* Posts by Jellied Eel

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How do you lot feel about Pay or say OK to ads model, asks ICO

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Re: Great Idea!

Please stop using the offensive reference to rape. It isn't applicable, in any way.

Nope. And sure it is. In fact there are a bunch of analogous activities that are already criminal. Rape is obviously a gross invasion of privacy and lack of consent. But maybe I just follow you around. Then I could be charged with stalking. If I follow you around online, that's cyberstalking-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking

If I hang around outside your house, that could be voyeurism. If I watch or listen to you via devices in your home, that is voyeurism. If I rummage through your underwear draw, that could be several offences, but I wouldn't need to because I know the style, color and size of all the clothing you've bought online. And if you have children, I'd know everything about them as well. Children can't give consent. So sure, some personal information may be 'strictly necessary', ie I've sold you your panties. But sharing those details is totally unnecessary.

So I don't understand why data rapists think they have an exemption to the gross invasions of privacy they conduct. Especially as their data rape also leads to other crimes, like if they leak that data. But fear not, there are also expensive services that claim to protect your identity online, or help if your ID has been stolen. Some sharing of personal information might be necessary. So services like banking and insurance share information to prevent frauds. Their apps and websites do not need to know what websites I visit however, or sell that data.

So we don't really need new laws, just to apply ones that already exist. Charge Apple, FacePalm and AlphaGoo under cyberstalking legislation, throw them in jail and do the same for the big data aggregators and wholesalers. Then, execs may, just may take the hint that data rape is not OK.

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Re: Great Idea!

Not true, you get to use their service free of charge. You are paid "in kind" rather than receiving direct financial return. It's still payment.

Not always, eg Amazon's decision to slap ads into a service people were already paying for. Or services being paid for by advertisers, but that model seems to be increasingly broken. Advertisers are beginning to realise the claims around targetted advertising don't really work in reality. But the problem is still people using my services and personal data free of charge.

Best solution would be to just make cyberstalking and data rape illegal, so back to the basic principles of consent, and minimum personal information necessary. But the ad slingers and brokers absolutely hate that idea, and as another commentor put it, the current model is akin to pay and we won't rape you, or don't pay and you're consenting.

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Great Idea!

So the recent story about TC Strings and the real-time auction for ads based on my personal infomation got me thinking. An auction is usually an arrangement between a seller and a buyer. I consign something to auction, someone buys it and the auctioneers take a fee. The TC Strings show that model is kinda broken. It's my data, but the auctioneers don't pay me anything. A transaction model obviously exists, it's just the seller is cut out of the loop.

So maybe Pay or Say OK could work. It just needs ad slingers and data harvesters to pay us for using our personal data. Sure, the price per indvidual transaction might be a small fraction of a penny, but given the number of trackers and harvesting transactions, it could quickly add up to a few beer tokens. Or just a way to compensate us for the current theft of both resources and privacy.

Is Russia using Starlink in Ukraine? Congress demands answers

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Re: Wow

It may have been switched off there due to sanctions anyway, and he apparently did refuse to turn it on when they asked. However not sure if that's down to sanctions or him publicly saying he didn't want to start a war - or possibly a bit of both?

I suspect a bit of both. Sanctions are pretty simple, ie it's a criminal offence with some pretty big penalties for companies to provide goods or services that are on the sanctions list. So stuff like Starlink terminals, smart phones and the services supporting them. Vendors have a hard time complying with the physical stuff because sanctioned nations have long found ways to avoid them. I've seen Cisco's in Tehran, even though it's illegal for Cisco to supply them there. Cisco didn't, but stuff leaks. Vendors can't really control where their kit ends up, and it's usually the job of LEAs to identify and prosecute people who've set up businesses to supply kit to sanctioned nations. But then there's also the services side. So I got asked if we could just provide our services using the customer's tin.. Which would also violate sanctions because services are sanctioned as well. I'd rather not get thrown in jail.

But kit is now 'smarter', so depend on licence or support servers, which means they can be geolocated. Which is trivial for stuff like Starlink terminals or smart phones. You've managed to import 1,000 devices. Yey!. They're paperweights because they'll be disabled as soon as they're turned on in a sanctioned country. Which is the easy bit for Starlink, Apple, Google etc. But the situation for Starlink is more complicated because although geofencing would be easy, some Starlink devices are meant to keep working while in Russia. Plus of course security risks, ie if there's a killswitch based on location, that could potentially be abused.

I very much doubt there's an easy way for Stalink to fix this completely.

Geofencing is probably the easiest way, but the problem seems mostly political and the politicians don't seem to have any solution. Or maybe just don't bother. So Russia might use Starlink. But for what? Knowing how easy it is for terminals to be located, and any usage easily intercepted and monitored. But that would still leave the issue of those services still violating the sanctions.

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Re: Wow

You really are a russian shill...

Nope, I really am not. But keep yourself wrapped up warm in your red & black comfort blanket.

But I also seem to be in good company. So some chap called 'The Pope' suggested giving peace a chance. Outrageous idea from a chap who's job description is pretty much spreading peace & goodwill. Naturally this prompted a reaction from the Clown Emperor of Ukraine and others with the usual dog-whistles that the Pope is a Russian shill, Putin puppet etc etc. Of course the Pope is also spiritual leader for a few billion Catholics, so I'm sure this will end well. But then Ukraine's also invented it's own religiion, been demolishing Russian Orthodox churches, arresting priests etc etc. Maybe they'll start attacking Catholic churches, priests and adherents as well.

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Re: Wow

Nazis and NATO mercs?

WTF is wrong with you?

It's more a question of what might be wrong with you. Or Grant Shapps and his media team. He did an ad read for Ukraine recently from Kiev. Standing in front of some wrecked tanks. None of his 'fact checkers' appeared to have noticed the Nazi graffiti spray painted on one of them. When the vid got released of course, other people did. Oops.

