* Posts by Wayland Sothcott

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The music biz's digital flops - a short history

Wayland Sothcott

Hear it, tag it

When listening to the radio sometimes you hear a really great song you want to hear again. It's hard to make notes whilst driving and usually the DJ does not back announce it. I could press a button on my radio to TAG the song. This could mean the radio downloads it and the DJ gets instant feedback on the popularity.

The tagging could be via text message to the station. So the button might simply be a preprogrammed TXT messge on my phone. Providing I send the message during the song to my radio station, then they can TXT me back with the song itself. Sending text messages is a revenue stream.

I believe the radio is the first point of contact for a listener, from there come downloads and CD purchase and going to gigs and becomming a fan (marrying a band member, having children...). If you make that process more convenient then people won't bother trying to get stuff for free when they can get it more easily for a few pence.

National Grid computers locked-down in outage cock-up

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computers are crap anyway

Once the user has all their stuff on it then they are yours to bill as much as they will accept. It's only word documents and email, nothing important.... Oh wait wrong thread, it's the UK's Electricity supply, if that goes off, all computers crash!!!

Reg readers split on Vista readiness

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computers are rubbish anyway

They only have to work well enough to be useful. They don't have to work properly. A plane that crashes as much as a computer is no use. However a landmine that works this well is pretty useful. Once the sucker has bought it and put their stuff on it then they are a cash cow.

I had one yesterday that was easily fixed. The HP came with a partition that wiped vista and re-installed the OS. Customer was OK with that fix. I think it was press F12 and say yes to wipe everything.

Sorry to be cynical but I believe it's true.

Ofcom pulls plug on wholesale broadband regulation

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Open Retch look after their own

In a rural area a customer lost sync on his long line. No amount of tinkering with different routers or filters or wiring would fix it. The line used to work unreliably but eventually broke. Customer was with Breath or someone. They had reported the fault to BT many times. On the advice of their tech support they switched to BT. BT gaurenteed to get the Broadband working, which they did, after they had installed 13 new telegraph poles along the street.

After Debian's epic SSL blunder, a world of hurt for security pros

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IT Angle

Computers are deterministic

They don't generate random numbers. Any number a computer generates is a function of it's programming and it's inputs. If you are smart enough you could recreate those inputs and get the same number. People say the real world is like this too but experiments only work under the simplist of controled conditions.

Number crunching knife crime and online ID verification

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Pirate

New World Order

Clearly to make these little things work: banning paedofiles, stop children buying knifes etc we need a really BIG thing. Global ID, online and physical.

"Well, how is Ms Smith going to impose her rules on the whole internet?

The only sites this is going to impact are UK sites, this is another stupid law."

You see people in government know this. Either they have been specifically told or they instintively know that such a thing is on the cards.

The aim is not really to stop children stabbing each other, "think of the children" is a banner under which the real plans are implemented. These rules will affect everybody not just those "who have something to hide". They are aiming to give us the feeling of beening monitored 24x7.

The police state. Now why do they want a police state? Maybe something really BAD is about to happen and we will be on the streets shouting about it.

Notice how they could not contain all the football hooligans at a recent football match. They know they are out numbered. They are trying to build a prison without bars, a prison of the mind.

I suggest everyone goes ot and commits an act of mindless vandolizm. You will be suprized at the fact you will get away with it. The prison is truly being created in your mind.

'Crazy rasberry ants' target Texan tech

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IT Angle

They could be useful

Think how much money we make fixing bugs in MS Windows and getting rid of computer viruses. These could be the next big support call. Go antz, go my little techie helpers.

Business suit tailored to reflect phone radiation

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Alert

Don't zap me mate

Zap proof suit. With further development it could be Iron Mans aparral. Could it stop that microwave heat gun? Clearly they need to see if it stops Tazers as that's what everyone here is wondering.

Mounties taser bed-ridden octagenarian

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Heart

Tazer a lot safer than an automatic sub machine gun

If the mounties were not allowed to use a Tazer then they would have had to open fire with sub machine guns, riddling the crazed knifeman with bullets and possibly spreading infected blood all up the walls. I am sure the other people on the ward are very glad this man was tazered.

