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Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala

SilverWave
Linux

Mark Shuttleworth said...

Mark Shuttleworth said he had seen no sign that there were any major issues with hard drives, defaulting to older kernels or encryption. "I've no doubt there are regressions but none that have yet crossed the threshold to 'widespread consequence'," he added.

The blank and flickering screens on boot have been identified as being caused by a missing kernel module and this was experienced by users who had computers with video cards that use nvidia chips.

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/29266/1090/

SilverWave
Linux

Missing kernel module on boot causes rapidly flashing black screen during boot

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Nvidia

Quote:

By and large it sounds like the vast majority of users had smooth upgrade experiences. However, it came to our attention that some nvidia users experienced a problem during upgrades to Karmic where X fails to load and instead flashes a black screen continuously rather than going into the low graphics failsafe mode; this problem is now solved. Further investigation as to why it was going into failsafe mode to begin with, showed that the problem was that the nvidia.ko kernel module was missing during boot; these are due to a variety of unusual situations, and are described in more detail below.

SilverWave
Heart

I love Redhat! why cant we all be friends?

@ Adam Williamson 1

No, no look...

I love that Redhat is a big business and profitable.

I also love that they are ethical and do the right thing.

I would love Ubuntu to work it so they contribute more upstream.

Its just that saying they use a lot of code contributed by others, as if this was a bad thing, is an odd position given that the GPL expressly allows this.

Its also odd that you cant take a bit of good natured fun about "Charisma Envy".

Also Canonical looks like its doing well to me, they are leveraging the whole GNU/Linux/Debian ecosystem to punch well above their weight.

They also seem to have the "Cool" factor down.

Whats not to like?

It not a Win-Lose thing.

If Redhat and Ubuntu do well its Win-Win.

@ Adam Williamson 1 Posted Thursday 5th November 2009 06:51 GMT

So, let me get this straight - first you argue that Red Hat is big and successful and Canonical is small and struggling (because that's convenient for the first part of your argument), then you argue that I (let's recap - I work for Red Hat, the big successful one) must be envious of Canonical (remember - that's the small, unprofitable, struggling one)?

How's that work, then?

SilverWave
Linux

You couldn't provide any proof in support of your allegations... could you?

@By Adam Williamson 1

OK I'll ask again, please provide links to support this allegation.

#Previous#

>but tends to market itself as if it were the be-all and end-all and all the work was coming out of its own offices.

I have never seen Ubuntu marketing say anything of the sort myself maybe you have some links to back this claim up?

> Canonical uses a lot of work from other projects and companies (Debian, Red Hat, Novell and others)

Well I don't see that as wrong, after all the software is FOSS, indeed you are allowed and encouraged to do this!

SilverWave
Linux

Charisma envy? ;)

Hi Adam I think you are comparing Apples and Non-Apples

Everyone I know has great respect for Redhat.

But Redhat has a Market Cap(Mil) of 4837.11 and is making good profits.

Canonical is a private company of 200 employees not making any profit atm.

Now Mark Shuttleworth, I believe, is covering all the bills out of his own pocket so its a bit rich to be comparing the two in such a way.

> Canonical uses a lot of work from other projects and companies (Debian, Red Hat, Novell and others)

Well I don't see that as wrong, after all the software is FOSS, you are allowed and encouraged to do this!

>but tends to market itself as if it were the be-all and end-all and all the work was coming out of its own offices.

Maybe this bit gets to your fundamental concern?

I have never seen Ubuntu marketing say anything of the sort myself maybe you have some links to back this claim up?

> iain34: "blasphemy"?! exaggerate much, or are you just _that_ passionate about Ubuntu forums? :)

Not sure about this I will have a look at iain34's post but the Ubuntu Forums are brilliant :)

>It is an icky area to deal with, when I worked for Mandriva we had lots of issues with it too, it took a lot of releases before we managed three or four in a row where there weren't any problems with upgrading when using the proprietary drivers.

