Posts by Wayland Sothcott

Are the ice caps melting?

TV News special

I think it was ITV who did a series of TV News specials from the poles one year. They went to the Arctic in the summer and showed dramatic footage of ice melting with the comentry "Look the ice is melting, sea levels will rise, were all doomed"

Then 6 months later they went to the antarctic during it's summer and reported "Look the ice is melting, sea levels will rise, were all doomed".

The smarter viewers would be aware that this was summer but they did not bother informing the less well informed.

As for the sea level rising, sea ice melting has no effect as it's already in the sea.

Whether global warming is real or not, the reporting was deliberately misleading. People who don't have the time to question all of this info will be misled, which means most people. I dunno where all the Reg readers get so much time. It's a pity the main TV and news people did not spend as much time trying to find the truth as they do trying to get a message across.

Built-in browser expiry proposed to fight botnet menace

Not a new proposal

A similar thing was proposed by an American politition a couple of years ago. Manditory Windows security updates, you can't turn them off. Here is why such a thing is a bad idea.

1. If someone hijacks the process they have manditory access to ALL computers.

2. It gives Microsoft greater power.

3. It's probably illegal to sell crippled software so you will probably need a licence to release any software in future.

4. Windows 98 is hardly affected by viruses at all, since XP is the current target. Forcing everyone to run the same version reduces 'bio-diversity' making everyone valnerable to the same exploits. It also reduces the amount of testing required since it only has to work with the current version.

To encourage browser compatibility you just need to put some checks on some vital websites, like google, show a browser out of date webpage. That way people will either upgrade or boycot your website.

I have a suggestion. Write the software correctly in the first place. Oh but the whole IT industry is in a constant upgrade->bugfix->upgrade-bugfix cycle. If you did not roll out new bugs with the upgrade or new upgrades with the bugfix then the whole thing would stop, with evryone happy with their computers.

Virgin warns 800 punters for file-sharing

Re: BPI - Bunch of Phooking Idiots?

"In their eyes ISP's are responsible for individuals who break the law on their infrastructure or who are using the ISP's 'product'. Does this mean that the Highways Agency are responsible for individuals who break the law on their infrastructure? No. Does this mean that the motor industry is responsible for individuals who joyride, ram raid shops or use their products in daring robberies? No. Does this mean that Kitchen Devils should share some of the responsiblilty for the recent spate of stabbings? No. In ALL cases it is the Police who are responsible for upholding the law and investigating breaches of it."

I agree with you Mungo, that's how it ought to be and how it has been in the past. However times are changing, publicans are responsible for making sure their cleints don't smoke, shops are responsible for making sure I show my ID when buying superglue. With all the "knife crime" cheifs are saying we can use knifes with rounded ends, so that will be the knife makers having to change the knifes. Toyota are working on a breathalyser to be fitted to all cars.

The responsibility for things is shifting away from the users towards the organisations closest to the users. In Texas they are passing a law which says all PC Technicians need a P.I licence. So that they can make sure the users are not doing anything illegal on their computers.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2324220,00.asp

If it works then we will probably see something to that effect in the UK soon.

Eurofighter at last able to drop bombs, but only 'austerely'

So can we bomb Iran yet?

I know that's the point of these aircraft, to attack something. If they can beat F16's then maybe we should attack the USA. Come on, skip all the nerdy part of this computer game and lets gets some action.

UK.gov launches data mash-up competition

Total Information Awareness

T.I.A ofcourse. Link it so you can pick a person and see everything about them from one screen. Even bring up their last CCTV footage or live webcam, turn on the mic in their laptop or mobile phone.

Dismissed deputy head launches legal fight

Want to work with children

Irresponsible pedophiles like to work with children. The ones who know that would be too much temptation would stay away. That still leaves a large proportion of pedophiles preferring school jobs to tax inspection.

Paris looks like Gaol Bate to me.

DOJ sinks another EliteTorrent admin

If it's not against the law..

then keep changing the law until it is against the law.

If it's against the law, then read the law carefully and find another way of doing it.

Classic arms race.

