Re: Trust the police?
There are always these sort of videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_9OiWHTzvE
Top 5 police brutality in the UK.
#5 is the police carefully putting somebody fighting them into a restraint position, sticking cuffs on them and then leading them towards a police van. Oh noes, stop the press. Somebody got arrested. How brutal.
Did they beat them senseless with a baton, or hit him with a tazer until it ran flat? Uh, nope.
#4, somebody resists arrest. Police stick cuffs on him and roughly toss him into the cage in the back of a police van. Somebody else resists arrest. Police carefully subdue him into a restraint position without hurting him in the process.
Did they beat them senseless with a baton, or hit him with a tazer until it ran flat? yet again, nope. You could claim the fact that they handled the first guy roughly as being brutality I suppose if you squinted hard enough, but personally I was taught that if you start the rough stuff then you might get hurt.
#3 somebody resists arrest. Police carefully subdue him into a restraint position, and stick cuffs on him. Somebody else resists arrest. Police carefully subdue him into a restraint position, and stick cuffs on him.
Did they beat them senseless with a baton, or hit him with a tazer until it ran flat? yet again, nope.
#2, 2 people resist arrest. Police are winning one and not noticeably winning another fight to stick the two people in cuffs. Backup turns up, and they arrest both, and tell people watching to push off and mind their own business.
Did they beat them senseless with a baton, or hit him with a tazer until it ran flat? yet again, nope.
#1 In a edited for brevity clip, one bloke has clearly been fighting police officers. One Police officer punches him repeatedly. Other police officer slams door on 3 people who are... doing what? Attempted participants, cheering him on in fighting plod?
Did they beat him senseless with a baton, or hit him with a tazer until it ran flat? Not on video, but an officer does repeatedly strike somebody with his fists who is not restrained and obviously is resisting arrest. It doesn't show the lead up to this force being used, strangely. Funny that these videos never do, isn't it? Almost as if there are two sides to the story, and we are only seeing one of them.
So out of the 5 most brutal bits of UK police brutality, 4 of them don't show any real brutality, and one might possibly if you take "resisting arrest, fighting and getting injured in the course of resisting arrest" as police brutality. Which personally, I don't.
I'd personally consider brutality as them cuffing somebody and then deciding to hit them with their baton until they get fed up. And there are plenty of videos of foreign police doing this, and um, none of our police doing it. Probably because, well. Our police aren't actually provably brutal at all given that there is an independent body that will investigate anything and cause anybody proven to be doing something like that is liable to get done for common assault themselves.