Hmm interesting I actually paid for the boxed retail set of a Mandriva distro thinking I could move over to Linux - It was a while ago :)

Mandriva at that time was nasty and unfinished.

I actually binned it.

I don't really see what you have got against Mark & Ubuntu except envy tbh.

I know it must be annoying when people new to GNU/Linux refer to the whole thing as "Ubuntu" but I don't think thats anything to get the hump about - they are new to the whole FOSS thing and will get it eventually.

I also think you miss the large contribution that Ubuntu does make.

1. http://ubuntuforums.org/ is probably the best advertisement for Linux and the values behind Linux that you could get.

It not only provides the best support on the web but it is polite and encourages community building and outreach.

2. It has poured money in to desktop Linux and produced a fine polished product that users love.

3. Its great at marketing and generating excitement for each new release.

4. Mark has the vision thing :)

SilverWave
Boffin

Compare Karmic release with other releases based on this poll

A direct quote from the site:

*** Disclaimer for those willing to analyse this poll ***

Most of users voting here are users with issues.

Users with painless experience are not likely to come here.

If you want to compare Karmic release with other releases based on this poll anyway here are the previous polls :

“many problems that i’ve not been able to solve”

Karmic Koala install/upgrade

Upgrade – 273 20.19%

Install – 276 20.41%

Voters: 1352.

Jaunty Jackalope install/upgrade

Upgrade – 375 18.20%

Install – 302 14.65%

Voters: 2061.

Interpid Ibex install/upgrade

Upgrade – 482 24.57%

Install – 388 19.78%

Voters: 1962.

SilverWave
Happy

GDM Login Screen

@Drak priceless simply priceless <crying with laughter>

@@AC 11:46 here you go... (Googled not tested yet)

Hack Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic koala) GDM Login Screen <http://lionlix.wordpress.com/2009/10/23/hack-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala-gdm-login-screen/>

SilverWave
Go

Karmic is rock solid - Best Ubuntu Ever.

If you are risk averse wait until 9.10.1 at least. D'oh!

I don't even go looking until the RC is out but the installation was smooth and quick.

Clean Install, but keeping /Home, is the way to go IMHO

==========================================

I do a clean install but reuse my /home drive leaving all the .files in place.

If I have any problems I can just reinstall 9.04 again.

Oh and, of course, back up home and etc to an external USB drive.

I have separate partitions for "/" (root) 10GiB; /home 100GiB; swap 8GiB; /windows; /backup.

Set your partitions up from a LiveCD with Gparted then go the manual route in the installer options. You may want to have a run through using a virtual machine first ;)

Small issues I have had:

1. Flash is not recognizing mouse clicks in multiple situations:

Fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/410407/comments/143

2. Video is tinted blue after update

Fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer0.10/+bug/409640/comments/16

3. Karmic tries to load rt2870sta AND rt2800usb. Results in no WiFi

Fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/460323

Yes there are some bugs but as its FOSS you can fix them in double quick time yourself or just wait for the fix to be pushed by Ubuntu.

Firefox flaws make up 44% of all browser bugs?

SilverWave
Linux

300,000,000+ users have _chosen_ to use Firefox

@ Anonymous Coward Posted Wednesday 11th November 2009 08:42 GMT

>GREAT argument! ...That means YOU MUST FOLLOW THE CROWD AND DO IT TOO, right?

Well I was really pointing out that 300M users had went out of their way to choose an alternative browser to IE and liked FF but not Opera.

Now I can see from your previous post that logic and clear thinking are not among your strong points, so I will endeavor to present this in a form you can understand:

300M people say Yes to Firefox :)

300M people say No to Opera :P

Now you _could_ see that lack of popularity for Opera as proving that all those 300M were wrong, ignorant and stupid... or as I argue, it more likely proves that FF is the better product :)

I notice you had nothing to say re my points on Opera being a propriety product...

