* Posts by sed gawk

540 posts • joined 1 May 2008


Devuan Beowulf 3.0 release continues to resist the Debian fork's Grendel – systemd

sed gawk Silver badge

Re: "It solves a problem that people have."

Oh I agree completely, you are hosed on *nix if you can't manipulate your environment in the shell, so much of the, "panic, we should never get here, and if we do, all is lost!" handling on *nix is "here's a shell, good luck."

sed gawk Silver badge

Re: "It solves a problem that people have."

You need to understand shell inorder to maintain sysv init scripts.

Personally I don't see that as a problem, but that is basically at the heart of it.

Once you've bought into that bit of dogma, then the justifications start to snowball.

For example socket-activation, because xinetd something..

So what do you get out of it, It's the same across red-hat/debian. Some convention over configuration, but I think at a loss to clarity, since the systemd unit files, contain shell snippets, mixed with magic logic provided by systemd. So one throws up ones hands, and hopes for the best. Which I suspect is what people do when confronted with an expertly written shell scripts. ${1:-'missing'}

sed gawk Silver badge

Re: multiple monoliths

It might help to think of it as GNU/Linux.

The init process and the rest of the system is GNU, while the kernel is Linux.

The reason that init is not in the kernel, is that, the kernel doesn't care once it's booted.

It's a userspace problem to select and use an appropriate init.

lets say, in my use case I want to mount a fileysystem and give me a shell. A plain shell script will be fine, and init can simply be /bin/sh

Init or pid-1 more specifically has responsibilities for cleaning up zombies, and then the divergent implementations add other things. Typically init will mount the filesystems, and spawn a getty.

busybox/uclibc specialises in this sort of very customised, small userland, shipping an init.

Also Init has to be integrated with the rest of the system services, so it's a difficult to ship an init without having made all the other downstream choices that implies, at which point, you've rolled your own distro, again;)

Far-right leader walks free from court after conviction for refusing to hand his phone passcode over to police

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Re: Would never have happened in my day

Thanks for the links, that's pretty disgusting..

1) People in the GLU deliberately frustrated the party's procedures, that alone starts to put the rest in rather a different light.

2) You accept Diane Abbot has been hounded blatantly because she's black, but you don't suggest that means Labour has a "Black people hater" problem, conversely you use that same rationale to suggest that the party has a "Jewish people hater" problem.

3) People voting for the labour party are not the labour party, If a party member robs a bank, waving his party card, that wouldn't implicate the party in the crime. So the presence of racist arse with access to internet and labour voting preference is not the responsibility of labour, deplorable as it undoubtedly is.

Now, party officials, candidates, members etc. Yes, that is on them, wear the badge, besmirch the name, get booted out. Given the behaviour of the GLU, castigating the victim of a stitch up seems unjust. And booting them out, doesn't stop them being a racist arse on/offline, or voting for the party.

", I still don't believe for a moment the party is anti semitic" Then surely you would support Chris Williamson, who claimed labour was too apologetic about antisemitism, as you also ", I still don't believe for a moment the party is anti semitic"

Do you feel the acceptance of the IHRA efinition helped in anyway? Personally, I'm perfectly happy with the idea that the phrase "all forms of racism are unacceptable". The party accepted it. I think the wording is sloppy, but I don't see it as more than virtue signalling to have accepted it. Conversely, it doesn't hurt to adopt it..

sed gawk Silver badge

Re: Would never have happened in my day

What sticks in the throat is the bland assurances by labour that antisemitism was dealt with robustly. It was at the leaders office level, but the capture of the Labour GLU as shown time and time again in the report made action against the identified scum ineffective, there is some dispute as to if this was collateral damage or deliberate, but it clearly and provably occurred.

The report makes an overwhelming case that the Governance and Legal Unit of the Labour Party failed to take action on accusations of anti-semitism because it was devoting all of its energies to a factional effort to remove Corbyn supporters from the party.

These right wing staff were hoping for Labour electoral defeats in order to get rid of Corbyn. Senior Labour staff were actually hoping Labour would lose its seat in the Manchester Gorton by-election.

27/02/2017, 16:53 – Patrick Heneghan: Just had discussion at strategy meeting We will meet Steve and Andy next Monday – we are looking at all 3 in May but select in Gorton within 4 weeks Katy will speak to you/Iain

27/02/2017, 16:53 – Patrick Heneghan: From karie

27/02/2017, 16:54 – Patrick Heneghan: They didn’t include us in the discussion.

27/02/2017, 16:54 – Patrick Heneghan: Well let’s hope the lib dems can do it….113


while we saw party members who had been removed from their positions quietly allowed back in a few weeks later, we saw someone who had narrowly escaped prison for defacing the Warsaw ghetto monument being warmly invited and applauded by a momentum conference. Could you link that please, I'm not aware of it, but it's deplorable to host someone who had behaved in such contemptible fashion.

I think you have to separate the strands, 1) Labour party - policy, 2) Labour mp, 3) momentum. 4) Labour voters, 5) Labour sympathetic wider public.