As for NATO mercs. This is one of the reasons France is butthurt. A bunch of French soldiers got killed in a missile strike. So France sent some more soldiers to repatriate the bodies, and Russia gave them another missile. France could have used deconfliction channels to notify Russia they were collecting their fallen, but didn't. Probably because that would have been used by Russia to confirm the presence of the French troops who were killed in the original strike.

And Macron has since been trying to find more NATO troops to die for his ego, including this recent gem-

https://english.nv.ua/nation/sejourne-repeatedly-mentioned-mine-clearing-operations-as-a-possibility-50399761.html

French Foreign Minister Stéphane Séjourné backed the idea of sending foreign troops to Ukraine during his March 8 visit to Lithuania to meet with his Baltic and Ukrainian counterparts, Politico reported.

He repeatedly mentioned mine-clearing operations as a possibility, saying it "might mean having some personnel, [but] not to fight."

Not to fight, just to die.

But this idea just demonstrates how dumb our 'leaders' really are. Thing about mines is they're deployed either side of the front line. Well, and the ones like PFM-1s that Ukraine drops on Donetsk. Somehow, I doubt Sejourne is considering sending NATO troops to Donetsk to help clear those mines. So presumably he's meaning all the mines laid on Ukraine's side of the front line. Obviously this means NATO troops would be placed in range of Russian artillery and air strikes, plus clearing Ukraine's mines would be helping Russia. De-mining Ukraine is going to be a massive task, but most of it is currently being conducted by Russia as they continue to advance and capture more Ukrainian territory.

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Re: Should be (relatively) simple...

Newsflash apples are different to oranges.

And Democrats are different to Republicans. Yet sanctions are sanctions, except if you're a Democrat supporter and donor, different rules apply-

..a pair of Democratic reps asked SpaceX

So politics, or some genuine concern? Justice is supposed to be about equality under the law, isn't it? Isn't that one of the cornerstones of democracy?

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Re: Should be (relatively) simple...

Maybe they're being "singled out" because they're the only vendor with such capabilities in operation? Where is Apple or Google's satellite internet network to compete with Starlink, hmm?

Hmm.. let me think about this. No, wait, I'll use my smartphone to find the answer on the 'net! Newsflash: Starlink is a broadband Internet access solution. And in other breaking news, so are smartphones. I don't see why either Urkraine or Congress is making such a big deal about this..

Perhaps thou shouldst stop worshipping the Muskoid and giving credence to his "I'm a victim" repertoire that he's adopted from his idol, Herr Drumpf.

Ah, there it is. TDS has been around for nearly a decade now, and Patient Zero, ie Hilary Clinton is still dining out on being a victim rather than just unliked by a large part of the US. Now TDS has been joined by the newer mutation MDS. The Left used to love him because he invented EVs, solar power, batteries and air hockey tables inside vacuum tubes. Oh, and then of course he went and bought the far-left's favorite echo chamber and started saying uncomfortable truths about free speech and political corruption. So of course the worms turned.

Meanwhile, the 'saviour of Democratcy' gave a State of the Union speech, opening with how Americans must do more for some WLB in Urkaine. Then spent most of the rest of the speech showing he clearly suffers from TDS by attacking his upcoming opponent. Helped along by some performing seals who gave standing ovations every few seconds, so the Old Guy didn't have to say too much. But then the Old Guy went to Philadelphia and talked about the terrible events of July 6th, and asking them to send him to Congress..

And in other news, not sure if Urkaine thinks Russia has Starlink dishes on Iskanders and Kinzhals. But the WLB was recently almost the victim of an assassination attempt. He allegedly went to Odessa to give medals to his drone boat operators (who do use Starlink), and after leaving, Russia gave them an Iskander as well. Then to demonstrate Russia's sense of humor, published drone photos showing how they can track the WLB motorcade. Why would Russia want him dead, when he provides them with so many other useful targets?

But such is politics. I'm still puzzled why Congress is making such a big deal out of this given Russia doesn't exactly need Starlink.

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Re: Should be (relatively) simple...

Doesn’t really matter, Starlink is a US HQ’d telco, it will do whatever the US government asks it to do and it will keep its mouth shut on such matters. This relationship between governments and their telcos goes back way too many decades.

This is true for pretty much every country, ie to get a telecomms licence in the UK, Europe or RoW, a condition is supporting lawful intercept. Same for operating any satcom service. Every operator knows this. Difference I think is Starlink is a US corporate citizen, and there are supposed to be limits to the extent that Federal or State agencies can interfere with businesses. Again, it's the way Starlink seems to be being singled out.. Which is also dangerous. Musk upsets a lot of people and has been highly critical of the 'deep state' and politicians, who now seem to be retaliating.

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Re: Should be (relatively) simple...

Yes, it would be technically possible to handle the Doppler correction and transmit shift spoofing entirely in your own custom designed ground terminal that mimics the identify of a legitimate one. But getting those ground terminals to work in the first place was a engineering achievement. No one is building an even more complex one in their basement.

I think this is one of the dangers of underestimating your opponent, technofetishism and probably the Musk effect. But basically what you're describing is this-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-shift_keying#SOQPSK

and this-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beamforming

and the engineering achievement was mostly being able to put that into a $500 package, rather than the prices paid for the systems used to transmit data between ground, aircraft or missiles and space. Russia has been doing this for years already. But fundamentally Starlink is a communications service reliant on hardware. So is an iPhone or Android. All are sanctioned, ie supply of smart phones and services that support them. During the early days of the conflict, there was news about how manufacturers had remotely disabled stolen agricultural and construction machinery that had been taken to Russia, and in our 'everything as a service' world, that's increasingly easy to do. I don't know how limited services may be on an iPhone or Android inside Russia, if they can't connect to the mothership. But everyone knows smartphones do this a lot. And we also know smartphones are on sale and in use in Russia, and the conflict zone.

