who told us they had no interest in making a loss to produce those devices). Other parts of the company loved their older kit, though Nortel did not always know how to make it all work reliably in field situations. GEC/ Marconi was not respected, often referred to as a bunch of old has-beens by one group. I thought that some of their offerings might have had more to them than they were given credit.

Motorola Moto G 5G Plus: It won't blow your mind, but at £300 we're struggling to find much to grumble about

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Re: Thats a fairly epic price for this spec...

But, Moto is a Chinese brand; is it not part of Lenovo?

Worldpay stops turning in the UK, leaving trail of thoroughly miffed retailers and customers

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Testing

Let's see, testing budget less than a tea club funds, OK customers can be testers for a day, all costs to them and their unfortunates, sorry customers. Net cost to us zero. Good, the tea club can live another day.

Shame the same cannot be said of the cowboys ruining, not running the show who earned their P45s but may now miss out on their rewards.

I was not popular in test schedule meetings when I tried to slip in a few real word uses and insist that tests were passed. During testing was when the tin cans rattled, but customer service was spared the SNAFU.

Seven 'no log' VPN providers accused of leaking – yup, you guessed it – 1.2TB of user logs onto the internet

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Re: Merriam-Webster

You may have to get round their protector first and then outlive their thug masters' 'protectors'.

AMD fans forced to sit out latest Windows 10 Insiders build due to 'bug impacting overall usability of these PCs'

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Not The Only Issue

Three of my PCs are not even offered 2004, due to unspecified 'issues'. One PC is an almost exact copy of the machine that did get 2004 a month ago, it was offered the package, but a day or so later it was no longer on offer but waiting to be fixed, whatever.

However, the 'advances' appear less than interesting, that I wondered why they even bother to release it all. Maybe it should be an options pack, for those who might find it has something of value

With a wave of Nokia's wand, behold as your 4G network magically becomes... 5G

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Re: What G ?

While I agree that the 'G' does not matter, the lack of working service at my location does affect me. If I want service within my 4 walls it has to be wired as radio currently provides no solution. If the Nokia offers a way forward, then bring it on at a price that will come in lower than the present wired service. However, I doubt that it will reach ether the coverage, or price point that many will crave Current 5G suggestions are strictly for others to get excited about.

UK smacks Huawei with banhammer: Buying firm's 5G gear illegal from year's end, mobile networks ordered to rip out all next-gen kit by 2027

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Fairly Happy

I am happy not to have the criminal CCP providing or tapping off my service. Though I should point out that at the moment mobile service is so ropey that callers foolish enough to call the mobile have to be told to call the landline. I guess nothing much will change on that front and that nothing was really expected to change either. I did see the 5G forecast charges, so no, nothing will change for me least of all that market segment.

At least Wi-Fi allows mobile data, though I seriously prefer a 23-inch screen, over a postage stamp on the mobile. Still, Wi-Fi does allow the mobile to update, frequently.

Rip and replace is such a long Huawei to go, UK telcos plead, citing 'blackouts' and 'billion pound' costs: Are Vodafone and BT playing 'Project Fear'?

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Re: > we voted for brexit

@ Glen 1 for some of us, even a crappy wet string ADSL connection is better than a 'No Service' mobile non-connection. The wet string connection is shared between at least 15 wired devices connected behind a NAT router with the 'No service' mobile radio link dealing with two mobiles that mainly work tethered to the wet string via Wi-Fi rather than the 'No service' mobile network.

Frankly, a change, any change, could only be positive for some of us.

Another anti-immigrant rant goes viral in America – and this time it's by a British, er, immigrant tech CEO

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Re: adults pass it down to the children

Likewise, I am in the area without light over the body term that could be termed racist.

I do remember my welcome to a Middle East where I noted that a foreman was truck driving vice the scheduled rest-day driver. He said the driver had a few days off, compassionate leave as his wife burned herself to death. Forget race, I was shocked, however, it soon became worse. I offered my shocked idea of it being terrible. The foreman said not to worry she was only the forth wife, then describing her in colour-related terms.

She came from a country whose nationals were despised by residents of his Middle East country. Old Gulf hands will know what I mean by that.

So yes, every race and ethnicity has its xenophobic traits, only some get modified over time.

In this case I guess the person in question was also dyslexic and misspelled his consulting company, perhaps he meant SolidHate?

When Facebook says you're not a good 'culture fit', it means you're not White or Asian enough – complaint

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Crap Book, Crap Company

@Mark192 Perhaps they did not put it on bumbook oops sorry Facebook as Mark Z expected them to do.

Hats off to the brave 7%ers who dived into the Windows 10 May 2020 Update within a month of release

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One Out Of Four

So far, only one PC has been offered and accepted the new version. I cannot say it has anything to offer me. Another machine with an almost identical build is still waiting for the offer. Two others are pending possibly for their own good reasons. So far I have to say it is not worth the hype. A bit like Starmer and lawyers in general, loads of ballyhoo but not a lot of point.