The case of the horrible and very right wing John McTernan is instructive. McTernan had taken to writing articles in the Daily Telegraph praising the Tories and attacking Labour, but the Governance and Legal Unit of Party HQ refused to take action against him. They finally took action when he wrote an article urging the Tories to “crush the rail unions” for hampering the operations of private railway companies; but the action taken was to suspend a member who called McTernan out on his Tory support. p.140


Jewish MPs reported feeling under daily attack - are you suggesting they were all lying?

The person the most attacked in the Labour party was a black female mp, and Corbyn was attacked regularly, so I have no trouble believing that Jewish MP representing Labour, felt attacked. It's unclear if you suggest they were being attacked exclusively for being Jewish, which would be outrageous. It's also unclear how that's the fault of Labour in particular.

In August 2015, Ryan became Chair of the Labour Friends of Israel. In the 2015 Labour leadership election campaign, she urged those voting to choose a candidate who in government could "play a constructive and engaged role in the crucial search for a" two-state solution to resolve the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. In particular, she noted the "deep concerns" that she said arose from the positions Jeremy Corbyn had taken in the past and the "serious questions which arise from these".[33]

In her position as chair of LFI, Ryan was filmed as part of an Al Jazeera documentary on the alleged influence of the Israeli lobby in British politics, The Lobby.[34][35][36] This documentary was cited by her constituency Labour Party (CLP) in their vote of no confidence against the MP; in The Lobby, the CLP said Ryan made false allegations of antisemitism against the party.[37]


I had a long series of conversations with labour members who actually suggested the whole thing was a smear by Mossad because they were threatened by Corbyn, when I pointed out that they were saying that the antisemitism row was in their view because of some lying jews, therefore, they fell silent (after some choice language). Well

The Israeli ambassador, Mark Regev apologized to Alan Duncan for the comments made by Masot.[5] Masot was sent back to Israel and resigned, as did the civil servant involved.[10]

There was clearly some involvement at manipulating the public view of the situation and provision of material support to individuals.

Targeting pro-Palestinian politicians: Shai Masot, an official at the embassy, was recorded as seeking in a conversation with a British civil servant to “take down” British politicians, including Alan Duncan, then Minister of State for Europe and the Americas. Crispin Blunt, chair of the Commons Foreign Affairs Select Committee, was said to be on a “hitlist”.[6][7][8][9]

Supporting lobbying groups: Masot was also recorded as seeking to promote the establishment of a pro-Israel youth organisation, intended to be linked to the existing Labour Friends of Israel.[10] He was also recorded as telling Joan Ryan, Chair of Labour Friends of Israel, that he had £1 million to fund trips to Israel.[11]

My contention is this - labour were not and could never be an anti-semitic party - as you have pointed out very clearly. What they allowed however was a festering sore of racists within the party structure to exist and refused to deal with it robustly enough.

The report makes an overwhelming case that the Governance and Legal Unit of the Labour Party failed to take action on accusations of anti-semitism because it was devoting all of its energies to a factional effort to remove Corbyn supporters from the party.


As I asked a friend, a labour candidate in the last election, if this had been any other kind of racism, would labour have been quite so relaxed about it? I don't see any evidence that they were relaxed about it. There is a good deal of evidence that Corbyn and the wider leadership team tried to stamp on this and were delibertely undermined.

sed gawk Silver badge

Re: "deliberately ignored by authorities because of the ethnicity and/or religion"

Evidence mate. Proof. Otherwise piss off. Much as you'd like to suggest some racial angle.

Your first link says a copper said something racist and unsubstantiated, and a complaint was upheld about it, It doesn't opine on the veracity of the expressed opinion, nor provide any supporting evidence for the alleged "30 years" of continuous offending.. So yeah, I'm going to call BS on that link.

The tragic truth is that the police don't tend to take damaged children that seriously, that has huge knock on impacts in rural areas especially when there is often no-one else to ask for help.

Indeed your next link advances that very line of thought

Prof Jay said the first of these reports was "effectively suppressed" because senior officers did not believe the data. The other two were ignored, she said.

"Being cautious" much as you'd like it to mean, doesn't equate to let a nonce crack on, if they match the Pantone chart.

Prof Jay's report said that while ethnicity did not impact on the way front-line staff dealt with cases, it did affect the wider picture, with some staff in children's social care saying they were "advised by their managers to be cautious about referring to the ethnicity of the perpetrators" in reports.
Are these, the same people turning a blind eye to the welfare of the children under their care. that we are supposed to find credible?

You don't seem have read your links very closely, it clearly shows an organised group of abusers in that area and historical underreporting, which suggest that the differing races had little impact on reporting level, indeed in cases where races of offender differed from victim, it was more likely to be reported and acted upon.

Most of the victims in the cases examined were white British girls, but the report found the abuse of Asian girls was not necessarily reported.

Zlakha Ahmed, from the organisation Apna Haq which supports Asian women and children facing violence in the home, said there has been a long-standing problem of Asian girls suffering abuse.

She said: "The report's not come as a shock to me in terms that we've known about these issues for a number of years now.

"They follow the exact same model as the report that's been released; the difference is that the victims are Asian Muslim young girls and the perpetrators have been Muslim Pakistani men.

"It's just a pattern of abuse that's being repeated with another set of vulnerable girls."

Go and watch any respectable TV documentary on the issue.

