Some of these features sound like it's taking ideas from Rust
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Classy move: C++ 20 wins final approval in ISO technical ballot, formal publication expected by end of year
They still don't get it do they?
Nobody is going to port old code to a shiny new framework just because there's a new API - no matter how much nicer it is. That's simply not the reason anybody writes code. And for as long as Windows supports running win32 apps, people will keep win32 code around, and keep writing new apps in it to reach a wider audience than anything new.
There's 25+ years of Win32 code out there in the wild. Half the developers have probably died, retired, or changed career. Half the source code probably no longer exists. Just as with COBOL, there'll be Win32 code out there running that people don't even know about and that probably hasn't been looked at since Y2k was a thing. There'll be code propping up businesses large and small all over the world who's in-house developers and external vendors have long since disappeared.
Microsoft will never be able to rid itself of Win32 by trying to tempt developers to use something new. The only way they'll do it is to put their foot down and stop supporting it whilst making sure there's a clear and definite stable alternative - something that Microsoft are pretty much incapable of.
I really think that Microsoft need to accept the fact that they're a 'boring' business software vendor - not a hip and trendy brand. They got the corporate world hooked on Windows, Office and VS etc, and that means they're stuck with them for the long term.
Geneticists throw hands in the air, change gene naming rules to finally stop Microsoft Excel eating their data
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How bad is Catalina? It's almost Apple Maps bad: MacOS 10.15 pushes Cupertino's low bar for code quality lower still
Re: Divide and rule
That's rarely how it works though. It's more likely like this:
School: What's the name? And how much does it cost?
Me: The GIMP and it's free
School: free? hmm what's wrong with it? and it's called _what_? All sounds a bit amateur.. we'll stick with our Adobe corporate licensing
Welcome to the sunlit uplands of HTTP/2, where a naughty request can send Microsoft's IIS into a spin
Re: sqlite is the most popular database
It's definitely available everywhere, but it's not a server, and therefore has completely different usage cases. You wouldn't use it to power a busy multi-user system, just as you wouldn't stuff a copy of Oracle into a set-top box to store some user settings.
When you delete a file on a computer, it generally asks 'are you sure?', so that you can have a think about what you're doing and confirm whether you really want to proceed or not.
Same for when you purchase something.
Same goes for pretty much any decision where there is a lot at stake or may have bad consequences.
But for some reason, brexiters deem it inappropriate to exercise this same level of caution when doing something monumental like leaving the EU. Even though 'leaving the EU' still hasn't been defined. We still don't know what exactly that will entail. Or what the consequences will be. Or what we should do to prepare.
What we *do* know is that all the promises were either lies or fantasy.
We also know that the various Leave campaigns not only broke the law, but were backed by Russian money and deliberately used data harvested from social media to target the victims with emotionally manipulative ads and fake activity.
We also know that nobody in any of the Leave campaigns had any actual plan or idea of what would be involved.
We also know that businesses are already suffering from supply, labour and financial problems just in the negotiation period. Nobody knows how bad it'll get when March comes around and we actually leave. Because still nobody knows what Brexit will be.
We also know that workers and visitors from the EU are avoiding coming here because of uncertainty and because they now see us as a backwards, racist and hostile nation.
The list goes on. and on. and on.
But sure, we definitely shouldn't have an 'are you sure you want to proceed?' second vote. Because 'the will of the people' only mattered that one specific time. Right?
"My experience of the same chip in last year's BlackBerry was that it was fine to start off with but slowed down under strain"
Is it really the processor that's the problem here? Everyone always seems to ignore the quality of the internal storage, which seems more likely to be an issue when it comes to degrading performance over the life of the device
Crowdfunded projects are risky definition, because you're financially backing something, not merely purchasing an item.
But I don't think that's necessarily something to be scared of - just be cautious. And with that in mind, whenever you see a crowdfunded project by a **company**, run away, because it means they're not risking their own money.
Just compare this sorry Vega+ tale to the ZX Spectrum Next. Yes, it's running late, but the first stage of developer boards went out. There's been regular monthly updates from the team which actually detail and show photos of the production process and how it's going. And the team is made up of passionate people who actually care about what they're doing, and are doing it not-for-profit. There's no shareholders and directors siphoning off money and bickering with each other. And the community of backers are actively involved - helping out with documentation, OS and firmware, writing emulators and games for it..