People could always have pressed their own singles, LPs, CD's, DVD's but it was prohibitively difficult. The whole point of computer technology is the processing of information. The recording companies simply have to change their business model if they can't make money whilst pirates exist.

eBay Terror Ambulances of DEATH menace UK - top cops

Freedom to make it up as you go along

It's almost as if a request has gone out, "has anyone got any new laws for us to pass before we go into recess?". "Come on now, someone must need something?"

Police, "Er, how about one banning ex-police vehicles? They could be used to impersonate the police you know."

Gordo's DNA database claims branded 'ridiculous'

Statistical balancing act

Take one slightly dodgy statistic

Make an unreasonable assumption

Balance another dodgy statistic on that assumption

Make another absurd assumption

repeat a few more times then..

Declare the answer 42!

By the way I know of someone who was arrested and did not get DNA Databased. I also know of someone on the stolen MOD computer and someone on the stolen Child Benefit CDs. The MOD computer was being used to collect applications for Barclays Bank accounts from potential recruits. MOD like you to bank with Barclays for some reason. The Laptop was stolen from within side the secure MOD establishment.

If a blood relative is in the DNA database then you are too. They will look for family matches.

Let's face it, we live in a police state that's still under construction. A few good people still hold power but due to health and safety they are being moved out.

Can we have an Under Construction Icon like people had on their websites in the 1990's?

Automated profiling tech is crap, says Home Office

@Graham Marsden

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1744923.stm

It's a good job it did not start a fire or the whole building could have been reduced to rubble.

Force listeners onto DAB by killing FM

DAB is Hi Tech so we should want it

Don't you lot get it? DAB works by computers and digital and everything. Therefore it's a lot better. Granted when it works it sounds the same as FM and when it fails it sounds like bubbling mud.

We must embrace what is new. In the old days I used a casio calculator powered by light. Now I fire up my Laptop and use Windows Calculator. It's much better because my Laptop runs at 1.6GHz and has 1GB RAM, far more than the casio. Yes it takes a while to boot up but the calculator has nearly as many functions as the casio and using the laptop keyboard is almost as good as the casio.

Surely we can embrace progress?

UK clamps down on bus-spotting terror menace

terrorist bus pervert

1. Well if a terrorist wanted to blow up busses then this mans knowledge and photos could be very useful to such a terrorist. That's illegal.

2. If he finds the photos of busses sexy then that's a bit pervy and extreme and is probably illegal too.

With all this stuff that would be useful to both a terrorist and a bus pervert the we have to take no chances and lock him up for 42 days in case he is a terrorist bus pervert. After 42 days he is cured and can be released.

Pirate Bay bitchslaps Swedish law with SSL

Godwin's law

It seems to be related to Moore Law.

The length of a discussion before Nazi's are mentioned is halving every two years.

Once we reach critical mass then we will be in a Nazi police state.

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The war on photographers - you're all al Qaeda suspects now

Re: Are Photographers really a threat?

Well yes they are a threat. They are actually collecting evedence that is not under control of the authorities. If the police want to lie, then it could be inconvenient if someone has a photograph that shows the truth.

That's a bit too "New World Order" even for here. So if I want to be in denial then what should I go with?

1. Oh well with all the paedos and since 9/11 and 7/7 it's good that they are doing this.

2. This story is exaggerated, nothing this bad could possibly be happening because it's this bad. Quid Pro Quo.

If I am really willfully stupid then I would believe both. Oh I feel much better now, for a moment I thought something really horrible, like Nazi Germany was happening.

Stoopid X.T.C face, because I feel fine.

Snoop bill opponents post Swedish spy IDs on net

The 'Chatter' is defening

Look at what this site is filled with. Has it been infiltrated by a bunch of people trying to make it look like everyone believes this stuff? I do think the people who say "get rid of the human rights act" have been shouted down by all the ones who say NO to 42 days. The same seems to be true in the newspaper forums, probably the same small group of people spouting the same stuff and shouting down all the 'lock up all the terrorists without charge' people. Possibly also censureship by the website.

On the other hand maybe The Register is representitive of the majority view, at least of those who have thought about it and pay attention to what's happening.