Why do these work, and why isn't Congress bothered?

Also wondering about the EU's infamous washing machine chips meme. I know smartphones increasingly use serialised components to prevent repairs, but there's also also a lot of potentially useful components like cameras, sensors and processors inside.. Which is one of the reasons they're sanctioned.

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Re: Should be (relatively) simple...

I expect they are already delivering a real-time map to the NSA complete with intercepts, if not Musk deserves everything being thrown at him.

That's also one of the dangers of TLAs co-opting commercial services. People stop trusting them. Governments have long been nervous about personal satellite services because they can bypass state regulation, control and monitoring, so either end up banned or licenced and regulated. Starlink probably can deliver maps, or be compelled to deliver maps, but other nations might not be too keen on this and just make the service illegal. Obviously that could have quite an economic impact, or just a social impact given the idea of Starlink and other broadband services is to bring the 'net to parts of the world that don't have it.

To use an apple or android device you don’t need the active support of, and subscription with a US HQ’d service provider.

Are you sure about that? Devices will work just fine without regular comms with the mothership? Apple's gone to great lengths to make their devices tightly walled gardens, but maybe all those features are disabled when used in sanctioned countries. Or the grey importers have found ways around app store, payment restrictions etc, or just sell jailbroken devices. The devices themselves are sanctioned, remote kill capabilities seem to exist yet there doesn't seem to be as much interest in preventing sanction breaking with phones.

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Re: Should be (relatively) simple...

Back in 2022, Putin legalised the grey import of sanctioned items.

Always the way.. but-

Starlink terminals are reportedly being used by both sides in Russia's war against Ukraine, but now Congressional representatives want to know why.

So are iPhones and Androids. So why Congress isn't bothered about those.

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Re: Should be (relatively) simple...

Either disable all Starlink IDs close to the contested front that aren't on the list of IDs sold/given to Ukraine.

That assumes such a list exists, could be produced, and could be secured. There's a whole slew of official and volunteer efforts to supply kit to Ukraine, so might not be easy to track terminals bought in say, the US or Europe and donated. Then if a list could be made, compromising it would then give Russia a list of official Ukrainian terminals that could then be targetted.

But terminals are supposed to transmit their location, so Starlink should be able to produce a map showing active Starlink terminals. But this is also obviously risky. Starlink could say they geo-fence terminals, so connection attempts made from within Russian-declared terrorities won't work. That territory could include coastal waters to X nautical miles, but then Starlink terminals on Ukraine's drone boats would lose contact once they cross that electronic fence. So for some applications where Ukraine is known to use Starlink, it would disable those devices, unless there was a list of terminals used by drones.. But obviously that would need to be kept secure. Same issue may apply if Ukrainian agents are using Starlink to communicate inside Russia, but officially they aren't supposed to be able to do that anyway because Starlink doesn't work in Russia. And then there's potential shenanigans with GPS spoofing given Russia knows the terminals geolocate themselves.

So it may be one of those 'be careful what you wish for' demands.

It's also curious why Starlink is being singled out. Nobody is using Apples or Androids inside Russia, or Russian held Ukraine? Sanctions apply to those devices as well.

Grab a helmet because retired ISS batteries are hurtling back to Earth

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Re: I think I saw it!

I've been casually looking for news of where this landed. By the absence of news, I'm guessing it wasn't anywhere important or it would have made the news. Or maybe it landed on a EV battery factory and the news is being suppressed to stop people panicing over the opening shots in the Rise of the Machines.

Copilot can't stop emitting violent, sexual images, says Microsoft whistleblower

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Re: @Roland6 - “Gemini was caught by netizens producing pictures of people of color...

I mentioned Attila and Hannibal, and the big important thing about both of them? - they brought armies. Armies of non-white people.

...Not to mention the significant numbers of slaves the Romans imported from North Africa.

You may have caught a bad case of Netflix. Like Cleopatra. An import to N.Africa, therefore became African, therefore black. AFAIK there is nothing historically to counter the idea that she was Macedonian, and nothing depicting her with any sub-Saharan African characteristics. But the Barbary pirates were much like the Carthaginians or Egyptians and Mediterranean rather than sub-Saharan.

But again, everyone is non-white, and whiteness is now mostly used as a form of racism or racial discrimination.

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Re: @Roland6 - “Gemini was caught by netizens producing pictures of people of color...

Italy? - nope, Attila and Hannibal weren't white. Sweden? - nope, has its own non-white indigenous people.

The could mean Scandanavia, after all the Danes and Norse were pretty prolific slavers. This is also good from a reperations sense given we might be able to claim over 1,000yrs of compensation from nations that were wise enough to plan ahead and create sovereign wealth funds. Or they could mean the Italians during their Roman phase where they took slaves from across much of Europe. Or maybe the 1m+ European slaves captured and sold by the Africans of the Barbary coast. Many nations could owe Europeans an awful lot of money in compensation.

But such is politics. Everyone is a POC, and I've never seen a white person, unless they drowned in bleach.

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I'm waiting for some really compromising Ai videos of Trump. Something juicy, probably involving handing over "above top secret" documents to the Russians or Chinese.

You probably won't have to wait long. Microsoft and AlphaGoo have already de-anonymised you and now have a greater insight into your fantasies.

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Ballard novels in the AI training material?

Just wait till people look for tips on goat breeding.

IAB Europe's ad consent popups pose privacy problem

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Re: Shut it all down, please

Oh - and what happens in the UK???

At least one Brit is asking themselves how to find/block/spoof the "TC Strings" generated by their devices. Why this isn't a default OS or browser choice is somewhat puzzling, as is a generic opt-out for all stalking and tracking garbage.

German defense chat overheard by Russian eavesdroppers on Cisco's WebEx

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Re: Oops.