Heart because of his heart op.

Retailers risk libel nightmare over 'no-work' database

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Private policing

Information is power. This info is very powerful, if you can get it. The data protection act has very little power. Police and Home Office love database. It could be it's time has come. I expect it will recieve a license from the government same as Phorm.

Wanted: Americans to join Al Qaeda

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The War On Subtitles

Evils terrorists will stop at nothing. Subtitles are the latest threat to our freedoms and western way of life. Valnerable Americans could be radicalized through the use of Enlglish subtitles on terror videos.

Top cop brands CCTV a 'fiasco'

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IT Angle

Go1984

If you use Go1984 software it's fantastic. It only records movement. It displays a calendar with red marks where it has recorded. Move the mouse over a red mark and you instantly see video. It's bloomin' fantastic. The problem is that most CCTV uses totally crappy crapped out tape.

http://www.go1984.com/

Lords linger over extreme porn definition

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@ Everyone wo thinks this is stupid

People have pointed out how stupid this law is. They have pointed out the many 'unintended' consequences.

I say this to you. Go back and read the consequences with the idea that these are the INDENDED consequences.

With a vague law we are all potentially guilty. This means the result of the police fishing for evedence is likely to find something. With a few more laws like this then everyone is guilty of a crime and only by the mercy of the prosecutors do we get left alone. So better keep your head down.

I believe pornography is material that you get off to. If you use any form of printed or screen images or writing then this is your pornography. How many parents who push their children to model clothes in chlothes catelogs realise that to a paedophile this is pornography?

The law gets through because no one likes people getting hurt or abused but this law is not about that.

You can bet that it's vagueness will allow judges and polititions to get away with perviness whilst that same vagueness will hit everybody else. One law for everyone, but it adapts.

Server theft knocks Peter Gabriel off the web

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Joke

Sledgehammer

I bet they used .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqyc37aOqT0

Microsoft to punt pensioner-proof PC

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Linux

Linux for pensioners

The PC would need to be cheap, so 2nd hand. Virus proof so Linux and hard to fiddle with so Linux again. It should not run MSN Live messenger but an IM chat compatible with MSN. It should be impossible for the grandchildren to install comet cursors and Limewire, so Linux again.

It would need to handle all the Supermarket websites because pensioners love home delivery. Need good photo software as pensioners love taking pictures of the family. Simple email program with a good ISP to handle loads of attached photos. It would need a good printer, preferably a colour laser for prining all those retirement club news letters and mailshots. A really big screen so the text is nice and large.

So an old P4 running Mepis with a 21" CRT screen being given away by the local graphic design company.

Mag-lev flywheel UPS firm says shipments speeding up

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Black Helicopters

"homeland security [and] military defense applications"

That [and] has been added by the editor?

"homeland security military defense applications" Homeland security is military?

Also with Wind Farms, we had some TV adverts showing how they get rid of surplus energy during the day. People on the coast were being blown sideways and had to hang onto things, it seemed like a waste of enery but they seemed to be enjoying it.

Helecopters could be used to power windfarms. (or is that biofuels could be grown from fossel oil derived fertilizers and farmed with fossel fueled tractors)

Pain ray really killer ray gun, many goats dead, says 'expert'

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Pirate

I don't believe it's that effective

It sounds like you can just focus the ray on any sized area upto football pitch size and instantly kill anyone in the area even if they are indoors.

Anyone who has played with WiFi (120mm wave size) will be aware that it's particularly fussy about walls and trees and foil backed plasterboard. The smaller the wave size the more fussy it gets, the Ray Gun has what was it 10mm waves?

The other thing you will notice about radio waves is they also tend to go where you least expect them to. You may not be able to get a good signal in the bedroom from the router in the front room, but someone across the valley 1km away is surfing on your signal.

This weapon does cause a very strong burning sensation in the line of the beam, we know this, reporters have tested it. I expect the power can be turned up and I expect the experimental version can kill. However all those stray waves would cause serious problems at high power levels. No wonder people were not allowed too close to the testing labs.