Go read a book without the legend waterproof and chewable on the cover.

Just a tip, you'll struggle here, we can all read, try the daily mail or infowars, you might have better luck.

sed gawk Silver badge

Re: Would never have happened in my day

I must disagree with you comrade.

Clearly you aren't Jewish, because even thier own Jewish MPs openly decry the party as racist.

Firstly, is your contention that "No True Scotsman" would vote Labour should he eat his haggis at Shabbat dinner? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/22/jewish-voting-labour-antisemitism-progressive-government

Second to last leader was Jewish, but unfortunetly Ed came up with the wrong views..

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/jews-against-miliband This seems to have a little more spice to it..

Jews don’t form a homogeneous voting bloc, but they have in the past been a barometer: long left-leaning, they strongly backed Margaret Thatcher in the 1980s before swinging heavily to New Labour in 1997.

This week, a poll for the Jewish -Chronicle found that 69 per cent of Jews intend to vote Tory next month, with Labour trailing on only 22 per cent. Moreover, while 64 per cent said David Cameron had the best attitude towards British Jewry, only 13 per cent picked Miliband as the best supporter of the community. The Jewish Chronicle poll found 73 per cent of Jews said the parties’ approach toward Israel and the Middle East was ‘very’ or ‘quite’ important in determining how they would vote, and by 65 to 10 per cent Cameron led Miliband on having the best attitude.

Community activists believe Miliband’s position on Israel has become such a sticking point that many Jews who traditionally vote Labour can’t bring themselves to do so. One said: ‘They have been forced to choose between their party and their support for Israel in a way they never thought they would be.’ Some have already made that choice: last autumn, Maureen Lipman declared that, for the first time in five decades, she wouldn’t be voting Labour. At the same time, Kate Bearman, a former director of Labour Friends of Israel, resigned her party membership.

Even some Jewish Labour activists believe the party has written the community off electorally. This could turn out to be a costly miscalculation. There are a string of marginals — Finchley and Golders Green, Hendon, Brent Central, Ilford North, Hornsey and Wood Green, Hampstead and Kilburn, Harrow East, Harrow West and Hove — where Miliband has little room for error and Jewish voters could provide the difference between victory and defeat.

Please identify which policies target or otherwise disadvantage Jewish people, or indeed any specific group. If you can identify any racist scum in the party, report them, help drive them out, if indeed you can point to any...matzo ball

Current leader, seems to have been perfectly comfortable in the party, https://www.timesofisrael.com/keir-starmer-elected-uk-labour-chief-apologizes-to-jews-for-party-anti-semitism/

This MP seems happy to defend her choices, and political beliefs https://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/charlotte-nichols-nazis/

Her response to actual racists on the streets of Glasgow shortly after being elected (Labour) MP

She wrote: “I hope every single one of them gets their heads kicked in by the good folk of Glasgow.”

Asked by BBC correspondent Phil McCann whether she stood by her comments, she said: “These were people doing Nazi salutes on the streets of Britain.

As a Jewish person whose grandfather fought in WW2, ultimately sometimes I believe that fascism has to be physically confronted as it was at Cable Street and elsewhere.”

Obviously as someone who is now an elected public official, naturally your language is going to be different from being an ordinary member of the public.”

She added: “Sometimes I believe that fascism has to be physically confronted and I’m not going to apologise for that”.

Nichols won her Warrington North seat last Thursday with 20,611 votes, narrowly pipping her Tory opponent who had 19,102.

Doesn't seems like the sort of person who would keep quite if they thought they were member of a racist party.matzo ball

It's a stitch up, Jewish people have been at the heart of the Labour movement and on every barricade along the way, it's a travesty that history is being smeared, purely in the name of manufacturing consent for right wing views.

Amazing as soon as Corbyn was no longer threatening to improve things for the country, the problem magically went away.

Again, provide some evidence that Jewish (or other) people have to fear Labour. I contend the entire thing is but a bunch of matzo balls

sed gawk Silver badge

Re: Would never have happened in my day

Leave off.

Labour are not and have never been a racist party.

The entire thing is a stitch up documented in a 851 page document produced by the labour party.

Detailed, footnoted analysis of which https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/04/that-leaked-labour-party-report/

If, for example, I were to discover evidence of blatant racism, and send that to the EHRC, the EHRC would not refuse to look at that evidence on the grounds it breached the racists’ copyright or rights under the Data Protection Act. These excuses for suppression of the report are just that. I am accordingly myself sending a copy on to the EHRC making just that point. I find it rather troubling that Keir Starmer seems more interested in suppressing this report than acting on its alarming findings – and I say that as someone who is not initially hostile to Starmer.

What are the key points we learn from the report? Well, firstly that there did exist among Labour Party members examples of genuinely shocking and indisputable anti-semitism. It is also true that in many cases the processes of dealing with these individuals did drag on for months or even years. Much of the report is concerned with precisely whose fault that was within the Labour Party.

