
......unless it's Carling
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^ That'll likely get me some downvotes.
I won't deny that their computers are rather lovely from an engineering and design perspective. Had and still have a 2011 Macbook Pro (running Ubuntu now). It's a beautifully built machine with a screen, keyboard and touchpad that make it feel impressively modern for its age.
However, it feels that the adage "A fool and his money are soon parted" is something Apple have taken on wholeheartedly in the past decade or more.
M$ get castigated and rightly so for their stupid W11 hardware requirements - but Apple have been doing that for years with forced obsolescence, on occasion with machines barely 5 or 6 years old. My own macbook was obsoleted in 2017 when they removed support for the model in OSX, a laptop that cost over £900.
Beats me how anyone can realistically justify the initial outlay on anything that lasts such a short span of time, especially for the price. I certainly wasn't going to buy another apple product after that.
But AI must mean its better, right?
Right?
If anything maybe it's a blessing that the Copilot+ hardware is (for now) way out of the price range of anyone that may expect me to provide tech support for a W11 machine in the future. When next October rolls around I hope to have moved off to Linux Mint or Ubuntu - W10 can squat in a closed off VM somewhere just in case I need it for something.
Not looking forward to the enforced upgrade that will eventually roll around at work (although I will miss my old faithful 2014 i7 HP tower). Certainly intend to stay on W10 for as long as I can get away with it.
Old laptop suggestion is a good one.
I acquired a 2015 HP Elitebook with a i5-5200U, no or RAM SSD or battery. £40 off the Fleabay spares or repair section. Bumped the ram up to the 16GB max with some spare modules I had lying around, threw in a 500GB SSD and bought a brand new battery off iFixit (Battery and bottom cover are tool-free removal, HP designed it rather well). Was also pleased to find it was the posh model with the 1080p IPS screen.
Running Mint XFCE, it feels just as sprightly as my two year old W10 work laptop (Dell Latitude 11th gen i7) with comparable 5ish hour battery life. It's a lot quieter and cooler running than the Dell, and has proper trackpad buttons rather than a clickpad - what's not to like?
I got a 13" MacBook Pro back in 2011 for my college studies (at the time the family computer was a mac mini). The intel IGPU was never going to be great, but it could sort of run WoW and a few other games. Sadly Apple didn't seem to have realised that computers run really hot when they don't have any ventilation in the casework whatsoever. After a year or two of that treatment I more or less cooked it....no, they're really not suited for gaming.
On a more pleasing note it still survives as a daily driver, running Ubuntu 24.04 with no issues.
Gaming these days is done on a W10 desktop but I'm increasingly building up the confidence to switch it to a good solid Linux distro.
Thanks Liam for the suggestions of the "atomic budgie" spin. Set it up on a "newer" spare laptop (i5-5200U, 16GB RAM) and finding it very easy to set up and use....Budigie seems like a nice mixture of attractive UI yet nowhere near as heavy as GNOME or KDE. All very responsive and slick.
So far setting it up for my usual "daily driver" stuff it has been pretty straightforward - mostly used the terminal to install stuff but nothing so far that you couldn't do via GUI for those who find terminals a bit scary...
I've noticed people have started to use it for eBay listings too.
It's a wonderful way to ensure the specs in the description don't match the photos, but will tell me that a scruffy 10 year old HP Elitebook is "the perfect stylish companion for home, office and travel."
Just before leaving work today I noticed copilot trying to sneakily install itself on the start menu of my elderly W10 work PC....if it's not M$'s machine, they're definitely treating it as their property. It's genuinely the behaviour I'd expect from fscking malware.
Going to uninstall it in the morning (or at the very least break the sw to the extent it doesn't work)....I already know that reporting it to IT will be enough of an excuse for them to bin my nice powerful desktop i7 and try to swap it for an overheating Dell laptop like my colleagues suffer with....
I have owned a late 2011 intel Macbook Pro 13" from new, bought when the Retina macbooks hit the market and still use it.. It got dragged out into the light from under the bed where it had sat for a few years, and refurbished heavily. Found it Incredibly easy to service, upgrade the RAM, fit a brand new battery and swap the spinning rust for an SSD (pleasingly it used a completely standard SATA interface). Installed Ubuntu on it and use it daily - the only complaint is that it runs a little hot and loud due to no ventilation on the bottom casing.