Seige[sic]

Sic burn man. At least it confirms you're one type of nazi..

(≧▽≦)

With digital crayons as well!

Looks like you're part of the "people in the know"

Well, maybe I found out about it on a dating site-

https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1340961/dl?inline

Or maybe I just made a mistake. I do do that sometimes, and I'll even admit it. I did wonder if that was correct but the hype wagon had been rolling for months around the 2yr anniversary, so Jan sounded plausible. But in other news, seems like Nuland is no more and can devote all her attention to being a Hutt cosplayer at assorted Cons. I do hope she writes a book, especially if she was forced to resign. So that may explain why she, nor any US reps attended the official 2yr party. But she's being replaced by another Cheney/Haliburton protege, this chap-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Bass

who's previous claim to fame was organising the US's evacuation of Afghanistan..

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Re: ... again

For example if you're comparing attacking the Baghdad electricity grid on day one of the war to liberate Kuwait in 1991 to Russia deliberately attacking the Ukrainian electricity infrastructure for two whole years in the current invasion of Ukraine - then you have probably failed in comprehension of basic english.

Uhuh. I'm sure you can produce evidence for that, ie daily, weekly or monthly attacks?

If the electricity grid was taken out for a couple of days in order to disrupt conmand and control - then there's probably no case.

Or war industry. Or just electric trains. Electricity is needed for all sorts of miltary as well as civil uses, which is perhaps why Greens are so determined to destroy that infrastructure as well. Plus there's other boring details, like an attack on civilians to prevent heating. Oddly enough, most Ukrainian homes are heated by gas..

You see the war crimes I was talking about was mass kidnapping of civilians, including tens of thousands of Ukrainian children

Citation definetly needed. Tens of thousands? Really? But do parties to a conflict have a duty to protect civilians? Like kids abandoned in an orphanage in Mariupol as an example for where this meme started. Or reports from Ukrainians who asked Russia to evacuate their kids, but were too afraid to state this for fear of reprisals from nutjobs like Azov, who may view them as 'collaborators'.

Or the mass artillery bombardments of cities, that the Russians started the war with. Such as using thermite from multiple launch rocket systems on Kharkiv and Mariupol - there was nice TV footage of that on day one of the war.

Oh dear. SMO started Jan 22nd. Seige of Mariupol started Feb 22nd. You're really not very good at producing evidence, are you?

But the Russians don't do any of that. In Syria and Ukraine they deliberately target hospitals, in order to lower enemy morale. They use indiscriminate artillery attacks on cities like Kharkiv -

Uhuh. We've bombed hospitals as well. So is Israel at the moment. Hospitals housing military personnel can be legitimate targets, ie the defence Israel is using right now for attacking hospitals. Ukraine also uses indiscriminate artillery attacks, and had been since the 2014 civil war began, and is why this mess escalated in the first place. They're also busy yeeting drones in the general direction of Russia, hittiing civilian targets.

Two wrongs don't make a right, and again, all war crimes should be investigated. Not just the ones Ukraine whines about and often fabricates.

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Re: ... again

Wagner and Russians in Syria::> 5000

Russia is there at the request of the Syrian government. We are there illegally.

USA: 200 (anti-ISIL forces).

Strange the way 'ISIL' are mostly present in the areas the US controls. Oh, and the training camps. Who is being trained there, and why?

Man, you said there were no Russians in Donbass... and that it was a "revolt against the illegal coup known as the Orange Revolution".

Again you demonstrate your inability to quote correctly. Where did I mention "Orange Revolution"? But ethnic cleansing refers to oppressing or eliminating an ethnic group, ie Ukraine's Russian population. Again it's the same justification we used to invade and destroy Yugoslavia. And oddly enough, Russia used pretty much exactly the same language as we did to justify their SMO.

What about MH17?

What about it? Are you referring to the way Ukraine allowed civil aircraft to fly over Ukraine, despite knowing the seperatists had SAM systems that could shoot them down? Or are you referring to the myth of 'Russian' Buk-M1s? BellendCat went to great lengths to pretend those came from Russia, which originally they did. But if you've been keeping up with the news, part of the fighting around Avdeevka included a stronghold known as 'Ajax', previously an air defence installation that operated Buks. As did another base just south of Donbas International Airport. But that's all part of the propaganda, ie Russian invasion rather than civil war, and the seperatists helping themselves to the crapton of equipment that had been stockpiled or in service in Ukraine post- 1991.

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Re: ... again

...but according to our Jellied Eel the Russian invasion is perfectly fine, and all the war crimes too

Err.. I've never said that. I do think the invasion was justified, and more justified than say, our continued illegal occupation of Syria. Ukraine had been killing Russians since 2014, and was poised to try and recapture Donbas and Crimea. Russia intervened to prevent that ethnic cleansing. This is a justification we've used to intervene in other sovereign states before.

As for war crimes, I've said that all war crimes should be investigated, by any side. But that one's also got a little strange as there's just been ICC charges against Russians-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68483012

The ICC said the latest warrants were due to there being reasonable grounds to believe that the two suspects were responsible for "missile strikes carried out by the forces under their command against the Ukrainian electric infrastructure".

And yet we did exactly the same thing when destroying Yugoslavia, bombing Baghdad or Tripoli.

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Re: Huh?

The word is a dog-whistle, nothing more.

Yet it's one that gets used far too frequently.

Russia's supporters use it to describe anybody who opposes a return to the Soviet "glory" days.

Ukraine's supporters use it to describe anyone that doesn't support Ukraine. Putin is a nazi. I'm a nazi. All news to me, and probably most Russians. It was also news to Turdeau and the Canadian parliament when they, along with Zelensky gave a standing ovation to an actual WW2 SS volunteer.

Claiming that a country whose head of state is a Jew with relatives who died in the Holocaust is “neo-Nazi” is absurd.