The report does conclusively refute the accusation that delays were occasioned by Jeremy Corbyn or his office, or that his office displayed any sympathy for anti-semitism. In fact, the opposite is the case. Corbyn’s office showed a proper hatred of anti-semitism, but also an alarming willingness to throw good people under the bus on very flimsy allegations of anti-semitism. pp306-7 The report shows a serious inability to distinguish between real, nasty anti-semitism and opposition to the policies of Israel. Furthermore, this is the attitude of the authors of the report themselves who in many scores of examples take for granted that the accusations of anti-semitism are sufficient to consider the case proven, and accept a number of specified opinions as proof of anti-semitism which are anything but.

The headlines of course have been grabbed by the report’s stunning exposure of the fact that Labour HQ was staffed by right wingers so vehemently anti-Corbyn that they actively wanted the Conservatives to win elections. I think it is important to understand just how right wing they really are. Senior members of staff were messaging each other opposing any increase in corporation tax and opposing re-nationalisation of the railways as “Trot” policies.

sed gawk Silver badge

You forgot this ->

(Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid) seriously wtaf?

sed gawk Silver badge

Re: "deliberately ignored by authorities because of the ethnicity and/or religion"

As opposed to the people running the children's home not giving a stuff who was in at night, provided the payment arrived on time.

There is no copper or social worker in the country going to give a offender a free pass to abuse children, despite your delightfully evidence free assertion to the contrary.

Sadly it is most likely the "authorities" (low paid workers in childrens home) simply didn't care about the children under their care, which is terrible, but not utterly unimaginable given the degree of trauma and behavioural difficultly the average care entrant presents upon arrival. I don't believe the staff wished harm on the children, I think they were indifferent to children's well-being, and happy to turn a blind eye to the kids running off to get pissed/stoned whatever with the result being a generation of locals aware of poorly supervised children. It's clear an abhorrent group of depraved abusers used that access to harm children.

You don't give a damn why the kids were in that situation, or what happened to them afterwards.

Shame on you. When the "authorities" actually did get a chance of getting some of the evil scum up into the dock, the trial nearly collapsed thanks to the interventions of the stupid waxy lemon.

One wonders if perhaps he was helping the accused scum deliberately, it seems he has form for knowing and trying to help child abusers. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/far-right-hero-is-a-convicted-paedophile-z6pb87rr2q5

CEO of AI surveillance upstart Banjo walks the plank after white supremacist past sinks contracts

sed gawk Silver badge

Rehabiliatation is not recommendation

He *might* be a better person than previously, however he's unsuitable for CEO of a company in the surveillance biz.

Regardless of his personal journey of redemption, "serious criminality"[1] in the leadership team compromised the company offering and threw up questions about ethics, exposure to vicarious liability.

[1] Drive by shooting - that's not small beer..

Author of infamous Google diversity manifesto drops lawsuit against web giant

sed gawk Silver badge

Reliable sources say "yeah, it doesn't mean that!"

If you google his position you'll find articles with reliable sources that back up what he has to say.

ISTR that the authors of the studies referenced by Damore repudiated that interpretation of the work.


Women as a group score higher on neuroticism in Schmitt’s meta-analysis, sure, but he doesn’t buy that you can predict the population-level effects of that difference. “It is unclear to me that this sex difference would play a role in success within the Google workplace (in particular, not being able to handle stresses of leadership in the workplace. That’s a huge stretch to me),”

Keen to go _ExtInt? LLVM Clang compiler adds support for custom width integers

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Re: What am I missing?

Nearly ;) You can't name zero width bit-fields

typedef struct {

unsigned char flag:1;

unsigned int :0;

unsigned char nibble:4;

unsigned int :0;

unsigned char munch:2;

unsigned int :0;

unsigned int mouthful:18;

unsigned int :0;

} someStructure;

COBOL-coding volunteers sought as slammed mainframes slow New Jersey's coronavirus response

sed gawk Silver badge

Write clean code, but comment on context and motivations.

I spent today tracking down an issue which is a perfect example of why comments are needed.

Symptom: YAML configuration file causes application parser to throw an exception and die with stack trace, parser complains of invalid input.

Strangely Input is well formed, and all test are passing on CI.

The code basically does


yaml_obj = YAML.new(some_properties);

utf8_txt = to_utf8_string(yaml_obj);





The fix is to add a single newline.



// Java.IO.SequenceInputStream in combination with SnakeYaml barfs unless we do this

// as the resulting yaml document is not well formed with '---' , see #link-to-more-info.





Not only is Zoom's strong end-to-end encryption not actually end-to-end, its encryption isn't even that strong

sed gawk Silver badge

Re: Citizen Lab's visual demonstration of AES-ECB encrypting an image.

I agree the example of a raw image being implicitly decipherable is less applicable in this context.

TBF to the authors, I'm struggling to remember ECB or indeed any mode of operations, being illustrated except with the penguin logo image.

For curiosity, I googled with https://www.google.com/search?q=illustration+of+ECB+mode

And gave up after a few pages without finding a suitable alternative image.

sed gawk Silver badge

Re: Citizen Lab's visual demonstration of AES-ECB encrypting an image.

I agree with your underlying point about I-frames and the like being not exactly deterministic, even with respect to colour output (different GPU's render differently).

However, I must disagree with your point about ECB. Given the same input, and same key, use of ECB mode of operations will produce the same output. When other modes are used, e.g. GCM or EAX, entire classes of attacks are prevented, by identical input producing different output.