When I built my first PC in 97, NT4 workstation went straight on it. This was because I was an A-level student and MS were doing an offer where you got Win95/NT4wks for ~ £35 I think it was. The dumb thing though was that the Windows 95 license was upgrade only, and my machine had no OS to upgrade, so I went for NT4 instead and it was pretty damned good. Although I did have to throw ram upgrades at it pretty sharpish.
Re: This is a trivial design...
This is being done in a completely unrelated project - The ZX Spectrum Next https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1835143999/zx-spectrum-next which, despite some delays with the case, has already sent out the completed bare boards batch, and the team, which *isn't* a company with shareholders and directors bleeding it dry, is pretty good at engaging with the backers and keeping everyone informed of what's going on. Was also the last device designed by the late Rick Dickonson.
Poor old Microsoft
They spent all those years ruthlessly dominating the corporate desktop, but all along, they desperately wanted to be one of the cool kids.
For a while, they owed the home computing market too, simply because mum and dad knew Windows at work, so knew how to use a PC running Windows at home too. That, and Microsoft made sure they had no other choice.
But they missed the attack from the other end. PCs are old-fashioned and corporate. iOS and Android are the consumer OSs, and the devices they run far exceed the laptops and desktops. For many people, smartpones and tables *are* their primary computer devices and their internet terminals.
A whole new wave of apps have come along for which Windows doesn't really matter any more. Technologies such as Electron and Node mean developers can write cross platform apps without ever having to go near a Windows machine *and* provide a consistent app UI across every platform.
That's not to say that Windows is dead. But Microsoft need to know their place. Windows is still king of the corporate desktop/laptop. And that's where it's strengths are. It still runs ancient obscure bits of corporate code, and still has all the enterprise lockdown and management features.
Microsoft need to recognise and accept that Windows isn't for the cool kids and consumer devices. It's for the office. And that's not a bad thing - they just need to embrace it. Microsoft need to accept that they belong with IBM and Oracle - not with Apple and Google.
The only thing Windows is *necessary* for outside of the workplace, is PC gaming. And because Windows is such a massive overhead, if they're not careful, they might lose this market too in the long run. A 'Windows Gaming Edition' would be brilliant here - reduce it down to the bare OS and whatever's needed to support gaming, slap on the Xbox UI and leave it at that.
Then take the corporate Windows back to more sensible and 'boring' UI, like refreshed Win2k based style - because in the office, people don't want the UI to completely change every time there's a new release.
The ultimate example
The Windows start menu.
You log in, Start button appears, you click on it, it chugs, you click on the thing you want, then either some more items load and something else takes the place of the entry you clicked on, OR it finishes chugging and the whole of Windows Explorer refreshes and the Start menu closes and you've no idea if you just launched anything or not, so you have to wait and see if something appears. Then, when you think it's all settled, you try again to launch your app, start using it, and then another instance appears.
Re: Using it here
C# is closer to Java than C. If you already do VB.Net then it probably won't be as big a leap as you think. I don't know if it's still the case, but MS's .NET documentation used to have examples in both VB.Net and C# - comparing the two would be a good way of getting an initial feel for C#.
Stop trying to be cool
MS need to realise they're not a cool brand and never will be. Aside from PC gaming, Windows is mostly for corporate machines. The should stop trying to be cool and just accept that their platform is the boring corporate workhorse for office desktops and workstations.
If they really want to continue this UI 'innovation' adventure then they really ought to completely separate the UI so that business users can keep the functional classic UI (Win2k or 7 perhaps?) style but still have shiny new features. And the poor old home/casual users can have whatever the latest UI innovation is.
Since Windows 8 they've been alienating both.
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Re: I wonder how Silicon Roundabout would have gone about cracking Lorenz ?
That only applies to publicly visible government IT projects. Somehow, when it comes to seemingly impossible shit like spying on all electronic communications of the entire population for example, they can apparently make it happen quite successfully.
HTC are good at the software side, but they've always been a bit shit at the hardware.
My smartphone life started with the HTC Hero, then the Sensation, then the One (M7). But after sticking with the One for so long, I needed to upgrade, and there just wasn't anything that felt worth upgrading to. So I eventually abandoned ship and got a Nexus 6P. And I love it!