The "Retina" model in 2012 was the start of the decline at Apple with proprietary SSD's and non-upgradable RAM.
If I'd bought that machine instead it would have gone off to landfill long ago.
Stuck with Mozilla browser, then Firefox, for pretty much those 20 years (used to keep the portable version on a USB pen drive so I could use it on school PC's rather than put up with the trash that was IE6).
Still use it today at work and at home, Chrome has never felt "quite right" in comparison, and I'm sure web pages appear less readable somehow when I've tried it.
As that sad clown continues to thrust more and more of himself into the limelight, it appears the only thing he understands involves preening his own ego.
Much like donald, he throws teddy out of the pram when his dumb decisions don't make him popular and/or lose him yet more money.
Maybe they should both fuck off to Mars as "test pilots" for Elmo's rocket?
Exactly the experience with my parents.
It wasn't until last year that I realised my dad's elderly iMac was way past EOL for updates from Apple. He has eventually agreed after much explanation that it requires replacement with something that is more secure and up to date (never mind the HDD that must be getting increasingly untrustworthy inside). Beyond home finances / web browsing and his music / photo collections he doesn't use it, his daily driver usually being an iPad. A bit like an iPad, he'd rather a computer that "just works".
Mum took about a year of convincing to replace her ten year old android phone with something newer that could actually run things like whatsapp and allow her to keep in touch with everyone easily.
There are plenty out there who don't have someone tech-savvy to assist with replacing their out of date stuff...
My favourite single point of failure so far had to be discovering that an entire office of 25 desks, PC's et al had been wired through a single domestic lightswitch by the entrance door. Walk in, flick the switch and everything sprang to life with a nice loud -crack- from the swtich.
Turned out the previous tenant of the space was rather lazy and/or ignorant of basic electrical practice.
Convincing the area manager to sign off the rewiring job was difficult until there were a few "full office shutdowns" in the middle of the working day due to someone flicking the switch by mistake.
The day I believe M$ is interested in "green" issues is the day they stop developing bloated, resource-hogging messy software that requires increasingly large amounts of resources to run....the short lifespan of the wooden building doesn't feel like it squares with any kind of sustainable thought, either.
Apart from various fondleslab phones / lablets, the least repairable computing device I have ever encountered has been a 21.5" 2013 iMac. Even with several years experience of servicing various electronics from laptops to robots, the concept of having to rip the screen off to replace the 1TB spinning rust located within fills me with dread. Apple added an extra wheeze to the 21.5" model by embedding the display panel within the glass for some reason - so if you crack it, it's completely game over. If any form of repair had been considered in the first place, I'd have assumed it was designed by a sadist.
Ten or so years ago I used to think 4GB was enough for web browsing and a few documents. Now it's 8GB to sufficiently run an OS and smoothly access the increasingly bloated content out there on the web.
If I spend a lot of money on a computer I expect it to last me a fairly long time - so to future proof anything 16GB is a minimum given current upwards trends in terms of resource demands from OS's, software and the internet in general.
I'd argue 4gb on W10 / W11 isn't sufficient for a web browser, outlook and Teams running at the same time. My work wagon (W10) regularly consumes 4gb at idle without anything launched (mostly thanks to OneDrive syncing), and hovers at around 9-10 GB usage with outlook, teams and several Jira pages open.
Agreed. My currently employer doesn't care what my start and finish hours are so long as I do my 37,5 a week. Four years now of doing 07:00 to 15:00 and shaving at least half an hour off my travel times thanks to less traffic has been wonderful.
The job before that was firmly 9-5 with no exceptions ever. The company MD used to regularly sent out typed missives complaining that people were clocking out at dead on 17:00 and therefore "not working their contracted hours". People just clocked out 60 seconds later instead - I don't get how he thought it was going to make people do more work.
This reminds me all too well the time we had something similar that caused a full line stop in the factory for three days due to the sole incoming inspection test rig going down with faults on its internal networking. Everything was connected via network switches - internal on the rigs network chain.