One year ago, Apple promised breakthrough features to help iPhone, iPad, Mac owners with disabilities. It failed them

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Nokia had basic voice calling in 2007

Since that time things have gone downhill. Apple devices are of no appeal and I have never wanted one, but no one else has devices that can reliably operate in voice control mode. I am not disabled, though there are times when I really need voice control, such as after hand surgery, or when my hands are involved with such as dog walking, and other two-handed activities. I use a 4-year-old Android phone. Voice searching is only good for laughing at the stupid suggestions it comes up with when I want to call home. I suspect that someone, somewhere, possibly in a 'clean', noise free chamber has managed to get all these wonderful toys to work. In the outside world with noise, accents, imperfect acoustics and so on they are crap. Nokia had a good speaker dependant voice calling in the 2000s, others added thrills and spills, making voice no longer worth consideration for anyone. I have sympathy for those who are forced to use voice management full time. Post-operative experiences show their lives must be far more restricted than well-thought-out and implemented technology should allow. My problems affected me in the short term, theirs are life-long.

China's internet watchdog freezes 10 too-trashy online video services before they undermine socialism

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Re: on the other hand..

Wow, there is danger there, bright, young, with a mind and a real presence, so a danger to the closed mind end of society wherever they are from. The same old, same old; recycling scrap in new products is fine, recycling tired old ideas into the same old tired attitudes is not.

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No Wonder

It sounded more fun that the usual CCP platform of old men in tired old clothes.

Paging technology providers: £3m is on the table to replace archaic NHS comms network

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Back in Time Technology Rides Again

Pagers, another shuffle down memory lane, I did not work for the NHS so my use was long, long ago. They had one advantage, not always being personal devices they used to be given to the on-call person of the moment. Batteries also lasted a long time as I remember, not just half a day.

Twitter, Reddit and pals super unhappy US visa hopefuls have to declare their online handles to Uncle Sam

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I always though it was one of those lovely 'trick' questions. They if they can show some error or lie, they have got you fair and square. Watch out for:

'Such as XXX, TTT, YYY, or any other similar entity.'

Answer No and even if it was only Granny's family pictures, they have got you on a lie and nothing can stop the sky falling.

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Re: Right. Never going there again.

You are doing a bit better than me, I last visited in the early 1990s for work purposes. I'm retired now and apart from not wanting to go back given what it has become under the so-called president, health insurance would be far too much of a financial challenge, even without the damned PRC's coronavirus.

So you really didn't touch the settings at all, huh? Well, this print-out from my secret backup says otherwise

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Re: May I recommend rsyslog?

Back in the 1980s we had a number of items that ran outputs 24/7 going to printers. They were 'interesting' rather than ground shaking reports but their value was increased when the data could be assessed and analysed over a period of time. I captured the output to a number of PCs. A howl of protest resulted suggesting that the 'screens on the PCs would burn out too quickly'. A quick back of the envelope job suggested that the costs of paper ran to a free screen every 5 ~6 weeks and I thought that they might just last a bit longer than that. More to the point the data could at last be machine accessed and analysed revealing many previous missed aspects of the reporting machines' operation. In one case a particular component was failing (due to the loss of vacuum in a particular 'supposed to be sealed device'). The overnight data suggested an exponential failure rate that was in danger of degrading daytime performance. That event that would have far outweighed the costs of any paper, PCs or screens.

BoJo buckles: UK govt to cut Huawei 5G kit use 'to zero by 2023' after pressure from Tory MPs, Uncle Sam

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Re: So...

There is no accounting for the brain-dead stupid lot who think (or perhaps cannot think at all) a virus comes out of radios. So they go round threatening cable layers and setting fire to any masts they can find, just to prove how stupid they are.

I am happy never to buy any more Chinese junk until they have cleaned up their foul act; it is called justice.

We won't CU later: New Ofcom broadband proposals mull killing off old copper network

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Re: Spare a copper?

@ Cleaverhouse, while the mobile works outside my house, if I get a call on the hopeless thing, the first thing I have to say is please call the landline.

On the second (landline call) call, the callers says, 'Oh that is much better' and the calls continues.

Sadly, radio is not reliable, it will fail during a problem, e.g. a doctor call. We have been there, done that, got the tee shirt.

What's worse than an annoying internet filter? How about one with a pre-auth remote-command execution hole and there's no patch?

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Re: It wouldn't make the slightest difference.

@ Prst. V.Jeltz, I think you mean a damp squib, a sqib is a sort of firework that should go bang, however, when damp it fails to do anything.