So ECB being used as the sole cypher mode of operation, is a massive red flag, suggesting the code is therefore unlikely to have been reviewed by a proper cryptographer.

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sed gawk Silver badge

good on el reg

It's damn decent, well done people.

Boris celebrates taking back control of Brexit Britain's immigration – with unlimited immigration program

sed gawk Silver badge

Right back at you snowflake.

You seem to struggle with reading comprehension, again, telling you to speak freely, is not restricting your speech. Disaproving of your persistent use of racial slurs, is not restricting your speech.

As so often there is a useful xkcd https://xkcd.com/1357/

Jew not a racial slur, it refers to a follower of the teachings of the Torah. If you call me a racist one more time, you win a free toaster.

And sure, you've never heard of Wikipedia. Despite the many stories here in this esteemed organ.

You are expending a lot of energy needlessly, I'm more than happy with my assessment of your behaviour. I don't need your acceptance, deep down we both know what you are.

Use as awful language as you like, try to pretend an globally editable resource is the exclusive preserve of my opinion. I'm not that important, Wikipedia doesn't give a single shit about me, but you can edit it, why don't you share your wisdom with a global audience. After all as a "white new zealander", sorry a "Pakeha", of course you are totally speaking on behalf of the Pakistani diaspora, and totally not flagrant alt-right trolling.

Enjoy, feel liberated with your behaviour, I don't care how you behave, it reflects poorly only on you.

And the word racist, has a meaning, but keep projecting onto me.

I don't intend on responding to the next poorly constructed message you spew forth, so lets end it here, but feel free to keep shouting into the ether.

May you find good mental health.

sed gawk Silver badge

Bluntly, no-one voted for no-change for racist reasons.

Plenty of people have expressed a view that people who don't look the same as them should not be in this country.

You can call it what you like, it's fairly plain what that motivation should be called.

codejunky, doesn't come across as having racist motivations imo.

He's failed to engage with any of the specific questions put to him by myself and others, however.

I wouldn't describe that as dishonest, but simply the lack of an actual benefit to leaving the EU.

However we are seeing the effects play out in real time, so perhaps he, and the other leave supporters may yet be proved right.

sed gawk Silver badge

Re: Nonce

"The same can be said of efforts to stop people using terms they wish to describe themselves."

You can describe yourself anyway you like, even using deplorable language, you've shifted from [1] my "mates" like it, to "its my Maori" heritage. You simply like to troll people as it gives you a little thrill, please continue to do so.

"Wikipedia needs to talk to people of Pakistai descent." Firstly, what information do you possess that supports the notation that Wikipedia is unavailable to edit by people of "South Asian origin", I would contend that, Wikipedia is indeed editable, and thus your strawman has blown over on a windless day.

But hey, you continue to dictate to them Ah yes, the faceless mass with a single point of view, that you are kind enough to interpret, and broadcast, you hero.

I've actually taken the time to speak to people about how they prefer to be addressed, and am doing as I have been invited to do. You've been invited to refrain from using that slur on this forum, and seem unable to do so, so I find your claim lacking in credibility.

You need to do a hell of a lot more thinking then, especially if you think you're qualified to tell other people how they may speak or what language they may use.

Your flimsy attempts at defending your deplorable behaviour are lacking any credence.

Hint - from OP: "please go on, I'm sure it gladdens your heart to use such language.

Please use any language that you wish, it's unlikely to alter my perception of you and your behaviour.


sed gawk Silver badge


Is a "number used once" in crypto circles, or a paedophile in general uk slang usage.

It's interesting that you've developed a new found appreciation of the use of a racial slur in the UK, on a UK hosted message forum, but please go on, I'm sure it gladdens your heart to use such language.

P*** is a term typically used towards people of Pakistani descent,[1][2] and as a racial slur is often used indiscriminately towards people of perceived South Asian descent in general.[3] The slur is used primarily in English-speaking countries. In the United Kingdom and Canada, the term "P***" is commonly associated with "P***-bashing", violent attacks against people of South Asian origin, chiefly Pakistanis.

A man faces being sent to jail if he uses a specific term of racial abuse in public.

Michael Guilfoyle, 31, is believed to be the first person in the UK to be banned from using a particular word - "P***" - under the terms of an anti-social behaviour order.


Incidently the word for pure is "Pak", I grant you there is indeed a Maori word with the same spelling.

I think we both understand that's not what you mean by it.

Incidently I didn't threaten you, I cautioned you against using that word in the UK, due to the likely consequences. In other words, I explained that using that word in the UK is not okay.

I do rather like the idea of you trying to explain that you are only speaking Maori, somehow I don't think it will wash, but you are welcome to try.

For the record, I do think your use of language is deplorable and deliberately provocative.

sed gawk Silver badge

Re: And in a nutshell, this is why I love el-reg

Come for the articles, stay for the pedantry.

sed gawk Silver badge

Re: Why do people write the word "period" ?

it's an Americanism for the punctuation character ending a sentence '.', which in proper English, we call a full stop. We also use "full stop" in the same context as Americans use "period", but much less frequently as it doesn't scan well. I agree it's a rather Milquetoast suffix.