Despite having no knowledge of the rig or what it did I somehow found myself getting dragged into helping diagnose the issues as the test rigs used apparently had similar tech and comms systems to the robots I repaired elsewhere in the company. Manglement were getting increasingly desperate (and loud) about the line stop. I arrived to a mess of wires on the test bench and two severely pissed off manufacturing engineers.
We eventually found a RJ45 cable connected into two of the internal ethernet switch's ports. The genius who built the rig had decided to not only make all the RJ45 cables the same colour, but another genius manufacturing line tech had grabbed a spare (identically coloured) cable from the cupboard to connect his laptop to "the internet". Upon finding he got no connection on his laptop, he just tucked both connectors neatly "out of the way" and didn't collate this with why his test station now doesn't work....
I left it to the manufacturing guys to explain this to their colleague (and likely apply a steel toecapped boot to his backside)
When my partner last visited, he borrowed my Ubuntu Cinnamon laptop a few times. He was navigating around its menus with no difficulty - we're talking about someone here who until last week didn't notice the media / volume /brightness keys (or the illuminated keyboard) on the laptop he's had for four years, bless him.
I'd already punted Win11 off that laptop, and my Win10 desktop is likely to get the same treatment next year, along with a separate small W11 SSD that will get used as and when needed (likely with most of the update features ripped out).
Sadly I will be stuck with W11 at work (although I'll be ensuring I only upgrade when they force me to do so....)
Among my collection of junk PC's for tinkering I have a somewhat elderly 2008 era HP 2250 laptop. Someone in their design teams back then decided to stuff a touchbar above the keyboard for the volume adjustment and a few hotkeys - it's borderline unusable thanks to no physical feedback.
You'd have thought after the Apple touch bar mess several years ago that designers would have given up on those ideas by now.
I guess at least Dell haven't popped the power key into the keyboard next to the Delete key like some other business laptops produced by HP and Dell recently...
Has elmo had one yet apart from SpaceX rockets?
I don't hold out much hope for any demo of the "robotaxi" after the cybertruck window debacle.
If it relies on the existing flaky Tesla self driving tech it'll likely behave in the same way as a johnnycab from Total Recall and try to run someone down.
Begun that journey myself with a custom-shop purchased desktop tower PC in 2021. It begun as a "whatever I can get that's available" spec sheet, and has started to get small upgrades here and there into something very capable. All the original parts got re-used and built into a cheapo second case as a tinkering rig once I felt confident enough to build something myself.
My firm did the same thing. The fun bit was everyone getting their P60 (end of tax year docs) from an external contractor no-one had ever heard of, with an incorrect company name appended to the email. The attachment? A macro-enabled MS word document! (.docm)
Naturally a large number of people reported it as dodgy to InfoSec, who did appreciate the response in a "we're really not impressed with Accounts" manner.
Accounts themselves sent a snotty email a day later complaining about all the enquiries they had received and telling us that we should have known the external accounting contractor existed.
This scenario also regularly happens to our CEO who types in a similar manner to really bad/obvious scam emails - lots of Times New Roman, bold fonts and weird formatting.
It'll have more corporate bullshit though. Like below courtesy of Gemini:
## Overly Corporate Job Titles for a Human-Fuelled Power Station
### Executive Roles
1. **Chief Combustion Coordinator**
2. **Vice President of Human Heat Harvesting**
3. **Director of Sweat Equity Management**
### Technical Roles
4. **Human Fuel Efficiency Engineer**
5. **Biometric Burnout Analyst**
6. **Ethical (or Unethical) Compliance Clown**
### Operational Roles
7. **Human Fuel Intake Scheduler**
8. **Power Generation Cheerleader**
9. **Waste Product Enthusiast**
10. **Public Relations Spin Doctor**
But in honesty, I do like how GNOME 47 worked on my little 2013 era 11" HP laptop with its hard to use tiny trackpad. Hit the meta key and type the name of what you want to open, and it works in a fairly slick way when driven 99% from keyboard commands. Looks good on a less-than-ideal-resolution TN screen too.
Just a shame in stock configuration you can't customise the panel as much as other distros.