I've always loved the SenseUI, and some of the HTC apps are great. I do miss some of it - particularly the contact merging and social media integration. But I can't see them ever tempting me back unless they really pull something out of the bag.
HTC are such a frustrating company, as, in *some* ways, they *are* 'quietly brilliant'. But in others, they're bloody useless. Their flagship phones never stay flagship for long at all, and until the One series, they'd be dropped, forgotten and left without updates well before a contract cycle was up.
With hardware specs, there's always an critically underpowered bit, such as the GPU or memory or storage, so that it undermines everything else.
They also have a habit of flooding the market with mid and low range models with way too many revisions that barely differ from each other, yet you get the feeling that they actually put a lot of development into them, and miss the mark every time. Whereas, at their peak, Apple made it look easy and got great results, HTC make it look like really hard work and get results that weren't worth the effort.
They remind me of the second incarnation of Atari. I had an ST(e) back in the day, and I loved it, but despite some clever bits, it was flawed and just not as good as the Amiga. Then came the Mega ST, the Falcon, the Lynx, the Jaguar... all had the potential to be brilliant, but all ruined by flaws and weird business decisions.
Musically, it does nothing, as it is. Instead, it's a pretty powerful tool that you can use to make something musical, like a custom affects processor, or a synth that takes some kind of unusual analogue input (I dunno, temperate sensor or a pressure pad for example).
You could think of it as a kind of Raspberry Pi geared for audio.
The Start menu was one of the key UI components that really helped Windows 95 take off. It's hard to imagine Windows ever being so dominant on the desktop without it. And now they've absolutely pissed it all away.
It's one thing to ditch it and try something new in 8, that was bad enough. But to bring it back but completely fuck it up so that it fails to perform its main function - to provide access to all available apps, is just insane.
I can't help but wonder if one of the big reasons people have been avoiding adopting IPv6 is because it's such a big jump from IPv4 and 'looks scary'. IPv6 addresses for example look alien to people who are familiar with (but don't really *understand*) IPv4 addresses (think PHBs). Perhaps if there'd been an IPv4-XTRA as a stepping stone with addresses like FFF.FFF.FFF.FFF it would have been less of a culture shock and easier to swallow.
Maybe that would never have been workable, and maybe looking too different isn't really a factor at all.
Re: Sounds like a Mental Health Institution
There's a fantastic book called Breaking Windows http://www.breakingwindows.net/ which details Microsoft's internal culture in the first browser wars period 97-2000. And it's fascinating that even now (ish) protecting Windows at all costs is still destroying Microsoft's potential.
what the hell?
Mandating one language is stupid. But even if you go down that route, why the hell not choose something like Vala https://live.gnome.org/Vala/Documentation - a language that compiles to C, has modern C# syntax and is actually built around GObject and the GNOME libraries?
I've been using GNOME since 1.0 but I just don't understand what they're playing at any more.
I'm having to 'reboot' mine roughly once a day at the moment. It's better than no signal at all, but as soon as my contract's up, I'm ebaying the damned thing and switching to Orange, as they're the only network with a reliable signal in my new house. I also resent having to pay for a service that partly uses my own broadband connection.
The problem I have with this, as I do with the google web apps, is that by flattening all the background colours to the same shade of white, everything has to be separated with straight lines. And all those lines and boxes actually make it look *more* cluttered despite the apparent clean-ness. It's much harder to instantly visually separate the areas of the window with that they've done. All it'd take is some different background colours for the UI areas to the document area and they could lose some of the separating lines and boxes and actually make it look cleaner and easier to comprehend.
Like many people, I started programming on speccy in basic, but around 1989 I upgraded to an Atari STe and got a copy of the excellent HiSoft BASIC.
Unlike the old 8-bit BASICs, it did away with line numbers, allowing use of line lables if needed, but also had proper support for functions and subroutines, and felt pretty modern. Plus it compiled into rather nice small binaries I seem to remember.
I have a boxee box which I got for chrimbo - looks exactly the same as your screenshots except for the iomega logo. I found that doing a firmware update (somewhere in the settings menu) gave me BBC iplayer amongst other things.
Rather hoping the next version will be even less US-centric.