Even to someone with no clue, mention Health 'n' Safety then stand back and listen.

elf & Safety goggles.

Tory trash talk fails to halt bin bugging plans

WWII people retired

What we have now is government by the nieave. In the past we had people who had been through World War 2, who knew what had been fought for and so made a point of protecting our liberties.

Now we have people who think it's a great new idea to have everyone carry an ID card and keep the data in a big computer in London. IBM did this for the Nazies with punched cards.

We have people who think it's an amazing new policing technique to check people incase they have something illegal. Crime prevention.

These people think that anything they don't like, just make a law against it. Keep it wide and flexible, it will be more versitile that way.

I can think of amazing new technology driven things that solve todays 'very real' problems. How about a chip in every appliance which allows your electricity meter to monitor each one individually. Individually monitored electric would be sold at a heavy discount compared to the old default metred appliances. People would rush out and buy the new cheaper to run gadgets.

THEN the government starts adding environmental surcharges, computer juice costs more than TV juice. In fact they could start charging per minute rather than by power consumption. Too much time on the PC.

You see anyone can come up with a daft scheme using technology to enforce idealogical morals, or at least to tax sin.

Do you know how much of your porn is extreme?

Douglas Adams forrest fire

In one of his books there is a ferocious forrest fire that burns for 4 hours then puts itself out as mandated by law. In our world the law is not that powerful, it's only words.

Without going into amazing detail about how stupid this law is, it obviously is, we should learn the basic moral:

That the government want to make us all criminals with no defence. So they can get us for what ever they like if we cross them in any way.

Pretty much all new ledgeslation comes down to that. I understand that I live as a criminal under sufferance because I am getting away with it. I am guilty until proven innocent because I really am guilty. But I am also innocent until caught, which how most of us are able to live our lives.

For me those seem to be the FACTS. Question is, what do we do about it? I have downloaded the Terror Manual just so I can be sure of being guilty. I expect some of my porn is dodgy too. Perhaps we all ought to do something that is both harmless and totally illegal as a protest. Then we should demand to be arrested for it.

To have selectively enforced laws is a police state.

Another police website hacked

Doublethink

"..when the technological explanation appears and we are assured that whilst the website was hacked, no-one could possibly have wormed their way through to anything more sensitive, there is a credibility gap. One of the biggest obstacles to data centralisation is public confidence. This destroys it."

Yes it destroys public confidence but would that actually be an obstacle to implementing ID cards. Surely the more sites that get hacked the more we need ID cards and scanning. The more DVD's with biometric data they lose the more we need ID cards. The public will be completly convinced we don't want ID cards and the government will be even more convinced we actually want them.

Is it safe to download al Qaeda manuals yet?

I started reading the terror manual

I downloaded the terror manual from the us .gov site and started reading. It's pretty heavy going since it's so boring. Mostly it's stuff usefull to any well disceplined organisation, I hate organised stuff. It's put me right off joining Al Qaeda.

However I think everyone should download one of these manuals and at least try to read it. The idea that knowledge and information is a terrorist crime is just nonsense.

"Section 58 covers the collection or holding of information likely to be useful for terrorism, but doesn't require any specific terrorist intent"

This means that even if you are fighting terror the tools of the job are illegal. Oh I forgot, one rule for white alQaeda and one rule for the police. I keep forgetting that some are above the law.

If men in unmarked black uniforms came with guns to arrest me over this I would piss myself laughing, bring it on you muppets. Then I would have them prosecuted for pointing guns at me.

1,076 developers, 15 years, one open-source Wine

Excellent work

Wine is not just software it's also a body of knowledge as to how Windows actually works. They may know more than Microsoft having had to study things that microsoft have forgotten.

The knowledge can be sliced and diced in different way to make different products. For example the knowledge (I could call it Technology since thats the correct term for technical knowledge) could be used to run important Windows applications on machines far more powerful than anything Windows actually runs on.

I think Windows developers who prefer to develop for Windows should test their own programs under Wine rather than let someone else figue out the problems. It would not take too much work if you regularly tested on Wine during development. That way with very little effort your program would be cross compatable without having to write in Java or recompile source.

