* Posts by Jove

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Adobe results show it is still creaming those subscriptions but its share price fell – why?

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Re: Optional

... or simple stop whinging like an entitled free-loader and learn to do with-out, find an alternative, or write your own.

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Re: Old school

... or slightly more quaint - from a cassette tape?

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Re: Only the honest Americans are paying the SaS game...

Yes, it is a bit of a problem in that part of the world.

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"I don't understand how they can market something being only as expensive as 'a cup of coffee a day'"

They appear to be charging about $2.50 per working day which seems to be less than that cup of desiccated camel droppings call a Tall Coffee Frappuccino.

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Re: Optional

You could always suggest that they introduce a "charge by the hour" billing model

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Re: Lawsuits

"They threatened everyone with a lawsuit if they didn't upgrade their Adobe products to the latest versions"

No they did not. They warned users that the risked legal action from third-parties for the software components that were no longer licensed.

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What you describe only works if the vendor has a monopoly of the market segment or a dominant position - the SAS model is not the root of the problem if the vendor demurs on evolving their product.

Apple tells European Commission it's nutty for slapping €13bn tax bill on Irish subsidiary

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Re: An an Irishman

Typical behaviour - resorting to posting bigoted and factually selective comments on the historic relations when your vacuous arguments are exposed and exhausted.

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Re: Map comment

Indeed - Mayo and its people are the best part of the Republic.

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Re: No problem

No, but it is illegal under USA and I think Canadian food regulations.

Never mind, we will still make money out of trading and funding EU debt which is doing very well thank you. :)

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Re: But is there a case to answer ...

No, I still have a fully functioning intellect, unlike a few of the other commentators on this forum. :)

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Re: But is there a case to answer ...

You can deny it all you like, but it does not make it untrue.

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Re: The government can get fucked too for refusing to bill Apple

Except that Ireland was not cheating.

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Re: welcome to move their European operations to the UK

... and yet Apple is not the only EU-based organisation that has chosen to re-domicile in the UK following the commencement of the UK's exit.

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Re: An an Irishman

... and yet the evidence is there for those that care to see it ;)

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Re: An an Irishman

People, bots, and Guardian rag employees can down-vote all they like but you can not change the laws of physics.

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Re: Ireland would never get to keep the $13 billion

Both Apple and the Government of the Irish Republic are challenging the judgement - Ireland because of the risk of a precedent being set by which Ireland - and all other EU Member States - lose control over its corporate tax rate which leads to the "levelling of the playing field" that will see its rates go from 12.5% to closer to the French 34%.

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Re: An an Irishman

"Well that's what they voted for when they joined the EU."

No, it is not what they voted for; Ireland joined the Common Market in 1973 - a trading block, not a sovereign state. Ireland voted for the Lisbon Treaty the second time around but that did not cover the EU taking control of taxation matters in sovereign member states.

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Re: 'defies reality and common sense'

"I see, you're obviously being a little thick, this is about 'fair competition' between member states, something the EU28 agreed would be policed by the EU."

Except that it is not; the arrangement was legal under Irish and International Tax law, taxation is outside the remit of the EU, Member States have not pooled their sovereignty over taxation, the EU is arguing that Ireland should have considered the earnings of Apple businesses not domiciled in Ireland not the actual offer, and the EU is attempting to apply a judgement retrospectively.

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Re: 'defies reality and common sense'

Indeed, but the Remain Campaign are generally ignorant of what they are supporting anyway.

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Re: "they can apply different tax rates to people earning different salaries"

"Sure, but the rules must be in law, compatible with EU rules, and equal for everyone."

But they were.

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Re: 'defies reality and common sense'

The EU judgement did not question the rate offered, but was suggesting that the offer should have consider revenues not passed through the Ireland domiciled businesses.

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Re: 'defies reality and common sense'

Yet there was no state aid given that this legal under Irish tax laws. That is why Ireland is challenging the judgement.

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Re: 'defies reality and common sense'

Taxation laws are outside the remit of the EU. The arrangement was legal under Irish and international law. Engage.

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Re: 'defies reality and common sense'

Just what do you think would be the impact of such actions?

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Re: 'defies reality and common sense'

The EU risks sanctions, job losses, and the collapse of Member State banks all for the goal of building the empire.

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Re: 'defies reality and common sense'

Ireland did not do anything illegal, and it complied with international tax law. Apple did not do anything illegal by taking advantage of what was on offer.

The EU is interfering in the matter of taxation which is outside of its remit and applying judgement retrospectively.

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Re: 'defies reality and common sense'

People, bots, and Guardian rag employees can down-vote but you can not change the laws of physics.