Git takes baby steps towards swapping out vulnerable SHA-1 hashing algo for SHA-256

sed gawk Silver badge

so git-svn was too hard for facebook to find?

Also it's very flexible git, there are things mercurial does differently but there seems to be a lot of happy git users, and support for mercurial is well mercurial.

sed gawk Silver badge

Content Addressable filesystems

So how it works is you have a hash that tells you which file in the directory is which.

when you change the hash function, you can no-longer tell which file is which.

This is more of a problem than just switching some function over, and git is fairly modular as is.

So I clone repo-A with hash-sha1, when I commit file b with hash-sha256 repo-A no-longer is able to tell that file b is already present.

This is why the article referred to write only repo. As the easy bit swapping out a hash function was done already. The hard bit, managing to still read all the existing git repos out there, still being worked on..

EU tells UK: Cut the BS, sign here, and you can have access to Galileo sat's secure service

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Re: Ha

Firstly the US food supply is not contaminated as such.

We (UK & EU) have rules that suggest animals should be kept in cleaner conditions than the US.

A US Food and Drug Administration handbook shows that US food standards allow for:

Rat hairs in paprika

Rat droppings in ginger

Insect fragments in peanut butter

Maggots in orange juice.

The US suggests that these are unlikely to be harmful to human health provided the levels are fairly low.

We (UK & EU) suggest that we'd rather not have them present, and err on the side of caution.

We have control of immigration policy, it's tragic that even now this is being raised as a justification for loosing the right of free movement.

The food imported from the US into the EU meets EU standards, the goal of the deal is that food & other products not currently compliant with UK influenced EU standards should be made available to the UK market.

sed gawk Silver badge

Re: Ha

So both the EU and the US are sufficient large markets, that we need them more than they need us.

The US is salivating at the once in a generation chance to beggar us, and sadly they've got a good chance.

The drugs market, country of origin labelling, food hygiene standards with the EU are known. We are compliant already, especially as we drafted a lot of the rules.

The US in contrast has much weaker rules, and correspondingly requires us to lower our standards.

That's unfortunately the case when we are a supplicant in the negotiations.

sed gawk Silver badge

Re: Why a trade deal with the US won't be in our favour..

We are much smaller, with industries unable to compete in the levels of scale, afforded by the American landscape, and as such we have higher costs to produce the same agricultural products, e.g. beef.

As other have explained the additional checks on produce, is likely to damage our local food production industry due to the flood of cheaper imports, requiring more stringent inspections, again raising our costs compared to the existing regime.

Higher costs, increased competition are unlikely to be helpful.

Finally given the well publicised American objection to country of origin labelling, our processed food exports will be assumed to contain non-eu sourced meats, unless we are able to prove otherwise.

Finally, I agree with your suggestion that my opinion is not relevant to the merits or otherwise of a trade deal. However, I hope that considering the relative sizes, and markets, may sway you one way or another.

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Re: Ha

Here are the US objectives for our "deal".


Sanitary and Phytosanitary Measures (SPS): Page 5

"Establish a mechanism to remove expeditiously unwarranted barriers that block the export of U.S. food and agricultural products in order to obtain more open, equitable, and reciprocal market access."

Once you mix US food in our food supply, we can no longer export to our biggest market, and we lack the scale to compete with the producers in the US.

A trade "deal" with the US will not be in our favour, please accept that, regardless of your vote in 2016.

In Rust We Trust: Stob gets behind the latest language craze

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Re: Spaceship operator <=>

in fairness, std::spaceship is about generating default relational comparison operators..

so normal you write int compare(left,right){ ..}

and then operator==(left,right){ 0== compare(left,right) }

std::spaceship will generate compare and the relational operator boilerplate..

This results in less lines of code overall in your repo. Also the remaining lines are now more focused on the desired behaviour rather the mechanics of "default comparison".

Its a goodness, "a zero cost abstraction".

UK culture sec hints at replacing TV licence fee, defends encryption ban proposals and her boss in Hacker House inquiry

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Re: Hmm

One should not have to pay a licensee fee, however, it seems the lure of non-time-shifted content is seductive enough to convince some people to pay.

If you watch time-shifted content, you don't have to pay them. It doesn't seem onerous IMO.

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Re: Hmm

Spending is not gated by taxation in our country.

We are a currency issuer, so we can spend by printing money at the cost of inflating the currency.

Taxation serves to remove money from circulation, resulting in a deflationary effect.

The issues with our Govenment spending are partly ideological, (e.g. we'll waste fortunes stopping people taking drugs), partly competence (e.g. see the cones hotline, austerity).

We (wider public) don't want to listen to the idea that paying for things collectively is cheaper. Hence we get one spiv after another trying to sell off our national assets, like the BBC.

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Re: Hmm

What does the BBC provide that enables channel 4 or any of the other broadcasters which justifiers a tax on viewers who may not wish to watch / listen to a BBC transmission?

Training & Education + routes into the industry, behind and infront of camera


Universal coverage requirements, the global network of foreign correspondents - these are not required for the other broadcasters.

It's an example of our shared national assets, if you'd like to get rid of something offering no obvious value, I think you could look elsewhere.

