@JB (again) - Taking bets on whether you read it properly
Sorry but your are missing the point I am making (or trying to make), I am NOT having a go at KC's service which I think on the whole is good (repeat for the hard of reading GOOD) based on having been a customer since the days of dial-up.
The point I am making is that yet again they are using the fact that they have a "captive audience" to make money from said captive audience without publicising either their actions OR more importantly the opt out from it. That to me smacks of the unfair use of their monopoly position in the market.
As for the following .....
""I understand you cant change the network provider away from KC, just like everyone outside of Hull cant change there's from BT! BT own most of the UK network, KC own the Kingston-upon-Hull network. i.e. If you use SKY for internet connectivity you must have a BT phone line, if you use Karoo then you must have a KC phone line, the fact that no other ISP has obtained wholesale ISP access from KC surely can not be put on the shoulders of KC, they are equal >lower than the current BT wholesale prices...""
Again I am sorry but you might at least get your facts straight before flaming my post.
1.. just because a customer has a BT phoneline DOES NOT prevent them changing ISP if they dont like the service they are getting from their current provider. ie Dont like SKY... change to tiscali, AOL, whichever. THIS IS NOT REPEAT NOT THE CASE WITH A KC FONELINE!! If you dont believe me then try it.
2. In the same way, a customer on a BT foneline who is unhappy with their service CAN change his fone service supplier to whichever fone company he likes. AGAIN THIS AINT THE CASE WITH A DISSATISFIED KC CUSTOMER !! Again go try it.
3.. On the subject of wholesale pricing. I was told by OFCOM that "they couldnt "force" KC into the LLU system therefore a given "interested party would probably have to install their own servers etc or pay Karoos prices for access to their systems and then install the correspoding hardware" That being the case it therefore means an uneconomic investment is required. And this I suspect is why KC are currently supposed to be under investigation for "restrictive practices"
4.. Ref the following .....
My point was if you are unhappy about having DNS provide this service then change your DNS settings to something that you are happy to use! I have...
You or I might have the tech savvy to do this....how many of the "average ability users" have the same amount of savvy ?? Not as many as YOU may assume Methinx