Nor on the wide range of extensions offered by FF.

I have been using FF3.5 for some time now with 30 extensions which completely customize my browsing experience, it never crashes, it is fast responsive and secure. Given all of that I really cant see much of a future for Opera especially with the pressure from Chrome.

Of course once you turn 13 or 14 your views will likely mature as you do.

SilverWave
Linux

Open Source? 300,000,000+ users?

@MarkOne

>Opera is the fastest, most secure, most standards compliant and most innovative browser.

>Honestly, why are people using anything else?

Here are my reasons, in no particular order.

==================================

Open Source? No? > Fail

So 300,000,000+ users have _chosen_ to use Firefox how many have chosen to use Opera? hmmm.

Last time I tried it was was crap (long time ago).

Extensions?

I love Firefox and have a lot of experience with, it is fast and secure so why would I want to change?

I have built the perfect browser (FF+30 extensions) which is completely customized to my needs.

I associate Opera with the words, Losers, Proprietary and Unpopular.

What is your market share again - is it over 1% yet?

Whoops - there is lots more but I have run out of time... :D

Jetpack 0.6 dishes up two major APIs for Firefox add-on coders

SilverWave
Boffin

Jetpack to replace the current extension system by Firefox 4.0?

Will old extensions still work with FF4?

"Jetpack has been in the works for several months now and the progress has been steady. For now, the Jetpack project is still a separate extension for Firefox, but the aim is to have it become an integral part of the browser and replace the current system by the time Firefox 4.0 comes out. "

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Mozilla-Labs-Releases-Jetpack-0-6-for-Firefox-126417.shtml

Mozilla aborted IE in Firefox clothing

SilverWave
Happy

I like Chrome because it pushes Firefox

The reasoning is different at the different companies:

Firefox is the only reason for Mozilla to exist, helping IE does not make sense for them.

For Google the key is increasing advertising revenue, faster browsing = more searching. So helping IE6 users makes sense.

Of course Google's is a multi faceted strategy.

1st is the breakup MS's stranglehold on the web.

2nd is Speeding up the browser.

3rd is Help enable Google Apps.

Chrome helps in all of the above, its also a big stick with which to chivvy the other browser makers along the path Google wants. CF is a great idea from their point of view - stealing IE6 users from under MS's nose is just an added bonus.

You can see how much it wrong footed MS by the ridiculous response about lack of security! HAH ms talking of lack of security in IE6!!!

I am a great fan of Firefox but Chrome also helps me as the whole focus, over at Mozilla, has now switched to Speed, Speed, Speed.

This is a change long overdue, and hopefully FF3.6-3.7 and 4 will be better for it.

Chrome lit a fire under Mozilla and Firefox will be better for it :)

Thanks Google! - for helping to making Firefox better :)

Firefox 3.6 beta promises speed injection

SilverWave
Alert

Gulp! "current plan is to drop the older add-on technology with Firefox 4."

uh oh “Danger, Will Robinson!”

Firefox's future features: 3.6, 3.7, and 4.0

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-10378604-264.html

Quote:

Firefox 4 will introduce a new add-on framework under development today called Jetpack that, like Chrome's, uses Web-based technologies for add-on construction. Today's Firefox uses a foundation called XUL.

Among the other perks besides compatibility, as Mozilla sees it, Jetpack extensions are easier to write and share, and they can be updated as the browser runs without a restart. Still, it will mean a big discontinuity for programmers.

"We want for developers to want to get onto Jetpack and the Jetpack application programming interface," Shaver said, and the current plan is to drop the older add-on technology with Firefox 4.

SilverWave
Go

Mozilla thinking of pushing this as a security update?

The thinking being its a small "safe" update...

Hmm not sure I buy that but will watch with interest.

As I am on Karmic 9.10 this would actually be better for me IF the Ubuntu packagers play ball...

If not then I probably wont bother with 3.6.