How scanners and PCs will choose London's mayor

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May the best man win

I suspect that will be Boris :-(

It's very strange that they can't check it manually and the electronic count rules, no matter if it's wrong. As long as you don't know it's wrong then it's correct. Schodingers cat in a box?

This has got to be the ideal system for allowing governmental election fixing.

When you think of it as allowing for electon fixing then all the rules make far more sense. It's easier to pwn a machine than a human.

The way round this is to somehow mark your ballet so it's human readable but not machine readable. I would trust the human ballet more but you risk spoiling the paper.

Plasma TV components applied to password cracking

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Hardware = Software

I have heard it said that if software is popular enough then someone will make hardware. These field programmable gate arrays translate software directly into hardware. Amazing! Truely. It ought to be possible to include them in PC's to run small bits of code super fast.

'We could wake up smarter' - Ballmer hints at Win XP reprieve

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Jobs Horns

Re: Vista is rubbish

Giles,

Actually that's exactly something you have to do with both Linux and MAC. On Linux some printers simply don't have drivers, but it's rair. However with MAC OSX upgrades you really do lose perfectly good printers. I had a customer who upgraded and they could no longer use their printer. Nothing we did would fix it except switch printers.

'Extreme porn' law could criminalise millions

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Now I get it

"See the work of Professor Milton Diamond PhD from the University of Hawai'i

<http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/online_artcls/pornography/prngrphy_ovrvw.html>

He concludes: "It is certainly clear from the data reviewed, and the new data and analysis presented, that a massive increase in available pornography in Japan, the United States and elsewhere has been correlated with a dramatic decrease in sexual crimes and most so among youngsters as perpetrators or victims"

"

So this law does the opposite. Ofcourse this is what the Government intended. They want a massive INCREASE in sexual crimes. You have to understand that it is the intention of the government to make our lives worse.

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Boffin

Re: It's all so clear to me now Dave...

Are you using a nail gun by any chance? You hit so many nails on the head so fast with that one.

Yes I have been thinking that Phorm is a spy system for the government for a while. It does fit in well with Jaqui Smiths anit-paedo plans as does this claus.

As for Canada and other countries, you're next, this is a global adgenda, stop thinking it's only the UK or only the USA. Look up New World Order for some sort of reasoning behind this madness. It's not mad it's just horrible and well thought out.

Safety glasses for power tools.

Judge muzzles Sequoia e-voting attack dogs

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Gates Horns

Delayed until September!!!!

I think that the job is done. If they have to wait until September to look at it then it's too late. By then things will have happened so that fraud is not proved.

Voting is by people for people so it should be counted by people or at least machines people can test and prove to be correct. How they work should not be secret.

Web infection attacks more than 100,000 pages

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This is so old!

Back in 2000 I wrote a site with a valnerability. It used IIS and MS Access back end. It was simple to type code into the user login box that the server interpreted as IF PASSWORD=PASSWORD THEN OPEN DOOR

The thing was that company policy was against IIS and MS Access so another programmer re-wrote it in Apache, Oracle and Java. The funny part was that this valnerability still happened but with slightly altered syntax!!!

Surely everyone passes any user input through a function to clean up the string before processing? I thought this problem was old in 2000 since you are supposed to check inputs before acting on them.

Brain-plug weapons could provide war crime immunity

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Quick change the law

We need action now. Anyone thinking bad thoughts is comitting a crime.

West Yorks rolls out cop cams, ignoring plod nod probs

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They don't like it if you record them

How do you think they would react if you pointed a camera at them when they were talking to you. Probably ask that you switch it off. Also I expect there will be lots of 'inconvenient' times when the cameras stopped working. If something really important happens some men in dark suits will take the evidence before it can be looked at properly. Then we will get a gimped up video capture showing all four suspects in one shot again and again.

UK Reaper drone wrecked in Afghanistan

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Black Helicopters

Good target practice

If you don't want to kill a person then shooting this plane is guilt free. They always say mechanical failure because it's true and missleading.

Anti-paedophile police treble arrest figures

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Guilty of thought crime?