Finally, if you don't want to pay them, you don't have too, it's a little bit of a faff, I grant you but possible while using non-bbc services.

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Re: Hmm

The BBC (full disclosure since I got hammered last time, they used to be a customer of mine, <5 yrs ago) is a model of efficient service provision.

The BBC is perhaps our most effective projection of "soft power" throughout the world.

I personally would increase the license fee to cover the non-payers, but frankly the value on offer from things from accessible web design, camera improvements, streaming improvements.

The BBC kickstarted an entire generation of bedroom coders in the 80s, it's children's programming is generally safe to leave a kid in front of, which is less the case with e.g. SKY.

150 Quid a year is a bargain.

Three UK goes TITSUP*: Down and out for 10 hours and counting

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Re: "experiencing intermittent service"

Dropped completely about 10:30 - 11pm last night.

By 5am, mobile data was working for a few (<5) minutes at time.

DNS was not working, i.e. the route pushed didn't container nameservers.

By 11am, mobile data has been not working for about 12 hrs.

11:10am mobile data seems to be back DNS seems fine again.

Chemists bitten by Python scripts: How different OSes produced different results during test number-crunching

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Re: Please stop everybody!

Might I recommend, looking at ruby, specifically pack and unpack.

Lots of good examples of usage https://blog.bigbinary.com/2011/07/20/ruby-pack-unpack.html

binary_data = "\x05\x00\x68\x65\x6c\x6c\x6f"

length, message = binary_data.unpack("Sa*")

# [5, "hello"]


Boris Brexit bluff binds .eu domains to time-bending itinerary

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Re: Out of curiosity ...

I seem to recall "Leave.EU" got some usage, purely through the law of unintended consequences, naturally.

IR35 blame game: Barclays to halt off-payroll contractors, goes directly to PAYE

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Re: 450MB/sec, 1GB/sec?

Each time I've worked abroad, I've used it as an excuse to go exploring.

Try to learn a little of the local lingo, enjoy some of the culture.

In Brussels, little boards of beer, and by the time you've finished, no choice but another round.

I'm sure that the insurers will sort something out, but for now they are a bit vague, as too what changes to my existing coverage are required if any.

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Re: Interesting

I'm an employee but of a different company.

It's like I'm a Father, but the boy is not my son.

The clients want some statement of work built at a price agreed between us.

If I do it on my premises, my kit, on my time, to my design and I negotiate the rate.

I'm in business on my own account, just like my clients.

Try to understand, it's not about the scale. It's simply are you really in business or not.

1. [Y/N] Do you read your contracts?

2. [Y/N] Can you, and do you, regularly amend terms to suit your preferred working arrangements?

3. [Y/N] Can you pick up the phone to someone to cover your work if you fancy sacking it off for the day?

(3) is right of substitution.

(1) and (2) are subject to control.

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Re: IR35 idiocy

My current client is in the EU, and I work remotely from the UK, so it's less relevant about the local regulations, for me, and more about rules on VAT and sale of services.

However, I simply point out that this is a recent and unwelcome development, which didn't apply to the extant engagement.

The result of this is likely that I will stop working for that client for a while as VAT is complicated, and the advice below is not reassuring.

The rules around ‘place of supply’ will continue to apply in broadly the same way that they do now, areas of potential change are flagged below.

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Re: Personal Service Companies

Not sure what you mean here.

Assuming you mean raising corp tax levels?

Corp tax is too low, it makes no difference to me as it comes out of the end, and doesn't affect price to end customer.

It's a fairly simple tax, and I'd be happy to pay a higher rate of corporation tax.

VAT on the other hand means, that to the end customer, a VAT registered trader is 20% more expensive.

So there is direct impact on small business dealing with the public, e.g. sparks, gas.

Corp tax increase will be largely absorbed, it's paid on profits, so falls on the broadest shoulders. Oh and did I mention it's set too low.

BTW guess which tax the majority of the people on the fiddle cannot avoid and so complete for a lowest rate..

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Re: IR35 idiocy

It's not the language barrier. No matter how hard you try, practise the accent. They wait politely and then reply in flawless English.

It's Brexit, and my insurance not being valid in EU, the rules on providing services to EU clients.

There is a shedload of work for English speaking techies.

But it increasing comes with this caveat, from this mornings batch.

"You must speak good English and be eligible to be a freelancer in Germany (e.g. be a EU citizen, or be a permanent resident of Germany, or hold a German freelance visa)"

IR35 is less on an issue, get insurance, keep good records, and be a legit business. If HMRC comes knocking, QDOS will send them packing if you are a "straight goer". IF you are dodgy, well fair enough, I hope HMRC win.

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Re: Personal Service Companies

Dividends are taxed, I don't know what the rate is, but they are taxed.

1) Corporation Tax is fine, but it's set too low, and should be raised back to the 30% level.

2) Removing expenditure from business is just silly.

As a permie, travelling to work is not an expense, which is incurred as part of earning the money.

It's a cost related to your living situation, and, therefore not an expense, your company can reclaim.

When an employer sends a permie to another country, they pay for your travel and your hotel, that is reclaimable.

Partly why it seems unfair is that in your example, your subject moves from being the worker, to the employer.

As the employer, the business can reclaim exactly as your employer can.

