Bullshit / @ 'awitty username' / LozzyHo & Give over the Hand Wringling
Everything that needs to be said, has been said.
but....
@awittyusername
"There could be child pornography, there could be bomb-making recipes," said one detective.
"Unless you tell us we're never gonna know... What is anybody gonna think?"
What if there are pictures of children making bombs? what will the daily mail think?"
COTW, You get my vote, Funny shit.
@LozzyHo
"The authorities had no option. He COULD have been hiding anything, and surely the law CANNOT take refusal as a presumption of innocence. Let's face it, I don't want Al Qaeda suspects doing so either. I don't suppose missing bail hearings, trying to enter countries illegally and having traces of explosive on your hands helped his case either."
Idiot! Thats exactly what the problem is: Dont you see? Read the story, read the comments, you have a right to silience, but yet you don't. Do you believe in your right to privacy, and silence? Do you believe that you should not have to prove your innocence, but should be proven, by the justice system beyond a reasonable doubt your guilt? Do you not understand that they brought nothing of any value to support thier suspicions, that thier suspicions were dropped, but the guy was put away for RIPA offfences even though they had no charge for any actual crime, apart from using his right to silience?
Then you should be seriously alarmed about this story, and what it means for your rights and freedom, because RIPA by all accounts suspends your rights. and I'm no activist, or spend all my days reading about this stuff, but this concerns me, alot.
If your not, then I have no hope for you and your children, enjoy X Factor and stricly, the Jungle and the Dancing on ice, you drone. I hope you do not end up becoming overly paranoid, psychotic, or have a long term mental illness that causes you to have strange behaviour that would make the police question your suspicious behaviour, they outlook isnt good.
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Please give over with the hand wringing #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 24th November 2009 13:52 GMT
" All the talk of "well what if he didn't have child porn / bomb making plans in his encrypted volumes? What if it was pictures of kittens" is disingenuous and wilfully ignores the facts.
That's exactly what the police asked him to prove, which he could have done by decrypting the files. He didn't. Which rings alarm bells unless you're a committed optimist, which doesn't tend to make you a great detective.
I'm fully aware this'll be jumped on by the "if you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear" brigade, but that's not what i'm saying at all. I'm asking how YOU propose to deal with the very real problem of people encrypting child porn / terrorist plans in the modern world. What's the solution? Ask them nicely, then give up if they say no?
If you don't want the police to be suspicious of people who refuse "on principle" to decrypt hard drives after being found with explosive on their hands, after skipping bail, after applying for a passport when theirs was retained etc etc, you're asking them to only pursue criminals they catch with a knife in someone's head and a signed note of intent ("I done it, it was me, i meant to do it, it's a fair cop") "
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Thats a good question, what should the Police do about Peados and terrorists encrypting thier data: How about doing thier job properly? If they had, then they would have a case, but they didnt have a case, he got sent down for RIPA Offence, regardless of his strange behaviour. they didnt have a case. just being suspicious of someone doesnt make you a good detective. This didnt end up going to trail on terrorism offences or being a kiddie fiddler, and then get dropped in court because of lack of evidence, with an unencryted hard drive sat in the evidence locker. there wasnt a case to bring to court.
Biting the hand that feeds IT
