Still using KDE3 on openSUSE
KDE3 is still supported on openSUSE.
I love it as it is lighter weight than the later versions of KDE, and it does what I need. And it stays out of my way.
11 posts • joined 16 Nov 2008
"Those words aren't entirely hollow: Australian Bruce Tonkin sits on ICANN's board. Compatriot Paul Twomey was the organisation's chair and president from 2003-20101, giving Australia plenty of influence within the organisation."
20101? Gee that's a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time in the future. Me thinks The Doctor may have been involved, with that timey-wimey thing and all.
contact a typo has been been made.
Have three computers here at the fort (at home, for the mentally challenged): two towers and a laptop. All three are running openSuSE 12.1, KDE 3.5.10 as the desktop, and all three are setup with six user accounts:
2. The wifes
3. One for each of the younguns
Only the wife and I know the root password, which is required to:
A. Install software
B. Alter network settings
C. Install/modify/remove printers
D. Change any system settings via YaST
E. Perform any other action that affects the system
The only changes that can be made by a normal user (The wife and I run as normal users) as those for their respective desktops and files.
I set up these computers this way for a reason: it is harder for any one youngun (or anyone else, for that matter) to change system-wide settings, i.e. settings that affect *all* users.
Sorry, Linus, disagree with you on this.
BTW, Linus, next time *read* this information the installer gives you next time you install a distro. A quick search on <insert preferred search engine here> about the distro you want to check out is merely a suggestion. (I researched several distros when I decided to ditch Windows and moved to a Linux-based OS. I chose openSuSE. Been a penguin since 10.3.)
> "Have you checked the *custom animation* settings for each slide?"
> Why yes, yes I have. That is how I knew it was randomly losing the changes I was making.
Seems you have something very wrong with your install of LO, or your user prefs file(s) for LO are bonkered. (Read-only, wrong permissions, etc. also come to mind here.)
> "I took the time to learn how to use the tool properly."
> Oh look, typical F/OSStard response "RTFM!"
So you would rather someone else "RTFM" then hold your hand whilst they explain and show you, on a 2-year-old level, how to use the application ?
> Values not being saved without warning is not, never has been, never will be a user problem. It is a software one and IME it is one that Impress suffers badly from.
Wrong. I have permissions on files get accidentally changed where an application couldn't save preferences/configuration in *my* home directory. Once I realized the problem and corrected the permissions, the preferences/configuration saving problem disappeared.
It's not always a software issue. Pick an application and mark its settings file read-only. Then change a few settings, restart the app, and see if the settings were saved. More than likely not.
(I marked my file associations preferences file read-only to keep *my* preferred associations from being "helpfully" changed when I install a new app.)
And I have *YET* to have *any* component of LO fail to save values, of any kind.
Have you checked the *custom animation* settings for each slide?
The wife and I renewed our vows last October. I created several presentations for the DVD I'm putting together of the ceremony. For one of the presentations I timed the vocals of our song so I could choreograph the on-screen lyrics with the singer.
Once the timing was done, I added (cropped) stills from the ceremony video to this presentation. After adjusting the timings where needed in the custom animations toolbar, I have a presentation that choreographs the lyrics *and* the stills.
This was done on LibreOffice 3.4.3 on openSUSE 11.4/KDE 3.5.10 (I've since upgraded to openSUSE 12.1/KDE 3.5.10).
If I can do it, and I don't use Impress daily, BTW, you can too.
I took the time to learn how to use the tool properly.
It makes it hard to change some of the usual settings a normal user would be expected to change.
I personally use openSUSE, and have for the past 4 years. I did my research on which distribution was the easiest to use *AND* the easiest to configure.
Command line? I use it, *BY CHOICE*, not because I *HAVE* to use it. Some operations are faster and/or easier to do from the command line.
[An aside on that: My wife wanted a printout of all the places in her novel where the word "picture" occurred. (I didn't ask why.) Since each chapter was a separate file in a subdirectory, and since the search term was scattered through the text, opening/searching each chapter then copying/pasting to a new text file would have been tedious, but doable. I took the eaiser path:
grep -C 5 -d recurse -i "picture" '/home/<her-home-dir>/<novel-dir>/*'' | lp
The command line is only as hard as you make it: the more you are willing to learn, the easier it is. BTW, my wife *WANTS* to learn more about using the command line, because she *WANTS TO*, not because she *HAS* to.]