As the worker, I don't get to claim the bus to work, exactly as your permie can't.

That the same person can wear both hats, doesn't change the point, expenses incurred to generate sales are legit.

Expenses incurred because one is a spendthrift are not allowable.

A better example is the computing equipment, which I provide, and your employer provides for you.

Which is why the cost of my equipment is an allowable expense.

I would encourage you to give it a try, if you're convinced it's all trebles at the bar. I expect you to undergo a Damascene conversion.

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Personal Service Companies

A company confers limited liability, so that the roof over my head is not at risk via the failure of my means of earning a living. I sell my own software, for very little money, I'm sure I could generate more profit from a paper round( do they still exist?)

I started a s/w company as a lazy sod, who had a grand dream of sleeping until noon, and writing code on the beach. Reality and family intruded, and now I work about half the year generating s/w research, and a few months a year contracting. Most of the research goes into open source, or ends up being used to provide some advantage in servicing my contracting clients, keeping the wolf from the door.

In my brief flirtation with indentured servitude, I can earn more money, than as an employee of my firm. If money is what you want, be a permie. Sadly, I don't have the money, shiny, gene. I've tried working for someone else. More cash, less everything else.

I still sell some S/W, tbf I think it's just customers trolling me now.

We're all doooooomed: Gloomy Brit workforce really isn't coping well with impending Brexit

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Re: When to move abroad

I've read this "Germany broke EU law" claim a few times here and nobody seems to challenge it, so I'm guessing it's widely assumed to be true

What's the point in trying to point out when such transparent rubbish is floated.

The problems with the statement are manifold.

1) Migrants are not refugees.

2) The Germans imposed restrictions on the border with Austria, due to the large numbers of refugees massed at the border, while they sought an EU wide solution.

3) The Germans then removed the restrictions, taking in a Million people.

4) As (2) and (3) show EU countries can control immigration without reference to "EU" law.

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Re: Valid Arguments for leaving.

Laying my cards on the table as a metropolitan elite whinging remoaner.

If no deal can be achieved.

[1] Repeal of conduct of employment business 2003 legislation.

This makes it easier as an intermediary to rip off workers for less than £10k at time, without risking the award of costs in a legal case. In other words from agency workers paid from minimum wage until about £400 per day, can have an entire months wage stolen at no risk again, something outlawed for 16 years.

This would be most often seen in recruiters with customers who refuse to pay, passing on the losses to the agency worker. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2003/3319/contents/made

[2] Property available cheaply

Quite a lot of people are overleveraged in the property market, an increase in the number of repossessions as people are unable to meet mortgage commitments, creates an opportunity for liquid investors to buy property sold at actions from banks looking purely to recoup the debt.

These are rather horrible examples, but, I think that the money backing Brexit includes these motivations.

Ben Habib (Brexit Party) €960,000 from First Property Group, his property fund manager.

Tony Goodwin (Brexit Party) Recruitment Agency owner.

So these people and people like them will gain certain specific things from Brexit.

I'd argue that agency workers and people wiped out by repossessions are likely to not view these outcomes as positively.

I don't see these as a positive, maybe I'd see it differently if I was in these chap's well heeled shoes.

Ah well, it's probably the politics of envy colouring my view.

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Re: Not coping well with Brexit

I agree with the thrust of your point.

The arguments in favour of remain are essentially

1) EU law is known and largely favourable to businesses and workers rights.

2) Free movement is a unalloyed goodness.

3)The other two global trade blocks (US and China, don't favour us, will never favour us, and are far enough away to be problematic).

4) We have the best deal in the EU, if we leave we'll have to have a worse deal with our majority trading partner.

Behold the perils of trying to turn the family and friends support line into a sideline

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Re: Funny you mention "Skip Flyer"

I did a network install over two floors for an client of my then client, i.e. moonlighting from $day_gig for $boss

The ultimate telco provider was "Skip flyer", who shipped the end client an enormously over specced cisco box, but no upstream connectivity.

I end-up needing to speak to a lawyer about this gig, who on hearing the name "Skip Flyer" tells me, they are suing them as well, so have a conflict of interest.

The D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future

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The network is not reliable.

The network bw is finite

The network topology is not static.

You can rely on localhost.

You can rely on DAS.

Devonitely not great: Torbay and South Devon NHS declares 'major IT incident'

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Re: Record Levels of Investment

Yet somehow NHS funding continue to rise, and rise, and rise, and rise.

1. Cut social care with NHS taking the slack.

2. Forced tendering with no advantage onto NHS.

3. 61 Tory MP including then PM and Health Sec, bank a fat profit from private healthcare investments.


Previously the massive centralised buying power of the NHS drove efficiencies in consumable purchases, e.g. syringes and swabs at cost price.

2014 Tories introduced "a market in health care", neatly cutting the purchasing power of the NHS, while cynically being able to claim "Record Levels of Investment".

This is the table for fixed fines, so it might be cheaper to cover up evidence and pay the "failing to explain" charge of £300.


Every pound given to the NHS has a percentage of internal market profit available to well placed people with healthcare investments, like PM and Health Sec. Resulting in NHS paying more, getting less, despite "record levels of investment".



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