Teens use technology to party in strangers' pools

Blue pools?

The skateboarding craze used peoples empty pools in California.

I have often thought that google earth would tell you which neighbours you should try to get invited to their ba-be-q.

In the 1970's we build a pool using some doors and fence posts and sand and an orange tarpaulin. They had run out of blue. This bright orange plastic made the water seem a lot warmer ;-)

Now if people painted their pools green they they would be harder to spot on Google Earth.

Phorm failed to mention 'illegal' trials at Home Office meeting in 2007

The Public love Phorm

People I speak to have not heard of it and don't really get worked up about it. They assume this stuff goes on all the time. If it means better advertising and catching paedophiles they love it. Even a Linux chap I know is in love with BT and all they stand for, he is delighted his comunications are going through Phorm and believes that he has opted out in any case.

Plenty of people in this country think we need to get rid of human rights and we need the police watching everything with do 24/7 on CCTV.

I don't think any ordinary person is going to care until the director of Phorm is caught running a paedophile ring based on snooped data traffic of children. Even then that will be OK because he has a lot of money so is respectable and can be allowed his eccentricities.

Gov claims 'password protection' OK for sensitive docs

Laptop - Desktop - what's the difference?

People love laptops, they are cool. Desktops are so last century, no one wants a big box with a separate screen and loads of messy wires that takes up a desk and therefore a room.

Imagine carrying that lot out of the building. I expect someone helpfully held the door open and maybe carried the printer.

On the otherhand, if they only took the base unit, that would indicate that they wanted the DATA. If they wanted the data then they would spend the time and crack the password. Like I said, if it was a laptop then that's because they wanted a laptop, no one steals a desktop, duh.

If you want data then look in coat pockets for USB sticks and PDAs.

Thief swipes cabinet minister's laptop from Salford office

Biometric scans

There is a difference between a finger scan on your laptop and one the government wants to have from you. Your laptop only checks against the record it holds for your print. If this was validated against a server holding finger scan codes then that's a bit different.

If the National ID becomes your Internet Login and your Carbon Credits and your Credit Card then we are in big trouble.

Allowing the theft may well have been accidental but someone took the decision to go public with this. To what purpose, safe return of the computer? The laptop may just have held correspondance but it could also have held 60,000 records of register of voters she is MP for. That could be some very tasty info.

Useful for terrorists

Would the laptop itself be useful to a terrorist? They could use it to download bomb making instructions or even adapt it into a bomb.

USAF ramps up kill-bot fleet following Gates sackings

Any type of face hair

Not having to wear a breathing mask the pilots could grow really amazing beards and tashes.

As for pilots, you could insert these into an online war game as a mission. Online gamers would be quing up, virtually, to fly these from their bedrooms. If you gave them guns then even better they could shoot things.

Malware not man blamed in child abuse download case

@RickyTheRiot

I think the important thing here is that he got off. I think there could be a lot more to this than a virus. He could have been set up. However if he claimed that then he would have a lot more to prove to avoid conviction. On the other hand if his previous computer broke then perhaps that was also compromised.

Making a crime out of possesion of images is stretching the point anyway. Who was hurt by this? You could say the children in the photos, it's not nice if people hold such pictures of you. But it does not mean the person with the pictures caused any harm.

This is further true of paedo artwork which is fantasy and if it's not based on a real person, then how can you say there is a victim? This is also illegal to own.

I would say the law is more interested in making things illegal than prosecuting people who cause harm to others.

I seems to me that the creator of the virus was gaming the system to cause harm to people. If the laptop was being used as a porn server then they were just deflecting the law away from themselves.

Info on missing White House emails to remain missing

Spy novel

Straight out of a spy novel. Missing information right around the leadup to the Iraq war. Surely they must know how guilty this makes them look? Next we will be hearing that they got some terrorists to crash a plane into someones office to get rid of paper evidence (I just made that up, nothing that wierd could happen).

Davis faces North Korean victory margin in civil liberty vote

42 days, what's the question?