FF3.5 and "Vacuum Places Improved 1" is good enough and rock solid.

Oh re the obligatory memory whinger...

1. Memory management is good in FF3.5 running in 268MB atm so no probs.

2. I have 8GB so... IDFAF :)

Karmic Koala RC drops into the wild

SilverWave
Happy

Top release - stable fast looks good.

WiFi Fix

If you have a cheepo "Tenda W322U 11N Wireless USB Adapter"

(Karmic seems to try and load rt2870sta AND rt2800usb).

Then you need to put the line 'blacklist rt2800usb' in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and you should be able to use wireless.

see here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=960642&page=11

Yeah its G not N but I have WiFi :)

Microsoft's Sidekick restoration turns into farce

SilverWave
Joke

Trust MS

LOL

:)

Swissdisk suffers spectacular cloud snafu

SilverWave
Happy

This is a parody of the MS-Danger story right... right?

You are kidding shirey!

Firefox blocks and backtracks on 'insecure' MS add-ons

SilverWave
Linux

Blocklist MS - Move to a trusted OS

nuke the [OS] from orbit. it's the only way to be sure.

Microsoft sees no silver lining in Sidekick server snafu

SilverWave
FAIL

So... what happened to the backup(s) Corrupt eh?

You did restore and test your backups right?

What! All of them? They are all corrupt?

When was your last DR test?

You are ISO9000 certified aren't you?

So "change management" ring any bells?

Phorm takes a bullet for the advertising industry

SilverWave
Happy

Scary how close they came to pulling this off though...

I remember right at the start after reading the reg article "What about the MP's and Police communicating via the web?" it was obvious that the possible blackmail implications alone should have had the government shutting Phorm down.

But the links between:

Phorm.

The big telco who supported Phorm.

The HomeOffice.

Were a little scary.

The big telco who supported Phorm has always been close to Big Government.

So was it an agreement of some kind? The thin edge of the wedge?

Or was it simply a huge get Rich Quick Scheme, and a lot of the Old Boys Network were asked to help out for a cut of the take?

I don't know but its only because of thinks like the Downing Street Petition and WriteToThem that we got people to listen up.

Also I have a much higher option of the EU after having seen just how far our government let us down in protecting us here.

Well done everyone :)

Oh and... Die Phorm DIE!

Microsoft's browser ballot bodge gets the nod

SilverWave
Linux

OK Shoot Me - But this a pretty good deal.

The top 5 installed as is IE would be fairer.

5 years isn't long enough.

But other than those 2 points - its about 90%.

Take it and move on :)

Mozilla sides with Microsoft against Google IE

SilverWave
Linux

IE6 Plug-in's are MS's soft underbelly - Cracking Strategy Google Guys, 1st Rate!

I am a little late to the debate but had to comment...

This is a game changing play by the Google guys and attacks MS's last IE holdout, IE6 corporate lock-in.

I could not give the Wave team more praise for this move respect guys.

Once this plug-in is perfected it will *force* MS's hand.

I use Firefox and recommend it to all but it looks like sour grapes from Mozilla, the are probably just aghast at the balls a move like this takes.

Lets just savour the moment - Google are going to OWN IE6!

LBH it doesn't get much better than this :)

PS

The security question is a non-starter.

After all IE6 users _By Definition_ are not security conscious, D'oh!

Also better trust Google than MS on security, another D'oh! moment.

I wonder if some could do a ff pluging? my that would be something :-o

Linus calls Linux 'bloated and huge'

SilverWave
Linux

Full Speed Ahead :) Think of it as evolution in action.

Its great that he's not complacent, and hey, maybe if he highlights it someone will provide a plan (worth a shot).

If someone did come up with a solution then we can have our cake and eat it too!

Sneaky Linus ;)

The Kernel is evolution in action - good stuff that is of value survives, the rest dies, rots and finally disappears.