Nope, just part of the clusterfunk that is Ukraine. Zelensky cheers on people waving OUN flags flown over attrocities like the Volyhn Massacre. Or praises the Azov Special Needs unit that still sports the 2nd SS Panzer Division's insignia, along with a black sun designed for the SS. And there are people from Ukraine's 'Right Sector', like this nice chap-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleh_Tyahnybok

He also praised the Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists for having fought "Moscovites, Germans, Jews and other scum who wanted to take away our Ukrainian state"

But that can also be the difference between nazis, and neo-nazis who share the same twisted ideologies. But anti-semitism is pretty rife in Ukraine, it's just Zelensky has limited options to deal with it given the neo-nazis have repeatedly threatened to either kill or coup him.

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Re: Huh?

Foreign boots on the ground, whilst sounding outrageous, is perfectly legitimate - it's how you ensure the Ukrainians don't use the longer range western weapons on Russian soil as dictated. Approval of targets is how they've got ATACMS and Storm Shadow/SCALP in the first place.

It depends what they're doing, and how they're doing it. If they're 'volunteers', serving in the UAF then it's fine. If they're in foreign uniforms assisting the UAF, then they could be considered parties to the conflict and legitimate targets. Then given we've chosen to make them targets, NATO's Article 5 won't apply as we've intervened. Or we could try getting a UN resolution as we've done before to do things like no-fly zones or installing peacekeepers. It gets legally murky though, eg if we send troops to train Ukrainians, those Ukrainians are still valid targets. If our troops aren't uniformed, then obviously they're not given the same protections as uniformed combatants under conventions or treaties. Which we used to do extraordinary renditions, lock people up in black sites and torturing them.

Plus there's other legal stuff, like the only flags on uniforms are supposed to be from the parties to the conflict. Yet volunteers have been frequently shown wearing US flag patches. The US isn't party to the conflict, and soldiers aren't authorised to wear those insignia. Or there was an American volunteer for Russian forces filmed planting an American flag. I rather doubt they were really claiming that territory for the US.

As for Ukraine not having much in the way of 'A', there are those F-16s donated by European countries.

Yep, some of which may already have been destroyed, some which may not be operational for very long given the F-16 is rather delicate.

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Re: @Casca - ... again

Hello Jellied Eel. Split personality?

Not me guv. Yet you seem convinced I post as AC, even though I do not. As usual, you see conspiracy theories everywhere, and lack evidence to support what loosely passes as your 'arguments'..

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Re: ... again

The sooner The Register implements an ignore function on these forums, the better.

Or just remove the AC option. Fun thing about that is it does have potential for tracking anonymongs, ie posting anonymously from a registered account still gives the registered account the votes. One AC conspiracy theorist doesn't seem to grasp this concept..

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Re: Huh?

Except that it's the only overland connection between Russia and Crimea and allows Russian supplies to flow freely to the southern part of the front line without coming in range of Ukrainian weapons along the Northern part of the front line. As such it is a significant military target....

Except for that whole 'land bridge' thing, which allows both Crimea and the southern part of the front to be supplied by road or rail, without relying on the bridge. Also look at a map. Much of the land bridge supply routes are well outside the range of most Ukrainian weapon systems already, and being land based, quick to repair.

...and besides being a significant military target, the reason Ukraine are obsessed with blowing it up is that it is also a significant political / symbolic target.

Whoopee. But perhaps the problem with allowing comedians to define strategy. With limited resources, surely it would be better to apply those to more strategic targets like ammo or general logistics depots, command centres etc? Plus there's the blowback from attacking mostly symbolic or civilian targets. Every time Ukraine's hit the bridge before, there have been calls from the Russian population to take the gloves off and hit Ukraine harder.. Which Russia has done, ie responding with large drone and missile strikes.

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Re: Huh?

Oh, its war crimes now?

Yep. They talk about the Kerch bridge not being a significant military target, it's a civil structure, and yet Urkaine seems obsessed with blowing it up. Possibly because they've still got a bunch of stamps left over. Russia can just go back to using ferries, the road land bridge and is busily putting in new rail links.

But it's also why I wonder if it's deliberate disinformation. The plan talks about needing a minimum of 20x Taurus to destroy the bridge. Urkaine only has 9 Su-25's left, and I'm assuming they could only carry 2x Taurus each. It has a range of around 500km, and will have to fly a circuitous route to avoid Russian GBAD. Russia can use range and probable routes to reconfigure it's GBAD, and also guesstimate where missiles would have to be launched from. To get max range, missiles would have to be launched from high altitude, and S-300, 400 and maybe now S-500 say 'Hi!'.

So does it really make sense for Urkaine to risk pretty much it's entire ground attack capability to a pretty pointless and mostly symbolic attack on a civilian structure?

But also don't forget Nuland was recently in Urkaine and telling Russia to "Get ready for a suprise!", and a nasty one. I suspect she's not referring to her launching an OnlyFans site, but some cunning plan that hasn't materialised, yet. Then again, the US was conspicious by the absence for the 2yr anniversary, so maybe they're getting bored with the whole misadventure and ready to pull the plug. So many more countries to destabilise after all.

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Re: ... again

Hang on, this is the Ukrainians you're talking about? Not the myriad Neo-Nazi groupings in Russia? Starting with Hitler's favourite: Wagner…

Ah, playground arguments. Does Russia have units flying flags from the OUN? That red & black one? Does it have units that borrowed the insignia from the 2nd SS Panzer Division, and added the black sun that Wilhelm Landig invented for Wewelsburg, and as an alt-swastika? Or does it have units using the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS insignia?

The division is honored by the far-right in Ukraine and by some organizations of the Ukrainian diaspora in Canada. In 2020, the Ukrainian Supreme Court ruled that symbols of SS Division Galicia do not belong to the Nazis and were not banned in the country.