If the question is prefixed with "should we let terrorists human rights take precident over ordinary peoples right to life?" you get yes to 42 days

If the question is "should we lock up very bad people and delay charging them for up to 42 days then let them go if we can't find evidence?" the answer is no to 42 days.

One really important issue here with two parts.

1. Should terrorists be treated differently to any other bad guys?

2. Can we decide which category a bad guy is in?

If one imagines a huge well connected terrorist organisation that stops at nothing and can have anyone whacked at a moments notice then we can't afford to pussy foot around giving people bail.

If one agrees with various EU top nobs that people who critisize the EU are a type of terrorist then the crime of sedious libel could have you locked up for 42 days then released.

UK culture sec wants a public service web

They can regulate it!

It amazes me that they still have not broken the Internet. There are little bits that are broken, like using skype on a mobile phone, that does not work as it would on the real Internet.

However with all the big ISPs gobbling up the smaller ones and many of them talking to people like Phorm, it may soon break.

When I say it will break, I mean that instead of being able to visit any website or any server in the world, we will be restricted for our own benefit and safety.

The Internet does not really have a bandwidth problem that can't be solved, unlike terestrial TV which is limited by the radio spectrum. With the Internet another cable can always be added where there are bottlenecks.

The Bandwidth problem the Internet does have is that there is just too much to look at and too much to control.

The Internet also has a credibility problem with the TV watching News Paper reading public. "I read it on the Internet" does not carry as much cred as "I saw it on the News". The responsibility in deciding if a story should be believed lies with the reader. However with TV you may not get the chance to see the story. I personally believe that you are more likely to learn the truth on the Internet because it is unfiltered.

I think part of the Internet's credibility problem comes from the TV and News Papers themselves. Oh don't believe stuff on the Internet, read it in our Paper.

Perhaps the government could offer some sort of kite mark indicating that the site is regularly checked for standards. However that's going to cost someone and I can see many sites not wanting such government approval.

I expect the first people to want Filtered Internet will be companies who already net nanny their employees usage. Then parents will want it. Then the big ISP's will implement it by default. Then Jacqui Smith will say that all Paedos have to be on Filtered Internet. This will be the IPv6 version which requires the thumbscan public key address packet.

Eventually no one will look at your old style website on the old IPv2 network because they won't have access. Only a few hackers and pervs will still use it. You could move to IPv6 server but it costs a lot and you need a licence.

Maybe time to leave the Internet.

Biggles battles Yanks for right to sport tash

So General Burnside would have to shave?

Americans have some famous facial hair. However some of the tashes in Wyatt Earp were a bit over the top: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LRVhtVCfzo8 They would have suited John Major.

UK appeal court dismisses mod chip conviction

@frank denton wrt54g

also www.dd-wrt.com is the one I like since it's very easy to use and they have squeezed it into the smaller memory size.

AC, come off it, since when has smaller FLASH and smaller RAM been cheaper when those sizes are obsolete. Keeping the design exactly the same would have cut down on design costs and using the same memory it would have got cheaper anyway. In fact the origonal boards were tracked out for larger memory. Even worse they fit larger memory but cut the address line to reduce the memory size, this can be fixed with some soldering.

Trust me the reduction in memory size was not to save costs. This is an example of a company battling to retain control of it's products. They are deluded since allowing 3rd party firmware did not do the PC any harm and piracy is the secret of success of the PlayStation over the Nintendo 64.

The problem is that it changes the whole industry. A cheap router is then capable of out performing a far more expensive product. Answer: make faster hardware that still compatible with wrt54g. I was involved with a group who almost did this. Except we realised that Mikrotik do it far better than we could.

Finally common sense on this issue

When you by some electronic hardware, you own it. If you want to modify it or upgrade it then fine. If you turn it into a gun, a transmitter or a vehicle then you might expect to cross the law. But if all it's doing is computing stuff then how can that be illegal?

I expect this battle is not over. Companies will try to bring in laws that make it illegal to modify a product in any way. I am thinking of Apple with it's iPhone. (The Linksys WRT54G is another one.) This is a joke since Apple started as a couple of hackers who joined a hackers club and built their own computer. This culture is still going strong and is the origin of everything techie.