They say it's because children get abused when the images are made. However artwork showing the same thing is illegal. It depends on what is in the mind of the person viewing. If it's looked at and held on a computer owned by an NSPCC person then that's OK because they are thinking about helping children. If it's on a Paedophiles computer then it's illegal because we know the person is having illegal thoughts. I wonder how many of the NSPCC who love children are people who love children? Maybe they could raise the conviction rate by arresting themselves? Probably better than 6%.

If a paedo has a childrens clothes catalog, is that then an illegal document?

US court waves through border laptop searches

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America is a dump anyway

The natural side of the country is amazing, the people are nice, dim but nice, but the infrastructure is a total mess. Lack of pavements, too many police, you need a gun.

UK Office of Government Commerce cracks one off

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Boffin

They are going to use it!

Eye protection, that stuff burns.

I expect they got that one of in a few minutes so never bothered to check it.

Commodore goes titsup (again)

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Heart

Amega still available

Micromart magazine has an Amega section. There are several new Amiga computers available.

Oh and I was just given a Cobalt Cube. The Cobalt servers were great because they made easy to use servers that happened to run on Linux. However due to their popularity and the fact the Linux became out of date they get hacked almost immediately if you use them online these days.

Feds to collect DNA of every person they arrest

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Stop

You had better not be born bad

Stop and search powers. Stop and DNA profile you. If you are from a bad family or of an aggressive race or have some other undesirable genetic makeup then they may well want to provide you with 'help'. Propensity to obesity, well no more cakes for you, it will go on your credit profile and be used next time you purchase using your finger scan.

The government seem to announce a new mad idea everyday. Things that could only work with lots of invasive hight tec. Last weeks example was stopping paedos using Facebook, it can't work they way they suggested but would work using Phorm.

With sufficient data there probably are crimes with a large genetic component. Big enough to look like a target group.

As with corporate sexual harassment training (you have to train everyone in case you offend those you include or exclude) then everyone will have to go on the database. Currently those non-criminals on the database are unfairly included as suspects in DNA searches, get everyone on and make it fair.

You can see that once they include innocent people then there is only one way forward. All guilty until the computers says innocent.

BT's secret Phorm trials open door to corporate eavesdropping

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Black Helicopters

Re: Is anyone genuinely surprised........ By Eponymous Cowherd

Well Jaqui Smith is the Home Office! The same Jaqui Smith who proposed stopping paedos using Bebo by registering their email address with the police. Obviously that would not work, but think what Phorm could do for that idea.

Do you think that Phorm could actually stop someone visiting a particular website using their BT ISP connection?

It looks to me as if Jaqui was counting on Phorm to make her paedo blocking ting work. Obviosuly switching ISP's would carry a 5 year prison term. Also long term Phorm would become law. Like having a government official sitting at the back of the school classroom or a government official on the staff of every news paper and radio station.

Regulator warns of increasing data demands

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Screwed both ways?

If the competition commissioner gets those companies to pay late and demand money early with contracts that totally gag and bind you then great.

However we tend to have ledgeslation which spies on ordinary people and lets the big companies have their way.

How can we know if the Competition Comissioner is one of the good guys?

Upwards thumb beause it's something rude in some hand languages.

Dubai impounds cable slicing ships

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Still suspicious

I am glad they tracked down the culprits but I still suspect it was deliberate. Hopefully they will be able to defend the Internet better in future.

Of course they lay the cables on the floor and nor bury them. It would be damaging for sea life to go plowing up the sea floor and pointless.

Other cables damaged are those in rural areas of the UK. It's blamed on pikies intent on recycling the copper but no one has seen them doing it. It costs BT thousands to fix them and rural businesses who's broadband is poor anyway get cut off from phone and Internet for weeks or months.You would think it was a plot by the local WISP companies but it was not me.

Database Trojan infests pro-Tibet websites

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Black Helicopters

If Tibet is placed on the axis of evil...

then Pro Tibet websites are illegal anyway. Supporting demontrations becomes glorification of terror and actions likely to insite racial and religious hatrid. People are already declaring the old Tibetan government bad and the chinese as liberators. We have already seen how a Tibetan flag can insite a pretty hateful response from Chinese police in San Francisco. Therefore the person holding the flag is committing a crime.

