Re: Watch Out USA...
Mutated Anthrax... For Duck huntin'
414 posts • joined 7 Aug 2009
There is a few moving to Amazon Coretto as well, but as thats based on OpenJDK, it probably adds up to the same thing.
We've only encountered one issue so far, and thats one app that uses JavaFX. Were just going to re-write it as what it does is pretty simple. Everything else just.. works...
Even better when your ticket goes around the houses and finally gets sent back to you with a message "Fix this pls..."
That and its so b*ddy slow, and since the last update, it seems when you update one of your tickets, it seems to select a random ticket to return to, (Which has messed me up when i wasnt paying attention)
I remember having this conversation with a HR person as there more or less in the same boat.
A good IT function (Or HR function), that gets stuff done, runs smoothly and tends not to get noticed.
It only when things to to sh*t that people start noticing you.
But by then its too late as its usually been caused by management wondring what we need all these expensive nerds around for anyway, and the best ones have already been pushed out.
I work at a publishing firm, Years ago, pre-ubiquitus-internet, we had a remote working setup, which was basically a program the editors could enter their data in, comments, annotations, ect, and once a week they would come into work (Or post the disks) and upload it all into the main system.
We had a problem with one particular user who was saying her (company supplied) system was constantly crashing, so as i was relatively local and involved in writing this app, i was asked by IT to pop over than figure out what was going on.
Once i got there and took it apart, everything was covered in a really thick tar. The buildup was so thick it was actually acting an an insulator on the CPU heatsink. Seems she and her other half smoked about 40 a day each and the poor computer having had this punishment for about 2 years had just had enough. So i took it away (After wrapping it and the keyboard in a Tarp), and after discussions with the IT guys in the car park, we decided we didnt want it anywere near the building, pulled the HD and binned it.
She was given a new PC with strict instructions not to smoke in the same room as it...
There about to be hammered by multiple right to repair bills. They are doing this to try to get the legislatures to soften them.
Not certain it will work, because the the people who are really pushing for this are the Farmers against companies like John Deere. Legislators Ignoring all those loud nerds is pretty much a given at the moment, but you going against the farmers looses you elections in many US states.
I suspect they will still manage to blame Facebook and Google somehow.
I would be surprised of Oracle get a look in. There cloud offering is generally considered to be a bag of poo run by a company that have a bad habit of running audits when they are bored solely to piss off CIO's.
I would have expected the competition to be between Microsoft and Amazon, same as it usually is for big cloud contracts. Mainly because those companies have the reputation and skills.
I dont know about IBM's offering.
I can understand why they consider single vendor a good idea in this case, even if its not usually though. The weakest part of any infrastructure is the edge where it joins to other foreign infrastructure, and i can understand them wanting to keep that to a minimum.
Yeah, i did that as well on our Uni vax. Thaught i was so clever at the time. (Obviously I wasnt).
Fotunately (for me), i didnt actually deploy it. I suspect that would have been last-straw territory.
I think i was on a list of troublemakers, as i was smart enough to cause problems, but not smart enough to be any good at it, and the Vax Sysasmin at BIHE really knew his stuff.
Other things i managed was writing scripts with busy-wait loops (inadvertently), doing strange things with directories, and logging on someone who was banned for doing nothing but playing MUDs all day as well as lots of things i dont want to admit.
Saying that, i did teach myself C and C++ and write a chess program in DCL on that box as well.
Frankly, looking back at it, as i wasnt even a computer science student (Electronic Engineering), i was suprised i wasnt just kicked off it.
Oracle has been loosing ground for years. Its debatable whether at the very top end they are still at the top, but for most normal and havey relational database usages, they have been overtaken in ease of use by pretty much everything else in the market.
Rather than accept this and try to do something innovative about it, they have doubled down on screwing over their existing customers.
Only an idiot would develop a new product using an Oracle back-end.