BBC deploys the Tw*t-O-Tron

Have Your Say is well moderated...

since they no longer publish anything I say.

UK civil servant leaves Top Secret Iraq war intelligence documents on a train

Sitting on the fence

If someone gets up to leave the carriage and I see they have left something, I let them know before they get off. If they have already left then I will pick up the item and hand it into lost property.

However if I had an orange envelope marked top secret and the person who left it was gone. I would possibly try and return it to it's home to save anyone getting a bollocking. However however there are several other things to consider:

1. Was it left there accidentally on purpose?

2. Is there a reward?

3. Do I read it?

4. Do I get it published?

5. Am I in danger?

I do hope the BBC read this since that would seem to be the point of this event.

However since David Kelly the BBC have gone all soft, not wanting to get murdered.

Linksys revamps WRT54G wireless router

Linksys miss the whole point, yet again

Linksys are in a battle against the very hackers who made the WRT54G possible in the first place. The reason the original was popular was it's Linux operating system, GPL code and hardware with 32MB Flash and 8MB RAM. The new device is cut right back with 8MB Flash and 2MB RAM in an attempt to stop us putting linux on it. Also they have removed the external antenna connectors so now you have to solder your own connectors on to use an outdoor antenna. Looking at the hardware they seem to still have an onboard switching regulator, which is required when running power up the Ethernet cable successfully.

So really what is the point of this device? You are better of using the compatible WHR-G54 from Buffalo for hacking. If you don't plan on hacking, there are better routers than the WRT54G which is pretty old now.

Linksys do make the WRT54GL which is the old style one with Linux that is there for you to hack. Unfortunately these just happened to be unreliable compared to the original units which can still be bought on ebay.

Sanyo camcorders turns to tracking technology

Look at the ZOOM!

A 10x optical zoom is the same strength as binoculars. My Panasonic TZ3 still camera has this feature although it uses part of the zoom range to take wide shots.

This looks like a nice bit of kit. However you will probably get tazered for using it just because it's a video camera, let alone that it looks a bit like a gun.

The New Order: When reading is a crime

Even the jobs worths agree

I am finding that the people who carry out the orders handed down agree that they are stupid. They are actually supportive when I decline to comply with their silly rules. It's like they don't have the corrage themselves but like someone who does. It's similar to when you ask people to sponsor your crazy charity stunt, they give you money and clap and are happy that it's you and not them.

Eventually they cannot avoid the action, they get a fine for putting the wrong thing in their dustbin and then they are prepared to join you.

Qinetiq ships first 'Transformer' war-droid

Belkin54g

The default setting for it's radio link?

Swedish authorities pull plug on female Elvis

Elvis caught in Sweedens Spam filter

Is this something to do with their email snooping software. Anyone called Elvis would be ignored and therefore escape tax?

9/11 an inside job, says Irish pop folkster

@Chris, Onionman and Ign R. Amis

You win. Well done. Bye

@Onionman

Go and discover it for yourself.

Honestly, all these skeptics under psudonoms rather than their real name. They must be really scared of us CT Nuts. Grow some balls Onionman.

I don't want to believe it

"If you want to find explanations based on actual science, actual math, and actual engineering knowledge of how the towers could have collapsed without the involvement of explosives, the information is out there and easy to find.

But that's not what you want. The uncomfortable truth for conspiracy nuts is that they *want* to believe this stuff."

I already knew all the anti-terror bulshite would happen. It's just an extension of all the nanny Health and Safety. However I was not expecting what happened to my opinions in January this year.

Frankly I was looking for porn on YouTube, girls with big girl attributes. I saw one of the most watched videos was a 9/11 thing with the twin towers, so without knowing what I was letting my self in for I clicked it. I had a eurika moment, no I did not run down the street naked. It was not a joyous moment, it was an "Oh hell, now it all makes horrible sense" monent. Suddenly it was exposed, staring me in the face. I felt the floor had just dropped out from beneeth my feet.

