@ Anon Coward
> Me thinks we'll need a new mobe icon
Yes!
And quite naturally, it should have a celebrity holding a Jesus Mobe inverted ....
Posts by Jeroen Braamhaar
207 publicly visible posts • joined 22 Oct 2007
Mobe, mobe, mobe. There - we've said it
Brown reveals road pricing, emissions plans
Apple's Leopard rejects latest version of Java
Monday 29th October 2007 11:18 GMT 
@Peter Labrow
If it was a true "new OS" you'd be right.
However, one might reasonably expect an incemental update on an existing OS to not break development tools so badly ... or to have such issues with installation. (I won't vouch for the presence of 3rd party tools given how badly those are coded sometimes - but in most of THOSE cases the finger can be pointed back at the OS developers for not leaving enough application/driver space/documentation as well)
I almost daresay, Apple has taken a page out of the book from the Robbers from Redmond when it comes to shifting blame ....
Korean software firm sues Microsoft
Wednesday 24th October 2007 15:41 GMT 
Just Installing a 3rd party app isn't the solution ...
... because even though you may get a better experience, the medriocre Microsoft tools ARE STILL THERE and you STILL have to maintain, update and secure them lest they become avenues of approach for ne'er-do-wells intent on damage.
Worse, some developers use portions of them in their own code to handle stuff (AIM for example uses MSIE to serve you those annoying ads) so they don't have to code them - but their shortcut can become *your* problem really quickly.
Again, it's not the bundling that's the issue, it's the fact the default MS tools are integrated pieces that CANNOT be uninstalled or entirely removed that's the issue here.
Just about -EVERY- OS to date has had its default toolset for the users, the only difference being that "genuine" replacement used to be heck of a lot easier ...
Yes ?
Wednesday 24th October 2007 13:46 GMT
There's no crime in bundling tools ...
Because it creates an "out-of-the-box" usable system.
The crime is in the integration factor.
Take Linux - there's very few tools or pieces you can't chuck out and replace with something else of your own choice (perhaps not very easily or without a glossy point-and-drool interface, but, still) but in Windows a lot of these tools are *integrated* into the operating system, or can't be uninstalled or properly replaced with 3rd party tools. This is the meat of the matter.
Notice you still *CANNOT* uninstall Internet Explorer, Media Player and Messenger - yes, you *CAN* install further 3rd party tools to replace the functions, but you cannot effectively get fully rid of them - only shove them into the background, from whence they WILL come kicking and screaming at the least opportune moments ....
I don't think there's *ANY* need to remind anyone of the (lack of) quality and resilience of Microsoft tools when faced with exploits ...
Toshiba: integrated HD DVD would 'limit' Xbox experience
Microsoft will not appeal EU monopoly fine
Monday 22nd October 2007 15:21 GMT 
Indeed!
"Kroes predicted that the agreement would profoundly affect the software industry for years to come."
Indeed - given we're already stuck with the *next* boondoggle to come out of Redmond, and the pittance of a fine they may pay in the end (if ever - they're masters at dragging their feet until regulators give up) will soon be recouped out of the "revised" royalty/licensing fees they're going to foist on developers.
In the meantime the only consumer choice is whether they want or don't want the Aero interface - and the only "flourishing and competitive environment" MS talks about will be Windows developers braining other Windows developers over who will pay their licensing fee the first to get their product to market.
Awesome. One might almost say, nothing has changed except for the paperwork.
Biting the hand that feeds IT