Depends on the Era. I have a bunch of 720k floppes from my Amiga days in the late 80s and 90s that still work fine. The quality seems to have gone downhill from about there. I personally wouldnt trust any floppies manafactured after about 1995 at all.
My original BBC Elite disk 5.25" floppy still works fine.
Try installing legacy fat client applications on a locked down Windows desktop machine and you will see the uniqueness..
No-one else makes it anything like as difficult to install their database client when you have to install the whole 1.3Gb of dross, most of which you will never use, in a non-standard location. (24 years on, and Oracle *still* havent figured out "Program files"). (Oh, and you cant use program files anyway, because some things in there dont work properly if you have filenames with spaces)
Or the fact its basically impossible to install on a headless server without installing X and all its libraries or VNC,
Or the fact its so uniquely embedded in so many places, people dont dare rip it out despite Oracles "Innovative" and "Unique" pricing structure ...
Frankly yes. Even tho he and the company he runs is basically evil, There both Rank ameturs compared to Larry, Oracle and more importantly, the Oracle money squeezing deparment.
Amazon, for instance, dont send in the auditers every time there looking low on sales targets or you diss them publically, or because their bored.
30 years ago when it was the only serious game in town for medium-large size databases (Other than DB2, which has always seemed to me to be more a way of selling IBM services), they developed this attitude. I've never met anyone who has said that dealing with Oracle has ever been a fun experience.
They are seriously behind of modern technologies, They require loads more DBA support than everything else, especially MariaDB and SQL server both of which just ... work.. , their large object support is a joke, They still havent figured out "Program files" on windows clients yet, which causes issues for locked down client machines, making deployment using most automated tools a pain in the arse, Its expensive and exposes you to random audits when they feel their short of money. Why would you?
Yes, we recently had a brush with Oracle's audit deparment. They didnt find anything wrong, but wouldnt beleve it. (I work for a pretty large international business).
And thus it was handed down from on high that no new projects are to use Oracle databases. (Not that we have been doing anyway)
We've also got to write feasibilty reports for moving all our existing stuff off in a 2 year timeframe.
Its nice in that we've got a couple of MariaDB and NoSQL boxes out of it.
They managed to *really* P*ss off our CTO.
"Who chooses a cloud first then decides later what they want to use? Only idiots. Or MongoDB users"
Or the people paying you money to develop things and have heard about this "cloud" thing and want in. (There are a lot of these)..
I dont know *anyone* who would consider using Oracle for a new project. Even if you can get past the licencing aspect, that Stupid installer needs to be taken out the back and shot, along with the intern who wrote it. (It is ridiculously difficult to install on a headless server, and you have to install unnesseery stuff you will never use again like all the X libraries, and I think its really about Oracle figured out "Program files" on Windows Clients and servers. Its been over 20 years now)
Administration is a pain in the arse, unlike every other modern database. (I remember DB2 comming close, but that was a long time ago)
Its possible at the very highest end, that Oracle may out-perform other databases, but how many people really ever use the full potential of an Oracle installation? Or even a MySQL installation for that matter?
I think these providers miss the point of the Pentagon. Its Not to provide large monolithic companies with a constant revenue stream. (Well unless your BAE systems, Lockheed martin or Nothrop Grumman, in which case all bets are off).
I think Oracle are just feeling the pressure of not being the only game in the field for Large data storage and processing. I sense an detailed Licence Audit comming up.... I think thats how they usually deal with this sort of thing isnt it?
Was this written by VMWare?
No patching? No Malware? Really?
Anyone relying on that will be running Eastern European guest software before they they can say "I've been a total moron and taken a major vendor at their word, hook line and sinker."
Edit: Ah, no WINDOWS patching if your running on Linux. Thats just....
"Someone somewhere has decided to use the preponderance of public opinion and a bunch of expensive lawyers to ruin someone else's life"
GR were the ones who decided to sue, not Perens. It was self inflicted.
As for re-licensing the GPL v2. Most people using Linux dont seem to have an issue with it.
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