It was not like believing in Spooks or Dr Who. This was real all the way through. It left me with two choices, Red Pill, Blue Pill type of thing. I could take the blue pill and believe that the buildings pancaked or the red pill and go and find out what really happened and what it all means.

I obviously would not want to go back to believing the 9/11 lie we are told but then learning the truth is much harder and quite frightening.

It really really is a big deal. I really do appreciate the magnatude of what I am saying is true. It's no small thing like did someone take a bribe or not. This affects pretty much everything we do about terrorizum, freedom, media, the future.... Everything.

Red heart because it looks like a red pill.

@Motive

What are you on about? 3000 or so dead is fairly evil but not the most evil thing. Pretty evil for one event, but wars rage for years and more people are killed. Bush is not particulaly evil and should not scare you that much. He is not the master criminal, he is just the friendly face of a bigger plan. I see what you are doing, saying that Bush could not do it so it did not happen. Ofcourse Bush could not do it. All that was required is that he allowed others to get on with it.

Dismissing the fact that it happened based on lack of motive is pretty lame. The WMD was required because 9/11 did not link that well to Iraq. The buildings were detonated, now figure out what happened.

By the way, it has been discovered, dummy. It's just too unbelievable due to it's scale and implications.

So you bring in New Orleans Katrina as if this was a big cock up. If 9/11 happened the way I am saying then you would expect New Orleans to happen the way it did. If on the other hand 9/11 was a cockup then New Orleans was a cockup. The comparison proves nothig except that you would bring this in as if it means something.

I admit I am fairly well versed in this stuff, as it seems are you. The difference is that I believe what I am saying where as you are simply trying to debunk me.

We get into circular arguments. Each point of view can be justified. It's important to start with some facts. The falling buildings could not have fallen like that without carefully placed explosive charges. That is what I regard as FACT. Everything else is subordinate to that. Saying that no one could be that evil does not explain the fall of the buildings. Saying it takes weeks to lay charges, so what, is that not the main point?

Saying that there would have been a huge paper trail assumes that it was done by the book.

Like I say, start with the destruction of the buildings. It's very simple, they were detonated. Now look for the paper trails, the workers wiring the building, the security guards, the explosions that would have been heard, signs of explosions, how the steel melted etc.

But then you know the truth, you just try to debunk as your duty.

@Ign R. Amis

Way ahead of you. Yes of course it took weeks to plant the charges. Yes ofcourse there would have been massive disruption in the buildings. You would not expect them to sneek in unnoticed. There was noise, dust, disruption. The conditions were bearly tollerable for the tennants. The cleaning staff had been withdrawn, the tennants were doing their own dusting. Some were moved to different floors. There were powercuts at short notice. Security staff were changed. But then you seem pretty well informed so you probably know all this.

The buildings were being rewired for better networking. Many floors were unocupied. Plenty of opportunity to use lots of wire.

Yes there were some significant differences between a standard demolition and the twin towers. Standard starts at the bottom and the solid part of the building falls down into it. The twin towers distructed from the top, probably a much less efficent method but more convincing since the top was where the damage was.

Oh and the Pentagon. There should have been a bigger hole and some video of a plane. This is the Pentagon not my house, there would have been some decent pictures, Oh and a plane.

Black Helecopter because Ign T Amis might possibly be a spook.

Conventional Skeptics think

that because the claims are outragious and they come from a pop singer that you would have to be mad to believe them.

However it is overwhelmingly obvious that the buildings were brought down under demolition charges. Hard to believe perhaps when you have the BBC telling you some utter rubbish whilst you are watching it.

Just go to YouTube and watch the footage of the colapse. If you find the mention of YouTube blows any credibility, think again. Re-examine your reasons for dismissing it.

You don't have to swallow the full Alex Jones extermination of 2/3 of the world population to have a look at the twin towers destruction. Simple physics and readily available video (which you saw live on 11th Spet 2001) shows 400 meter tall buildings collapsing in 10 seconds.

Think about this, if you dropped a brick off the top it would take 10 seconds to hit the ground. A really huge brick would not fall any faster. If you dropped the top 10 floors onto the rest of the building, do you think it would fall through the rest of the floors just as fast as falling through air?