"I also have better things to do with my time than to fight a fucking OS for hours to get it going.. "
I say the same about Windows. Windows 95, 98, and XP. I'm fighting XP at the moment, setting it up in a virtual machine on the wife's laptop. (She needs Windows XP solely for Quickbooks and one other accounting application for bookkeeping business.) Explain to me why Windows *REQUIRES* her user name to be different from the machine name, when openSUSE, has *ZERO* problems distinguishing the two from each other?
In short, you chose the wrong distribution for your needs. Never used Ubuntu nor any of its derivatives (Xubuntu and KUbuntu), but based on the hundreds of forum posts I've read on ease of use of various Linux distributions, Ubuntu and kin are not particularly suited for those users who prefer to do more than turn it on, read and write emails, play music, and surf the Web.
To me Windows and Ubuntu are too restricted. I like getting under the hood, exploring the system, see what makes it tick. In the process I discover more reasons to explain why I switched from Windows to openSUSE Linux: a lot of the tasks I use my computer for are simply easier to do in openSUSE then Windows.
Eight to nine hours trying to set up an OS is ridiculous, for sure, regardless of which OS it is. I will say I have spent around three hours just prior to openSUSE installing itself and my chosen software. Why? The shear amount of software in the on-line repositories. I picked through the choices to decide what additional software I wanted openSUSE to install during the installation of openSUSE itself.
The software management and applications in the on-line repos alone will keep me from switching back to Windows.
BTW: Linux is the *OS*. OpenSUSE, Redhat, Ubuntu, Debian, Slackware, etc. are *DISTRIBUTIONS*. Each one takes the Linux OS and builds upon it. Ubuntu, unfortunately, locks the doors to the tool shed then hides the keys to it.
Also, to everyone who has tried *ONLY* one or Linux distributions who had a bad experience with it (them): try a different one. You might be surprised at the difference. Just keep in mind you have a choice in desktop environments. There's KDE, Gnome, Enlightenment, XFCE, LXDE, and others. If you don't like one of them, try another. If you're not sure which to choose, install a few, since you *CAN* have more than one DE installed concurrently. You just pick which one you want during boot-up.
Oops. I inadvertently left out a piece of code in my prior post. The line
"That said, consider this: I cobbled a machine together from a bunch of parts I was given."
should have been
"That said, consider this: I cobbled a machine together for my soon-to-be bride from a bunch of parts I was given."
The updated RPM is available at www314159.toerrbepenguin.ogg.
I've used Win95, then 98 and 98SE for approximately ten years. I have very little exposure to XP, zero with Vista.
I moved to OpenSUSE 10.1 two years ago, later 10.3. Now my computer I built myself: AMD XP 2200+ CPU (1.8GHz), 512MB DDR, FX5200 graphics card. Yesterday I was OGGing another of my music CDs from my collection while watching a movie online with no problems (well, until the streaming server got a case of the hiccups halfway through [#&@^$*!%#^$@&&&#!!!!!]).
That said, consider this: I cobbled a machine together from a bunch of parts I was given. The main parts I used were a mobo made in the late 90s from some off-the-wall company on the outskirts of Io (had a devil of time finding info on setting the jumpers), 256MB SDRAM, an S3 Trio3D GC, and...wait for it...an AMD K6-2-300 CPU (yes, 300 MHz).
On this snail of a machine was installed OpenSUSE 11.0, which at the time was the latest version of OpenSUSE Linux. It runs just fine, albeit rather slow compared to my 1.8GHz system, but it is completely usable, her kids fight over it, and she can do more than just surf the web with it (read: watch DVDs, use OO with no problems, basically the same things she was doing on her laptop in XP [until she decided she preferred Linux over XP that is]).
This turtle of a computer would just run Win 98. I seriously doubt XP would be in any way usable on it. OpenSUSE 11.0 as I stated is quite usable and extremely stable.
Microsofties, take note: it is this ability to run on old hardware (TMK even 386-class CPUs) that IMO gives Linux a major leg up on Windows and the like.
BTW, I switched to Linux simply because of economics: for US $65 I received a full-fledged OS and thousands of applications, tools, utilities, etc. No need to buy or search the Net for other software to do what I need. As for Windows...
Also, I absolutely LOVE the software repositories: update all software installed from them in one place (software update module in YAST) instead of downloading individual updates manually then installing one by one. Windows on the other hand...
Mine's the one with the "Linux Shell Scripting with bash" in the hip pocket.
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