From what I have seen lately re the file system if you can _prove_ your case then ppl listen. Its the scientific method applied to software development... Which is why FOSS will win in the end... it is a modern scientific, capitalist development versus the proprietary, authoritarian, monopolistic, command economy model (and we know how that one will end).

Firefox 4.0 flashes lusty leg at Windows lovers

SilverWave
Go

Tree Style Tabs - Biggest UI win since Tabs.

Tree Style Tabs & a Wide Screen - That's FF4.0 sorted then.

Microsoft offers EU choice on Windows browsers

SilverWave
Happy

MS Whimps Out to EU! *WHOOT!* EU FTW!

Sorry couldn't resist it :D

But on a more serious note:

MS are still trying to control their own punishment.

They know there are going to be forced to at least implement a Ballot of other browsers... so they try to push their own least worse solution, before the EU lowers the boom on them.

This is a good development but remember that if this was allowed:

MS wont have set the precedent of carrying competing software in their OS build disk( something they desperately want to avoid).

IE would still be built it to the OS as the default, it can just be changed. So it still has a privileged position over other browsers.

Most users get their OS with the PC set-up by their OEM... ms is known to have a LOT of influence over their decisions.

If the OEM chooses IE do users still get the Ballot screen?

Will the Microsoft update be marked Critical?

Firefox 3.7 swivels glassy eye

SilverWave
Linux

128.9MB on a 4GB system with 7tabs and 29 Add-ons

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090716 Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Shiretoko/3.5.1 - Build ID: 20090716174136

But I have flash toggled off ATM as (npwrapper.bin) was eating 8% of my CPU...

I don't think this was such a problem with 3.5.0 Hmmm.

The mockup looks OK if you are into windows.

Opera slams Microsoft's Windows 7 E move - again

SilverWave
Alert

Its supposed to hurt! - Its called punishment :)

If found guilty of abusing its dominant market position then there are two parts to any judgement:

1. Punishment - Fine the guilty party.

2. Impose a solution on the guilty party to stop the abuse.

1. 2B EURO's?

2. Offer Choice of browsers.

Oh and no MS don't get a choice - if found guilty - the court does not ask the guilty party to set its own penalty! They either do as they are told or face harsher penalties.

^The car manufacturers mentioned have not been found to be abusing any dominant market position yet so no they don't have to offer competitor products. (and there are lots of car makers not just one with a 95% share).

^^MS took IE out of MS WIN7 not the EU - blame the right people.

The EU are looking for more choice not less.

^^^Its the bundling of products with the monopoly OS that is anticompetitive not offering the product.

So ms's new anti virus product would be OK as a separate download but not as part of the os.

^^^^Some of the astroturfers are getting lazy - lots of the paid for comments above look to be cut and past - shame on you :)

Unpatched Firefox flaw lets fox into henhouse

SilverWave

Temp Fix

"As it is related to the new TraceMonkey JavaScript optimizer, users can mitigate it by temporarily disabling the optimizer. To do so:

* Enter about:config in the location bar to access advanced preferences.

* Look for javascript.options.jit.content and double click it to set it to false."

http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2009/07/mozilla-confirms-critical-security-flaw-in-firefox-3-5/

NHS Direct gets to be number one, one, one

SilverWave
Go

NHS Direct - Good Service Good Idea.

Yeah I was surprised as well but its all good and much appreciated.

The 111 number would be a great idea.

Wait wait - I'm agreeing that the government and the NHS have had a good idea and executed it well ....

I think I need a sit down...