Ignorance means to IGNORE. If you don't know that the WTC was detonated by demolition explosives then you have ignored the quite obvious evedence. Instead you have chosen to believe in Father Christmas because it feels better. (Father Christmas gives you presents provided you believe)

The reaslisation that Father Christmas does not come down the chimney and 9/11 was an inside job will strike you pretty hard. What you believe after that is anyones guess, that's why we need a real enquiry.

@Stuart Van Onselen

Stuart,

If you have time watch Loose Change Final Cut at

http://wearechange.org.uk/research/research.html

Conspiricy Theorys tend to all get lumped together. If you believe the world trade center was brought down with explosives you are expected to believe that Elvis works down the chip shop and underneth his rubber mask the prime minister is a green lizard. These things may or may not be true but are not relevant to 9/11

Fear of being lumped in with nutcases should not make you reject evidence. Neither should the fear of what might turn out to be true.

There is a fine line in the 9/11 thing. Planes or No Planes. I believe that planes hit the twin towers but a missile hit the pentagon. There is a whole spectrum of theory backed with 'evidence'. It's very important that you can establish some actual facts. You can easily prove to yourself the FACT the each building fell in 10 seconds. That is not disputed, no one is trying to claim otherwise. The official reason for the collapse is rather contrived. The fact that the collapse happened tends to support the official reason in a circular argument. The claim that the buildings were wired for demolition is totally outrageious. But if they were you would get the effect seen on the day.

If demolition experts wanted the buildings to come down from the top rather than the bottom, they could do so. Yes they would have to get rid of the supporting steel structure. Quite possibly it would require thousands of degrees to melt it. Quite possibly you might notice some explosions.

Is there any evedence that steel melted. Yes, that's not in despute.

What about explosions. Yes plenty of witnesses report them and evedence also.

What about the planing of the explosives that would have taken a lot of work. Well there are people who say a lot of work was happening in the buildings for weeks before hand.

The only real thing stopping this theory from being accepted is how bad it would be if it were true. Things can't possibly be that bad without us knowing. So many people would have to be in on it that it would be impossible. In fact you can get people to go along with things on a need to know basis. The terrorists dutyfully fly the planes. The demolition people are told that the buildings will be evacuated, they don't know about the terror plot. Plus they have broken a few laws and if they don't want to get arrested they had better play along. The airforce are diverted on a training excercise very similar to what actually took place.

You see, very few people needed to know that people would die. The terrorists would have known. They would have been congratulating themselves on having fooled the USA and having people on the inside. They would not have know that they were being used.

UK electricity crisis over - for now

Of UPS and oil filled transformers

A UPS or Switched Mode PSU will draw a bigger slice of current in order to maintain it's output. Dropping volts will increase the current drawn by computer equipment. Probably also true of every electronic device connected to the mains. However resistive loads will use less power when the volts are dropped. Cookers and kettles and heaters.

I know that EDF engineers are very wary of oil filled substation gear. If the oil level gets too low or if the oil is contaminated then the thing could blow up in a big fireball. Just to prove the point an Engineer from Colchester was killed when one he was working on in Chelmsford exploded. Maintenance on these units is vital and I suspect the French have been skimping on the maintenance budget for greater profits. That's one of the advantages of privitisation into foregin hands.

Police protester snap did not breach rights

All under the same law

If his photo was taken in the street then that's acceptable. After all, I might want to take photos of people in the street, I assume that is still allowed. He asked an objectionable question at the event so the police followed him and tried to find out who he was. That seems a bit invasive. They are not storing the picture however they will use the picture in case of problems in the future, so they are storing the picture, but thats OK because they are not storing the picture? Are they saving the picture?

EU project scans air passengers for terrorist tendencies

Passenger wristbands

For your safety and to speed boarding, please wear this wristband boarding pass. In case of a terror attack the terrorist will be disabled by a harmless tazer shock from the wristband. Cameras throughout the aircraft will monitor for terrorist activity and automatically issue the signal to the wristband.