Cisco UCS servers slugged by 'This SSD will self-destruct in 40,000 hours' firmware farrago

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Re: Kind of Hertz

I have a single-hole tap with separate flow managers. They operate either as singletons or together to produce a mixed flow. Other sinks also allow either hot, cold or mixed with one handle and no stupid twirling of the controls.

I agree that the isolation valves are worth their weight in anything negotiable for a whole range of reasons. The type of mixer taps you wrote about were no doubt specified as they 'looked good' but were utter crap for the users to 'enjoy'

Baby, I swear it's déjà vu: TalkTalk customers unable to opt out of ISP's ad-jacking DNS – just like six years ago

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Waiting For Tal-Talk

Make sure you have a good supply of books, coffee, and all other refreshment facilities before locking into a wait position for Talk-Talk to come back. Probably your message will take till after the Coronavirus is a distant memory to get through. It is perhaps a shame they do not really know how to run the technical side of the business. Though the rest has not always been that hot either!

Vodafone chief speaks out after 5G conspiracy nuts torch phone mast serving Nightingale Hospital in Brum

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Mother of Your Children

Is something as warped as that seen as a fit and proper person to clean toilet bowls, let alone look after any living thing?

Stop us if you've heard this before: Boeing's working on 737 Max software fixes for autopilot, stabilization bugs

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@ Giovani Tapinini

Or one that has such a love affair with the ground that it gets lonely when not in very intimate contact?

Capita inks deal with NHS to 'bring back staff': Workers get an hour of training to recruit and vet retired doctors, nurses

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@Hans 1, just how would anyone get 'simply drafted'? Some retirees will have died or moved onto other addresses, lost their skill or interest. Who would do the drafting, Oh I know we could use nurses and doctors from the NHS as they would know the back ground of those they were trying to draft back in so no need for any messy vetting. Never mind patient care.

Hello, support? What do I click if I want some cash?

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Re: Barclays don't dogfood their IT

I guess that it must be one of those wonderful UK banks that 18 months after the due date still cannot provide confirmation of payee? Until they put their house in order they cannot complain about anyone else's security practices.

Off colour banking in the UK is only for the very strong-willed and hearted.

Huawei to the danger zone: Now Uncle Sam slaps it with 16 charges of racketeering, fraud, money laundering, theft of robot arm and source code

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Re: Since the 1990s...

We ended up banning one of the staff from MCI (USA) for the same fraud efforts back in the 1980s. He went round questioning staff and turning papers over when the staff were not there. We were not impressed.

Things I learned from Y2K (pt 87): How to swap a mainframe for Microsoft Access

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Re: dBase III?

I used Quick Basic to capture stream data and format it into DBase data base files. Then Clipper to assemble that into a stream of activity reports back in the days before integrated Office suites. In some cases Lotus 123 was invoked, only to draw graphs, which then loaded word-processing for automatically written letters to be sent to international correspondents. Programs were loaded, used and dropped when down returning control to the main program. This was all back in the times of DOS 3 or thereabouts. In fact some PCs were used to take live data from more than one serial port source, process each stream into reports and send them on their merry way to different operational areas. One was a staffing report that analysed work demands and produced draft 24 hour staffing schemes. You could do a lot of work with a 8088 PC working in 640k of memory.

Downloading accounts data out of the IBM mainframe reformatting it and auto-loading it into online customer service systems was fun and far faster than a two person manual team achieved. They took 2 weeks and made errors, the machine brought that down to just over two hours, reporting every odd event it found. Those old systems managed what felt like miracles at the time. Of course, they look like rubbish now.

There are already Chinese components in your pocket – so why fret about 5G gear?

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The history of UK telecommunications equipment makers s is a well known history of missed chances and following blind avenues. Our equipment was built to GPO standards that largely if not totally ignored the rest of the world's domestic needs. While the standards were robust, they were rearward looking. GEC built up a handsome cash pile from their various enterprises under Weinstock, but perhaps became over concerned at not spending anything. Later cash was splashed about but not to any great benefit and, when it was gone there was not a lot to play with or play for. Plessey joined with GEC in 1988 but it was essentially two corpses aiming for a joint funeral, which then happened after their name change to Marconi. Attempts to purchase UK equipment for use in overseas locations was not a success and when the need moved onto more complex and future facing kit the field was rapidly reducing. For a while the Japanese offered good value, generally reliable kit, but they too were left behind. Ericsson filled the gap, Nokia's hardware division also offered useful kit but the new runners from the Far East, China and Korea were also there. Nortel were once in the market, but marketing wagged the dog rather than producing market leading capabilities they produced unbelievable stories and proposals that suggested they had not read the specifications. Where they had read them, they objected to some deliverables. That was not what most customers wanted to hear. Since the greatest proportion of 5G patents are now held by Chinese companies it is no surprise they have a leading position, demonstrating the presence of high quality brain power coupled with advanced, low cost manufacturing, no doubt in part paid for by profits from all those Chinese made mobiles, such as iPhones and computer parts and idiotic IOT crap that the rest of the world laps up.