TechCrunch dubs Linux a 'big ol’ bag of drivers'

SilverWave
Linux

Linux and Windows have similar return rates

ASUS CEO Reveals Eee PC Sales Numbers, Plans for Touch Eee PCs and More Eee Family Products:

http://blog.laptopmag.com/asus-ceo-reveals-eee-pc-sales-numbers-plans-for-touch-eee-pcs-and-more-eee-family-products

"I think the return rate for the Eee PCs are low but I believe the Linux and Windows have similar return rates. We really separate the products into different user groups. A lot of users like the Windows XP, but in Europe a lot of people want the Linux option"

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Return rates on Linux - Separating fact from FUD

http://blog.canonical.com/?p=151

"The really big news for the industry is that well-engineered Linux netbooks have similar return rates to XP. What makes a real difference to return rates is not whether it’s Linux or not, but the quality of the device’s hardware and the ability to fully partake in web and media experiences..."

SilverWave
Linux

Another Look At Linux Netbook Return Statistics

Another Look At Linux Netbook Return Statistics

http://www.bmighty.com/blog/main/archives/2009/04/lies_damned_lie.html

"According to Lai, MSI's numbers weren't based on the company's actual netbook return rates. In fact, at the time, MSI wasn't even shipping a Linux-powered netbook model.

So, where did MSI get its information? From third-party market research."

Oh yeah and who paid for that eh?

==================

Are Linux netbooks really returned more often than Windows models?

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9131204/Are_Linux_netbooks_really_returned_more_often_than_Windows_models_

"But Philip Solis, an analyst at ABI Research, questions the "reliability" of this evidence. Solis said in a March research note that Taiwan's MSI had not yet shipped a Linux-based Wind at the time of the comment to the magazine."

Microsoft knew of nasty IE bug a year before attacks

SilverWave
WTF?

LOL Just had this discussion with a colleague - WIN

On buying a new laptop I came to the conclusion that I could not use a windows OS outside a VM. Ubuntu for security and ease of use and XP or Win7 in a vm if needed...

I had been considering a dual boot but borked at the thought of having to use and trust a MS OS bare to the internet.

My disscussion over the comparative benefits of Linux security was:

MS-Windows-IE:

Any file can be executed.

Cant trust MS to fix vulnerabilities - It could take a month!

Against MS's own interests to even admit to vulnerabilities.

No independent code review. (So you don't even know the total number of vulnerabilities).

Ubuntu-FF:

File Execute permission off by default.

Lots of ppl looking for vulnerabilities and huge pressure to fix them ASAP.

Not the target of most exploit code.

FF no ActiveX

Bottom line is trust and openness. But if anything it looks like I gave MS too much credit - A WHOLE YEAR!

WTF.

BT abandons Phorm

SilverWave
Happy

Die Phorm DIE! :)

Heh - Its been a good day. You can just bet that Phorm are just _so_ happy that BT has dumped them, yeah sure, your whole business plan just when south and you just love it!

The Reg's coverage, the Blogs, the Petition, the Letter writing to your MP's and the EU Commissions enforcement all paid off.

Yes BT spouts the usual self-serving face-saving rot... but we know the truth.

We *Forced* BT to climbdown...

BT *Caved In*... sweet!

WHOOT!

Hopefully the UK government will be forced, kicking and screaming, to actually enforce the already existing privacy and interception laws without fear or favour.

We also need to take a long hard look at BT an its monopoly, I think they need spliting up as they have WAY to much power. Pride comes before a fall etc..

Firefox 3.5 - it's not a 'web upgrade'

SilverWave
Go

Mr Tech Toolbox -> Make Compatible

3.5B4 is rock solid on Linux - Just waiting for the repositories to be updated with 3.5Gold :)

Most of the big name extensions work with 3.5 but if you have any problems Mr Tech Toolbox is the way to go. Ignore MaxVersion etc.

Add-ons:

All this lot works with 3.5: "Workswonders - Web Hack Pack" - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collection/workswonders-hack

And these(but some are forced): "Workswonders - Bleeding Edge - FF3.5" - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collection/workswonders-edge

Even a link to a hacked version of Repagination that works with 3.5 Whoot!

ISPs vs BBC iPlayer: Missing the point?

SilverWave
FAIL

Is BT is abusing its Monopoly position?

It certainly looks like it...