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Re: If it wasn't for the tax advantages of being in Ireland, none of the big companies...

Add to that the Netherlands, Cyprus, much of the Nordic members, etc.

The issue is not English - that is widely spoken, the issues are technical expertise, corporate law, taxation, other costs of investment/operations, attitudes and get-up & go.

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Re: "the classic dodge, the Double Dutch Irish Sandwich"

In English please.

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Re: Ireland's taxes are within it's [sic] remit

Except that there is no evidence for the political agenda you mention - that is just hard-left agenda narrative.

Switzerland has voted twice to reject the EUs interference.

Others are reforming tax policy - but mainly due to changes in the USA. The main issue here is that the EU is seeking to extend its remit into matters of tax via the back door - an area that teh Federalists see as their remit.

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Re: Ireland's taxes are within it's [sic] remit

Indeed.

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Re: Ireland's taxes are within it's [sic] remit

Except that there was no subsidy - the tax applied to the revenue passed through the Irish businesses which is lawful under international laws.

If the EU continues down this route there is no reason why the USA and others can not impose sanctions on EU businesses.

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Re: Ireland's taxes are within it's [sic] remit

Indeed; this exercise is aimed at eliminating the Irish Low Tax regime so as to "level the playing field" - up to French and German rate levels; those businesses will reconsider their position when rates go from 12.5% to 34%

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Re: I'm quite sure Apple thinks it's not a special treatment....

Unluckily for Ireland, Vestager is still there.

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Re: Ireland's taxes are within it's [sic] remit

Nope, sorry: it is not about a subsidy, it is the EU trying to force Ireland to change it's tax policy to include taxation of non-resident business income.

So in short - it is the EU interfering in a sovereign tax matter - that is why Ireland is appealing the judgement.

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Re: An an Irishman

As far as Ireland is concerned, the EUR 13 Billion will be beneficial as it would allow it to avoid or at least cover the cost of the EUR 4 Billion bailout that has been lined-up for it, but the problem is that allowing the EU to interfere in it's sovereign tax laws means that it's competitiveness and attractiveness to both USA and other non-EU domiciled firms that trade in the EU is on the line. That would not go down well in a country that has still not recovered from the last financial collapse.

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Re: An an Irishman

That would be regressive, and selective. It would no doubt bring sanctions on EU businesses - possibly quite severe - such as blocking sales of microprocessor technology or restrictions on what businesses are allowed to export to the EU - especially given that Apple has not broken international taxation laws.

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Re: An an Irishman

Apple is welcome to move their European operations to the UK should the EU continue down the path of their anti-business doctrine.

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Re: 'defies reality and common sense'

... but the tax is applied to the operations of a company based in Ireland, not to the international operations of Apple.

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Re: 'defies reality and common sense'

Indeed; The EU Commission is trespassing into areas beyond anti-competitive matters into tax rates applied by Member States to businesses based in the territories.

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Re: 'defies reality and common sense'

"The EU addressing the issue (at long last) is a step in the right direction.

Yet tax rates are not within the EU's remit - the Member States retain sovereignty over their taxes.

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Re: The tax powers-that-be should just wipe out this "licensing" scam

Who said that Apple was doing anything illegal?

Ireland 's taxes are within it's remit and Apple has done nothing more than taken advantage of what is on offer. The fault instead lies with the EU for entering an area that is outside of it's remit.

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But is there a case to answer ...

... given that the EU Commission is arguing that this was unfair and anti-competitive State-aid, yet this is a matter of Corporation Tax rates which is not within the EU's remit and and entirely within the sovereign jurisdiction of the Republic of Ireland?

Eco-activists arrested by Brit cops after threatening to close Heathrow with drones

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Re: Good work MET Police

Just to check if the Guardian mob are still being paid to police the forum and down-click any comments that are incompatible with their latest narrative:

Their prison time can be funded by confiscating the funds of their terrorist organisation.

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Re: So ... any constructive suggestions, then?

And?

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Re: Clearly sounds like the majority of commentards here won't be affected by climate change.

You seem very confident of the predictions regarding the future.

The same can be said of your expectations of the impact the proposed initiatives would have on the supposed problem.

There is little that can be done for the younger generations while points of view are repressed for the sake of conformance to the narrow dogma of the few.

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Re: privileged fantasy...

As I said, you live in a fantasy world - one which is disengaged from the realities of over population, and and high density mega cities.

UK.gov's smart meter cost-benefit analysis for 2019 goes big on cost, easy on the benefits

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Re: SMETS2?

TLTR: Just post a link to this drivel on your own blog, then we can all ignore it.

Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Google told: If you could cough up a decade of your internal emails, that'd be great

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Re: Wait...

Oxfam.

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