Where is the police state Icon? We need a big boot crushing a flower.

BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands

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Black Helicopters

@Blasmeme

Ditto what David said. The Government WANT PHORM to succeed. It will make their silly paedophile registering email addresses thing work. It will be that the police know the paedos ISP and login and so have a feed from Phorm.

We know about this but the vast majority won't know for 5 or 10 years. Mass action will be very difficult. Frankly you could blow down three world trade centre towers with C4 and blame it on a two of hi-jacked planes.

For pretty much all of this sort of thing we rely on smart people in authority to act on information from other smart people. We don't expect the general public to have a clue. If the people with the authority to do something about this, Ofcom or the Police decide to let it go then I can't see what we can do.

I did the Girl Friend test on this. I said that BT and Phorm had this thing called WebWise that spies on all your Internet Traffic and injects targeted adverts into the webpages. She said Oh that's a good idea, I would like that.

I also said that Chinese secret police in blue tracksuits had snatched the torch from one of the official torch bearers and ordered the San Francisco police to arrest her. She says, oh wow that's bad!

You see, targeted advertising simply does not make much of a blip on the radar compared to other black 'copter stuff that's happening.

US war robots in Iraq 'turned guns' on fleshy comrades

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Phesent shooting with a Yank gun

I was beating on a phesent shoot and one of the 'guns' was a yank. He was prone to point his gun at you when talking to you. People would duck and move out of the way and shout at him. He did not understand. "Geee, shucks"

There is a saying my grandad tells me from WW2. "When the Germans start shooting the British take cover, when the British start shooting the Germans take cover, when the Americans start shooting everyone takes cover.

These machines have simply taken on the personality of their masters.

World Bank chief: Ethanol cars run on human misery

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Boffin

Energy cost saving?

I always understood that it cost a lot of fossel fuel energy to grow crops. So much so that making food directly from fossel fuels was considered. More fossel energy goes into growing crops than you get out of the crop.

Any benefits from cleaner burning fuels and lower CO2 are lost when you look at the full picture. It's similar to zero emmission Hydrogen cars. Water is an emmission, and so is the CO2 released by the electricity generating grid used in the release of hydrogen from water.

Top-end Fords will be watching your rear

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Go

Safety = Risk

When ever you make something safer it means you can take more risk. Or it means you compensate and keep the risk the same. Good brakes mean later braking. Good handling mean faster cornering. This radar will mean faster pulling out because less observation is required.

Where were you when you learned e-voting was unreliable?

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Flame

Yeah, and if the bitch doesn't come back with the right vote, she gonna get one helluva beatin'

I never thought of that one. A voting receipt would be a dangerous thing. Your vote should be counted anonymously and acurately. It should be possible to re-run the counting process.

I have read that one district wanted their machines checked by a computer expert. However the manufacturers used the law to block access claiming the machines workings were commercial sensitive.

We have all been deliberately distracted by The War Against Terror to notice what is happening. Howere there must be a massive number of people who can see it now, judging by the posts I am seeing not just here but on national news paper sites. Yes you get a few people demanding they remove peoples human rights, but mostly people believe we have been conned by the government.

Flame of death icon because we are heading for a bloody revolution if we can't sort our democracy.

Local council uses snooping laws to spy on three-year-old

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Yes, Police State

More and more 'authorities' are getting police powers. Doormen, you know the people who never let you into clubs because of the wrong shoes, they have to be licenced, I heard they are doing their jobs illegally due to a computer failure in issuing them. Shops have to police who can buy fags and alcohol. Oh and the Confidential Terrorist Hotline 0800 789321 where even ordinary folk can report terrorists. These are forming a hirachy with the real police at the top with authority filtering down through various levels of plastic police. Neighbourhood Watch could be given Shoot to Kill rights ;-) Seriously the main police force may be under staffed but the plastic police are growing.