Hmm is this something that needs to be reported to the EU Commission?

Microsoft fans call for Opera boycott

SilverWave
Happy

Confirmation a of a whole new level of *Stupid*

I don't think I have seen this level of stupid, all in one place for ages - its cute :-)

Could they all be <12 years old? This does not seem likely....

...so that would just leave a stunning level of *STUPID*

Hah just when you think you have seen it all...

EC pressure on Microsoft grows

SilverWave
Go

Remember its supposed to hurt - that's the idea D'oh

MS have been found not be following the competition rules, so the EU fines them or forces them to change their unfair behaviour - the idea is to cause ms enough pain that they see the error of there ways.

These rules only apply to companies which have effective control of a market. This is in the consumers interest in the medium to long term, as if ms abuse their dominance they can kill off any competition and set any terms and conditions there like. It also stifles innovation.

Don't kid yourself this would be a *Big Thing* yes a lot of uses would just choose the familiar but...

... Google has a well trusted brand and a lot of users would give chrome a go.

Personally I always recommend Firefox but at least Chrome is fairly safe and Auto-updates.

TBH the EU Commission is begining to look like the only organisation that is on the ordinary citizens side, fighting back against big business and privacy abusing governments.

Also after the last bloody nose ms got at the EU's hands they know who has the whip hand.

ICO voices concern over creaking data protection law

SilverWave
Happy

Phorm's Biatch

Like the ICO have any standing after the craven way they dealt with Phorm :/

No we cant actually REGULATE that would be sooo wrong... instead we would like to work closely with industry stakeholders blah blah blah...

God they make me want to vomit!

Good job we have the EU to sort them out.

Firefox users caught in crossfire of warring add-ons

SilverWave
Go

EasyList & EasyPrivacy nice :)

Oh and for AdBlock Plus subscribers to the EasyList you may want to add a subscription to EasyPrivacy as well.

http://easylist.adblockplus.org/

Adding *$script,third-party maybe a good idea as well...

http://adblockplus.org/blog/third-party-javascript-yes-it-is-a-security-risk

Although RequestPolicy looks like it may do this job better.

Oh well this whole mess may turn out for the best :)

Booted NoScript as untrustworthy and learned a bit about AdBlock cool.

SilverWave
Linux

Open Source is just like Open Science

Peer review is the key.

You can still do bad science and bad coding its just easier to spot and correct.

Also just like in science you get to stand on the shoulders of giants.

How may time have closed source apps tried to pull a NoScript and we just haven't known?

The ones that are spoted are called malware.

SilverWave
Paris Hilton

Bollocks

>Palant has yet to admit that it was probably a bad idea for Adblock Plus to disrupt NoScript updates.

No one should down load extensions from a web site direct, they should be downloaded from AMO direct, cause anything else wouldn't be *secure*.

As another user on a different forum has said:

"1. NoScript quietly added a whitelist subscription to AdBlockPlus to enable supporting ads on the NoScript site. That was sneaky, underhanded and despicable. 2. NoScript _patched the AdBlockPlus code_ to enable supporting ads on the NoScript site. This goes _way_ beyond the pale. One plugin modifying the code of another."

AdBlock was blocking Advertising D'oh.

NoScript was hacking AdBlock!!!

The good guys and the bad guys are easy to see if advertising doesn't pay your wage.

Jackalope gets jaunty with Ubuntu nip and tuck

SilverWave
Linux

RsyncCdImage

If you have an older jaunty .iso and just what the changes this tip from a friend has proved helpful....

you can rsync the .iso with rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ and then you'd only need to download <50MB of changes on the actual day

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RsyncCdImage

Nice :)

Mac and Linux Bastilles assaulted by new attacks

SilverWave
Dead Vulture

John Leyden added to fud list

So if I have a safe and give you the combination/password then this is a hack and I should consider it insecure?

COME ON

ffs

Brussels to sue UK over Phorm failures

SilverWave
Linux

Die Phorm Die!