Or, to get even stranger-

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineInvasionVideos/comments/164435f/the_ukrainian_army_khorne_group_unit_is/

A group running around using the Khorne insignia from Warhammer 40k. Blood for the blood god etc. One of the chaos gods from the Warhammer universe and not exactly benevolent. But then Ukraine is killing 'orcs', because both Zelensky, Amazon and an Austrian housepainter regarded orcs & slavs as subhumans.

Meanwhile, Russia had been cracking down on it's far-right groups. This is one of the reasons Navalny ended up in jail and being expelled from one of his former parties. So I really don't understand why so many people are supporting obvious nazis. Ukraine could have solved this problem, and will have to solve this if it wants to join the EU because most civilised countries banned nazi insignia. Ukraine has thus far refused to do this, and instead put up statues to war criminals like Bandera.

As for Zelensky. I've never seen him wearing a kippah and AFAIK he's not an observant Jew. He does have the advantage of being able to flee to a non-extradition country and put his money into Israeli banks with very strict secrecy laws. But this is also one of the reasons Zelensky probably doesn't have much of a future given Ukraine's 'Right Sector' nutjobs have been making more noises about replacing him. His term of office does expire soon after all.

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Re: Huh?

Yes, the "misinformation" confirmed as authentic by the German government..

But it could still be misinformation. Maybe the Russians were meant to have heard that conversation, and thinking they have 6 months to counter Taurus. Maybe it's intended to draw GBAD away from other targets to protect the bridge, which might not be the target. Maybe Taurus and F-16s have already been integrated, and they'll be seen soon. Misdirection has long been used in warfare, but it has to appear believable to work.

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Re: ... again

At least get your quotes right

If I were quoting it, I'd have put it in quote marks...

..and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual.

Yep, that sums you and much of the left pretty succintly.

Now, next shift of the goalposts? Got more ad homs cued up?

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Re: ... again

Still repeating Putin's lies about Ukrainian "Nazis"

Those that ignore history are condemned to repeat it. Ukraine's red & black flag, their Galacian division, Azov, Right Sector etc etc. The last being a bit interesting given Yarosh has been hinting at coups again. But I'll just leave this here-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/43632454

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Re: ... again

which they did from September 17, 1939 until June 22, 1941?

Bad troll. In a modern day context, it's perhaps more interesting that the descendents of actual Nazis are reuniting once again to kill Russians and start a new world war. Some in Ukraine are even flying the same flags and wearing the same insignia. Never again?

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Huh?

"It is a hybrid disinformation attack. It is about division. It is about undermining our unity," he said.

And yet it's been confirmed, at least in part. Plus there's some more interesting stuff, like apparently one of the participants was calling in from a Singapore hotel room. And early in the call, participants mentioned sending files via WhatsApp. But the conspiracy theories and disinformation is flying. Some suggest a German leaked this to try and stop Germany doing something stupid. Or an allied nation leaked it for mentioning foreign boots on the ground already.

Or maybe there's some previously unknown vulnerability (or backdoor) that allows people to locate and invisibly join calls that are booked, or are in progress. Methinks this one could get fun as ideally, you'd need some way of knowing the call was happening, ie the participants diaries/schedules were also compromised.. Which could be a much bigger threat.

But other than plotting how to involve the UK in a war crime, one of the aspects was something I'd been wondering about. Taurus is an ALCM, Ukraine doesn't have much in the way of 'A'. So mentioned the number of Su-25s had left, and how they'd need modifications taking months. I guess Russia may try to reduce the number of Su-25's even further.

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Re: When propaganda champions "fact check".

TBH, I'm having quite some fun too: most people concede as soon as they are proven wrong and thus manage to avert further ridicule. But as always, there are outliers.

Ah, NJP, you'll never grow up. You haven't proven me wrong at all. CET still disagrees with the February claim. Despite that being rather obvious, you still seem convinced the claim is accurate. Here's another take on the subject that you'll no doubt ignore, throw around some more ad homs, and generally just dig your hole deeper-

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2024/03/04/february-1779-exceptionally-warm/

As noted previously, February 1779 was actually warmer than last month in Central England. It is also worth noting that there is no identifiable trend or pattern in the distribution of warm Februarys:

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Re: Natural selection at work

Jellied brain: "BBC is lying". You need English lessons? Pick another fight, man: one you can win.

I do seem to have won this one. You still can't answer the question. Let me rephrase it, again.

Met Office issues Press Release.

Bbc copypasta.

Bbc lying

Simple really. February hottest evah, yes or no? I fact checked the story and Met office lied because CET shows warmer years. Bbc didn't fact check the story, so published lies, or misinformation. I guess if the Bbc published a story that the Earth is flat, you'd believe that one as well.

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Re: Natural selection at work

Keep digging: you'll be 5ft under long before the Beeb takes side with climate change nutcases.

More snark, no answers. You're gish-galloping all over the place, yet still can't explain why CET contradicts the Bbc's story. Hint: The issue is not just the 1779 record.. But this is normal for climate change deniers. Cherry pick the end of the LIA, and find warming! Who knew?

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Re: Natural selection at work

Why don't you ask the Met Office the reason why they don't use their own values (of George III reign), instead of digging deeper and deeper your contradiction pit?

No need. Complaints have already been made to the Bbc asking them to explain why their 'story' disagrees with the Met Office's own data. Again you still can't answer the question, despite it's apparent simplicity. Cherry pick your data and you can make it say anything. It isn't science though.

But are you now saying the CET series is entirely unreliable, and should be disregarded. If not, why the divergence? Could it be something to do with the stations used and abused in different time series?

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Re: Natural selection at work

Man, it's easy. As other readers have pointed out to you repeatedly, you're citing the Met Office to accuse the BBC of bias, when it's citing... the Met Office itself (as does The Guardian and others).