Controversial DNA profiling technique approved

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Pirate

Everyone is unique

This is used as the argument about why DNA is so good, because Genes are so unique. But it is not the same as the tecnique being good, they deliberately confuse the two. You can't clone a human from the info in the genetic fingerprint. However using pseudo science to baffle courts into convictions is the aim. It saves a lot of money if suspects can always be proved guilty. They are planning Titan prisons for all the extra people they intend to put away.

Courts slam Blair's 'abject surrender' to Saudi prince

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Pirate

Re: Is there a party I can morally vote for?

Darkside,

Well if it does not exists then you should stand.

Oh and the possible reason for all the jet engine failures, chemtrails.

BBC vs ISPs: Bandwidth row escalates as Tiscali wades in

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IT Angle

Net Neutrality

I have been forming an opinion about this for some time. As an ISP I worry that my subscribers will blow my bandwidth on P2P and more recently on Video Streams. However I also remember what I am charging them for, simply fast access to the Internet and sort of unmetred bandwidth. Someone can have a very valuable Internet experience using less than 1GB per month or they can have a pretty useless experience and blow 20GB.

The reason the subscriber is paying for the Internet is to get their hands on what's out there in Internet land, not really for what I am doing for them. All those people provide all those websites that my subscribers want to look at and all I have to do is keep them online. So the fact that the BBC is providing even more for them to want means I should be happy that my service is now even more desirable.

OK so the reason that as an ISP I am worried is that I am not charging them extra money for the extra bandwidth. It's simple, charge a lot more for unlimited bandwidth and charge extra for gigabytes on metred services. Effectively if allow people 3GB they will probably never hit the limit. Plenty of people will use 10, 20, 40 70 GB every month but they need to pay more. I am sure that the high usage people only do so because it's free. If it cost them even a little more they would not bother.

You don't have to be the cheapest ISP, just have a price people can afford. If they can afford £10 per month but want something better then £20 is still fine. Then why not £25 or £35?

The only tricky bit here is why should the subscriber pay to view adverts.

O2 PR calls Reg readers 'techie nerds'

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Paris Hilton

I'm no nerd

I am more like one of those movie heros who also knows techie stuff. Do you remember the bit in Die Hard where John needs to lock the wheels on the mercedes to flip it backwards so he pulls the ABS fuse.

Paris because heros need a blond bimbo.

Transcript disappears minister's 'hack-proof' ID register claim

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IT Angle

'hack-proof' = 'Hack-Me'

It should not have been described as Hack-Proof in the first place. Removing 'hack-proof' from the transcript might go a little way to making it more secure.

Saying a network is not connected to the Internet is likely to be wrong. If the national database is accessable from a PC rather than a dedicated terminal then it will be connected to the Internet whether that was the intention or not. It would only take one PC with Internet and National ID to form a bridge or route to the Internet. If that PC is pwn'd then the hacker can spend months or years working on a way into the National Database.

IPS wants ID card service pilots

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How does this help?

How does this imrove thiings? Is there supposed to be some good come out of this?

Apple rewards developers with bricked iPhone

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IT Angle

Bricked means as electronic as a brick

As an electronic device it's as much use as a brick. However with skill you may be able to unbrick it. Getting to the main circuit board there may well be a J-Tag connection or reset line that can be fed with a signal to bring it back to life.

If it simply requires a new firmware download in the usual way then I would not call it bricked.

UK child database is 'not fit for purpose'

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Black Helicopters

Re: General Election soon

Please vote for who you want rather than who you think has a chance. As with the Internet, if you can't find the web site you want then perhaps there is not one and you should start one. So if the candidate you want is not running then perhaps you should stand.

This government may look incompetant but that might mean you underestime them. Perhaps the bigger adgenda is not whether this database helps children rather does it gather more data on people which can be used to control them?

It is a database afterall, it contains some interesting people. People who's children are disabled are often very strong activists. They have had to fight burocrasy all the way for the drugs and treatments and support their children need. They know how the system works and how to game the system to get what they desparately need. They form groups and organisations and are quite determined and powerful.

Damn right the government wants to have something on them. Even if the software is clunky and ineffective for it's stated purpose.

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