Good news from the EU tbh sometimes I feel they are the only group not asleep at the wheel.

Oh an before I go....

So no BT trial eh ... oh that must smart :)

Hmmm in a recession and no more easy money for Phorm.

Also the usa has put a block of this dpi interception idea.

Now the EU is doing the same.

The Begining of the End.

Phorm CEO clashes with Berners-Lee at Parliament

SilverWave

Ertugrul spitts out the dummy eh?

Hmm business plan fail eh?

A good riddance of bad rubbish!

Google plugs your surf history into ad money machine

SilverWave
Go

CustomizeGoogle addon for Firefox!

CustomizeGoogle 0.76 <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/743>

And just to be safe: Untick "Accept 3rd party cookies"

Firefox update tackles critical memory bugs

SilverWave
Linux

@The BigYin

>>Yes, some of the add ons are for the previous version; I can't remove these as FF won't let me. This is yet another issue, along with the memory and CPU hogging

Sounds like profile problems, try creating a clean one and re-adding extensions 1 at a time.

Notes:

firefox -ProfileManager

firefox -safe-mode

To transfer your information between profiles you need to copy these files:

signons3.txt

key3.db

places.sqlite

cert8.db

cert_override.txt

SilverWave
Go

@Still using Firefox 2, myself

>>...That import/export stuff in FF3 doesn't seem to work well.

Yeah the workaround is to: close FF > export to html(overwrite bookmarks.html) > clean up bookmarks.html

rm bookmarkbackups > rm places.sqlite > restart ff (will auto import bookmarks.html).

All your other points :)

I was in the same place you are - very comfortable with FF2 and seeing a lot of change in FF3 that would make me have to change some very ingrained usage habits.

But Bookmarks in FF2 were crap.

You yourself had to install 5 addins to make-up for this.

So mozilla did the right thing fixing it, their solution, involving a sql db, was a bit of a surprise but it works.

FF2 is going to die and over time it will be more and more insecure and vulnerable.

I decided that I would give the developers the benefit of the doubt and give FF3 a fair chance.

To get the most out of FF3 I did need to change some things - setting history from 0 days to 90 days was a bit weird but when you see where they are coming from (history treated as just temporary bookmarks) it makes sense.

Now I can search any site I have visited in the last 90 days and most visited sites are top of the list.

There are still a few rough edges but hopefully FF3.5 will sort most of them out.

SilverWave
Go

@Still using Firefox 2, myself

>>Feh. Lack of exploits in the wild may not be a good reason to refuse an upgrade,

#Yeah but ff2 is now unsupported so the move to 3 is now imperative from a security point of view.

>> but an intrusive user interface that can't easily be disabled,

# Hmm not sure what you mean ff2 and ff3 ui aren't all that different and you can use another theme easily enough... e.g. Aero Silver Fox 3.0.2 looks good on ubuntu and windows.

>> and a loopy new bookmark-storage system

# I agree that this is a big change but I think the pain is worth it long term.

>> that can't be run through diff (or decrapified with a shell script, sed, and some basic regular expressions), still are.

# you can still import and export HTML so its not that difficult to ExportHTML > clean up > ImportHTML

>> Haven't they figured out yet that the ability to control your own UI actually matters to some people?

# you still have control over the chrome.

>>Almost as bad as the new extra-shiny UI that Microsoft has taken up inflicting on its poor users..

#Don't overstate your case. It undermines credibility.

Note: If you are worried about the address bar an extension can revert it back to ff2 behaviour.

I would say that although I was initially sceptical, the new lookup behaviour of the address bar is very good once you get used to it.

It enables you to quickly search your bookmarks and your history - very very cool.

Windows 7 test build 'turns off' Internet Explorer 8

SilverWave
Linux

EU whipped

Its getting embarrassing...

...these days the EU just has to stare hard at MS and they wet themselves.

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