Uhuhu. So Met Office data contradicts Met Office press release, and Bbc climate 'experts' dutifully regurgitate it without bothering to do any 'fact checking'.

So there are only two solutions to that equation:

1 - Either you don't understand the Met Office data (and why they discarded the oldest "values").

Or you clearly do not. If you discard (or adjust) the oldest values, then clearly you can manipulate the results. It's like conducting a drug trial for your latest patent medicine and just discarding a bunch of deaths. It's not the way science works, or is meant to work.

And I notice you still can't answer the question. CET series contradicts the claim. Was February the hottest evah, or not?

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Re: Again, caught red handed echoing Russian propaganda

Thanks for not trying to push the clot propaganda theory anymore.

Err.. that one was all yours. Well, and wikis. Knowing your style means it's easy for me to predict where you'll get your 'facts' from, like your ER doc guff. But there's still the possibility of the 'clot shot' for amusement. Russia developed their own vaccine, and I've no idea if that's more or less likely to create clotting problems than ours. Or even Navalny's vaccine status, or any pre-existing medical conditions. But then the Lancet did publish bloods taken in Germany, which may have indicated he wasn't that healthy.

The type of poison is not relevant: Novichok, Polonium or else won't change much to the fact.

It's very relevant. Like not being able to find any poison. Or symptoms not lining up with poisons. Or presence of poison being proof it was Putin, and not his lawyer slipping him some blotter Fauxvichok. But testing for all that takes time, and yet the family demanded next-day body return. Then folding that all back into murder conspiracy theories.

The fact is that a few days earlier Navalny appeared in good health and died suddenly just before being exchanged. What a coincidence.

AFAIK the exchange may just be another conspiracy theory. Stranger was dying just as Yolanda's political career was being launched at the Munich Security Conference. Did you ever find out why she was there, or who the Russian oligarch she was there with is? But sometimes coincidences happen. Yes, he appeared hale and hearty on his video call. Then, he wasn't. There's still no evidence of murder however.

As for businessmen dieing, that's just Russia for you. Business can be pretty brutal and there's a fine line between business and organised crime. Assassinations are pretty common ways to solve disputes, just ask Epstein about that.

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Re: Confirmation bias

Or maybe, just maybe you can't read the data from the Met Office themselves. Mean maximum and minimum daily and monthly data are also available, beginning in 1878. Pity that 1779 is one hundred years before 1878. LOL.

I can read, you obviously cannot. Here we go again-

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/data/meantemp_ranked_monthly.txt

Central England Temperature ranked coldest to warmest from 1659 to 2024

Sorted on 05/03/2024 units: Degrees Celsius

Now, explain how 'global warming' can be detected in one time series, but not the oldest and most established, ie CET? One obvious answer is data source, ie the weather stations used. Then the diff being explained by lousy station siting. Like Radcliffe again..

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Re: Dunning Kruger

Maybe you could value expert's opinions more than your personal gut feeling..

Objection, relevance. Bbc told a story about the UK having the hottest evah! February, yet Met Office data contradicts this claim. Do you believe the Bbc's report was factual and accurate? Yes or no.

Why is it so hard for you to answer such a simple question?

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Re: Again, caught red handed echoing Russian propaganda

Yes coroners sometimes use postmortem CT scans (PMCT), but only to decide whether to go ahead with a classic autopsy. That's increasingly common in the USA. Not in Russia. Absolutely not in some godforsaken Siberian gulag

You really are clutching at straws. So media cries 'murder' after 30mins of the news breaking. As you point out, a prison isn't likely to have advanced medical facilities, not even if the region contains the world's most accurate temperature sensing trees. Hey! Yamal!

“They couldn’t have named this diagnosis as the cause of his death. They could only have diagnosed him with ‘sudden cardiac arrest’ and listed its possible causes without jumping to conclusions.

Which of course most of the West's media and 'leaders' did when they determined it was a murder. Then decided that an initial CoD of SAD was further evidence of a conspiracy. And then transferring the body to a hospital that was equipped to perform a very high profile autopsy was evidence of a conspiracy. Remember Yolanda complaining that Russian authorities had to turn over the body within 2 days? Actually it's up to 30 days, when the CoD is unknown, or suspicious..

A detached blood clot is a lay term; the proper medical term is pulmonary embolism

Only when it's a pulmonary embolism, ie pulmonary artery and affecting the heart. Otherwise it's just an embolism, and can affect other organs..

At the moment, the cause of death has not been confirmed and is therefore ineligible.

Or extremely speculative. But still murder, right?

But considering that the ambulance crew was called in after the cardiac arrest, the clinical picture would not have been different from a heart attack, for instance, or the effect of exposure to a poisonous substance

And there we have the Fauxvichok conspiracy again. But story seems to have been Navalny went down, complaining of stomach pains, heart stopped, CPR administered. Other versions of the story say Navalny was healthy, yet complaining he was being denied medical treatment. He also complained he was transported in cramped conditions.. Much like the way being on an airplane or sedentary as someone in solitary confinement might experience, and develop thrombosis. Or just any pre-existing conditions like the pancreatitis and liver problems he apparently suffered from, which are common in alcoholics.

Therefore, such a diagnosis is nothing but a wild guess. Propaganda came up with this version surprisingly soon.”

Yep, but propaganda came up with murder and Fauxvichok much, much faster. First I heard of a clot was from Ukraine's Budanov. How that became a PE is anyone's guess, but it doesn't seem to be the official verdict.

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Re: Dunning Kruger

You're funny. In forensic cases, we don't deal with live patients. That's why it's called post-mortem.

Ya don't say. So.. you're saying it's impossible to run a corpse through a scanner?