You're not Boeing to believe this: Yet another show-stopping software bug found in ill-fated 737 Max airplanes

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Re: Isn't THIS why we've got to teach 2nd-graders how to "code", rather than how to think?

@Muscleguy, I am unable to understand the thoughts of your down voter, but they have given no idea of what they were thinking. If someone cannot think enough to understand what they are working on, then the prospect of a solution is reduced possibly to zero. To be able to think a problem through, you need the information pertaining to the problem. The systems analysts should have done the analysis and that they must provide an accurate definition of the problems to be resolved. Safety critical products are in one sense the most challenging, but should all code not be as good as possible? That does take educated, critical thinkers who see and remove as many problems as possible before the systems reach integration and testing. Acceptance testing can never be replaced by best guess previous stages, it is an essential final phase and test plans should ideally combine both critical thinkers and where practical, those with a desire to find faults via intent and those with no clue as to how the final product should work. The latter test the fail-safe, (or not) capabilities of the product.

Microsoft's on Edge and you could be, too: Chromium-based browser exits beta – with teething problems

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Re: I could also

To date, I thought that Edge was the highway to hell! It was hard go get it to go anywhere else except on edge, was that how it gained its name?

UK data watchdog kicks £280m British Airways and Marriott GDPR fines into legal long grass

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Re: What's the point?

ICO have a mailing list, perhaps some providing information about the sloppy ways of BA and that Marriott, and advice to avoid might be wise. Bullying bullies should always be fun.

I am on the ICO mailing list but have already noted that both outfits are to be avoided.

Google scolded for depriving the poor of privacy as Chinese malware bundled on phones for hard-up Americans

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Re: I feel fortunate

I suspect that he was hinting at the effects of the law of unintended consequences. I am not sure how accurately it applies in this case.

The current hoo-ha might encourage a few not to get suckered into buying such phones, though if they are low-rent items, I am not sure what value, if any the makers were hoping to extract from their users. While I carry my mobile with me much of the time, mostly in the house, a string of medical visits and very rare shopping trips along with details of some short dog walks are unlikely to set anyone's world on fire. It is a lower cost item, from a known make, now nearly 4 years old. My use of it for the internet or email is somewhere below minimal and close to zero. I find it a too painful an experience. Perhaps I could muzzle the problems with suitable software, but there are easier ways for me to enjoy life than fighting with a mobile.

We’ve had enough of your beach-blocking shenanigans, California tells stubborn Sun co-founder: Kiss our lawsuit

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Re: He sounds like...

As has been pointed out before cunts are useful. They are the leather sheaths use protect the shaped sharpening stone, (I believe called the prick) used to sharpen harvesting equipment.

In no known sense was the prat to be called useful.

Blame of thrones: Those viral vids of PC monitors going blank when people stand up? Static electricity from chairs

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Re: For extra fun ...

I had heard of such problems in the past, but less so recently. Then I suspected that it was down to a complex mix of variables involving a bit of better engineering to be more tolerant, changes of dress styles, perhaps through fashions and perhaps even of personal traits. Once some stories started to circulate everything was put down to e.g. clothing or some such, even though in some memorable cases it was down to faulty fixing of flooring. Above or below a certain weight the floor flexed pinching or releasing cables and so on. The chair issue is very much more specific, though once more I do wonder how the conductivity of clothings, the weight of the user and the way in different people move on and off chairs affects the issue. I am very aware that being (a) heavier than I desire to be and a darned sight more awkward due to spinal issues, my 'technique' or lack of same would involve very different moves than someone lighter and more agile who could just spring off.

As a footnote, while doing factory acceptance testing in about 1980, during the first week I only had to look at the equipment to produce a system failure, later as the bugs were removed I had to approach closer to 'apparently achieve' the same effect. In fact, the problems were caused by faulty punched cards used to program the device.

A Notepad nightmare leaves sysadmin with something totally unprintable

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Re: He'd lost several months of work

A slightly different but still cautionary tale. Back in the 1980s in one semi secured area I ran a number of small PCs acting as terminals that collected volumes of process data, reducing it down to key aspects before it this was then aggregated by a 286 based device. Several programs were chained together allowing the machine to draw graphs, write letters embedding the graphs and prepared them for dispatch to international carriers in many countries. A delightfully automatic system that was best left with no human intervention. It was all housed in a walled off area. Then a clerk wanted to complete some work using Lotus 123 which was one of the chained programs on the 286 machine. Seizing his chance he crept in a clutching his floppy disk of data and started up Lotus. A bad move for him; as he existed Lotus it was set up to dump some very specific records to the floppy disk, neatly removing his several months of work and data before replacing it with the latest production run results.

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