Also, genius you apparently doesn't know that clots also appear after death

Ya don't say. But then I said-

But I think you'll find that one of the things that happens with ex-humans is blood clots.

or I guess to be more formal, coagulation. I even mentioned one of the factors. Blood can remain liquid for hours or days. Livor mortis occurs pretty quickly after death, and might also drain a clot from where it had caused a fatal obstruction. So not necessarily conclusive, hence why pathologists might look for evidence of damage to heart, lungs, brain caused by a clot. Pathologists and coroners rarely declare 'There's been a murder' in their best Scottish accents.. Unlike polticians and reporters.

Yet Johnny Dork knows better of course.

There's an excellent pseudonym for you that may help avoid future confusion. Well, for me and other readers. You, I suspect will remain in a state of perpetual confusion. But instead of digging your holes ever deeper, how about answering that simple question? February. Hottest evah, or just more fake news from the Bbc's climate 'experts'? It really isn't a very difficult question to answer.

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Re: What is news ?

Oh sure... Putin was going to allow that... Why didn't he propose that by the way? That would have been the perfect way to prove the "natural causes" theory and his innocence? Instead the Russian authorities retained the body for 10 days. So that all traces are gone. Was he afraid of something?

And there you go again, creating more conspiracy theories. Why would Putin be involved in a fairly routine DiC case? Other than perhaps telling his investigators to be thorough and document everything given the number of politicians and world 'leaders' lining up to declare it a murder. Perhaps Russia just wanted to be a little more thorough with their investigation than say, with Epstein, but thorough investigations take time. Certainly more than the 30mins from Navalny's death being announced to our 'leaders' announcing their verdict.

Blood clots can only be detected through autopsy. So you're spreading disinformation again. What a surprise.

Hahahahahahaahha.. You really are.. special. Clots can be detected by ultrasound or other imaging, at least in live patients.. Been there, done that, got the images. But I think you'll find that one of the things that happens with ex-humans is blood clots. Gets a lil complicated thanks to stuff like fibrinolysin. But I'm fairly certain it's not so much the clot, but evidence of damage caused by a clot that pathologists look for. AFAIK Russia hasn't released the autopsy results yet, but one of the first things they could have done would be run the body through a scanner.

But you still seem convinced it was a murder. Fauxvichok again? Too bad the evidence has been buried now, and the Germans can't detect 1ppb of a metabolite that 'proves' organophospate poisoning, and not eating say, an unwashed apple.

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Re: What is news ?

The obviously relevant fact was that the BBC is ONE of my news sources, but again, you choose to deliberately misunderstand.

And yet you still cited.. nothing to support your case. So now perhaps you're misremembering and only thought you saw headlines on the Bbc, when really they were on some other news site.

But the February 'record', true, or false? I know it's hard sometimes to overcome cult programming, but it's not a difficult question to answer, or 'fact check'.

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So in this situation would adding more swtiches helped or would it need a different device ie router to resolve?

Kind of. Segmenting networks so users are on their own switch can be good for both performance and security. Whether, or where to insert routers is more complex, especially given their cost compared to switches. It usually means doing some traffic analysis to figure out where traffic flows are going, and how to optimise those. So if a department's mostly talking amongst themselves and has their own file & print servers, put them on their own switch to keep that traffic local. Or switches for resilience. Issue with the Cats was really the limited backplane capacity and performanc of the sup engines, if thiings like filtering etc needed to be applied. Also not an issue unique to Cisco, ie the original Juniper BFRs were basically ATM switches with an *nix box running Junos and only a 100Mbps ethernet between brain and backplane.

I must go find the 6509 I acquired yonks ago. ISTR there were some other fun issues, like a split-backplane version where some slots were PCI-33, others were 66Mhz so you needed to be careful with which cards went in which slots, which wasn't always obvious.

Tesla Berlin gigafactory goes dark after alleged eco-sabotage

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Re: It is not left wing extremists

Because the far-right never harmed, or called for the harming of Jews, ever. Right?

The problem is with crude labelling to smear ideogical opponents. The Nazis were National Socialists, or more correctly "National Socialist German Workers' Party". Most lefties probably regard themselves as being socialists, pro-worker and anti-capitalist. That doesn't automatically make them Nazis though. Some of their policies may echo Nazi ideology, ie much of the Green stuff. Other policies may be fascist, but then the definition of fascist has been morphed to make that a right-wing thing.

But therein lies the danger. Anyone who's to the right is automatically a 'far-right' extremist, racist, anti-everything and should be locked up. The US did this with their Jan 6th protestors after all. Himmler did the same thing with the NSDAP's political opponents in Germany. Governors in the US have been trying to disenfranchise millions of voters. The US Supreme Court just gave a unanimous ruling that States don't have that power, only Congress. So of course some 'Democrat' congresscritters immediately started working on how to stop Americans voting for Trump. Colorado's leader whined about how this is 'protecting democracy' by removing voter's choice. And going back to Germany, they've been trying to do much the same thing with their AfD.

But that's the problem with democracy. Sometimes the majority might vote in a way you don't like.

Personally, I'm a libertarian. I prefer small government that doesn't get in the way. Politicians don't like this idea, neither do bureaucracies in general. I'm certainly not a fan of nationalism, especially neo-nationalism based on false ideals. That's never ended well. And I'm really not a fan of fascist or authoritarian governments, even though that's what we seem to be sleep walking into. A guy in the UK just got 2 years prison for putting stickers around with slogans like "White Lives Matter". Same judge gave much lighter sentences to pedos and other criminals. Something is.. not quite right with this picture. I don't know if there were other factors, and some of the stickers could be regarded as offensive. But 2yrs for political expression? Seems a little harsh.

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Re: It is not left wing extremists

So who is to blame? The 'far right'?

Give it time. But it's one of those ignoring history things. There are a lot of ecoterrorist groups on assorted watch lists, and performing increasingly violent 'direct action'. Yet most of the media and idiots like Sunak gloss over the dangers from far-left extremists.